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I think there is a narrative for Labour here. Agree stuff now we'll have to agree anyway, then we can fight harder for benefits at the edges- deals to be done on Euratom and other programmes, on paying in to the budget etc. Better than a panic the week before and concede everything. I think it has ...

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Tubby My main argument is about timing not the substance - I hope the announcement comes but at the moment it is far too problematic Corbyn: We are staying in the CU/SM Press: How will we do that? Corbyn: We will join EFTA then become part of the EEA and negotiate the link to the EU CU Press: Isn't ...

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Commit now, day "told you so" at leisure. And be able to say you can afford nice stuff. Be the party of business. I don't think that is a particularly strong argument but it is your view and that is fine It is definitely not strong enough to justify the consistent demands that we hear tha...

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Labour can talk about health but they can't pay for it. Solve Brexit, they can. That does still not answer the question why they have to define everything now? Do you think the argument have made will make any difference and offset the tirade against them? It is not for Labour to solve Brexit....th...

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It should never have happened, but given that it did the fact it had the highest voting participation of modern times can't just be wished away unfortunately. Agree. I think softest of soft Brexit is best. I'd back it sooner rather than later and take the hil, becaus point by point opposition can c...

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It should never have happened, but given that it did the fact it had the highest voting participation of modern times can't just be wished away unfortunately. and that is something people who are trying to keep us as close to the EU as they can need to remember. It is so conviently forgotten or dis...

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Just forget that A50 vote

It was irrelevant as the Tories rejected every single amendment

All you are about is attacking Corbyn by any means possible because he is taking Labour to the left

My default assumption is that Brexit is just another vessel for that. Your post content supports that

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1. The best deal for transition that can be obtained......Labour agree, Tories say No 2. No non-EU country is a member of the EU CU so this is a new construct that will need to be agreed. Labour have definitely not ruled this out 3. Again, for the upteenth time, you are not a member of the SM - you ...

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... this is difficult to do by argument alone - the same arguments you link to were the same used in the referendum and they were rejected. ... The problem is the Remain arguments are the same as the referendum and people just have stopped believing them. It is not that they are wrong it is just th...

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I think this is an argument about strategy rather than about principles but the problem I have is that, even in the short term, you leave yourself in the position of arguing in favour of a situation that will leave us worse off than we are now, and will actually create a political situation that ha...

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I think this is an argument about strategy rather than about principles but the problem I have is that, even in the short term, you leave yourself in the position of arguing in favour of a situation that will leave us worse off than we are now, and will actually create a political situation that ha...

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Good morning I see Mrs May has gone out of her way to antagonise the Europeans again - for no real reason except to placate the nutters in her own party I think this announcement should nail the lie that there is no difference between Labour and the Tories, seeing that Labour are committed to the EE...

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The parts that have architectural or historical merit would be restored and it would be a tourist attraction, I didn't mean it should be demolished. The building and its occupants are compromised by its nature and still will be after restoration sorry gilsey...my question was rhetorical- I never in...

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Blimey, Parliament has done something sensible. MPs have voted to press ahead with the renovation of parliament and to move out of the building properly while the work takes place. That means, at some point in the next decade, MPs will be sitting in a new chamber for several years, probably in Rich...

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I read this last week and just found it again about outsourcing. Don't agree with some of it but makes some interesting points. The collapse of Carillion is not an argument to end outsourcing https://www.ft.com/content/3ef53b22-fc47-11e7-9bfc-052cbba03425 The Carillion episode points first to manag...

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Talking of which... The Haringey row is about so much more than Labour in-fighting http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2018/01/31/the-haringey-row-is-about-so-much-more-than-labour-in-fighti Criticism of the project hasn't just come from Momentum, as some journalists and politicians would li...

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Rather a good joke at the start of this, and I agree about the NEC intervention https://capx.co/abuse-of-haringeys-leader-reveals-corbyns-labour-as-a-public-menace/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; No real view on the details of the Haringey scheme though as I haven't looked...

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Got a bit embroiled on Twitter this afternoon. But amidst the shouting, someone did point me at this very well written thread about the Labour Brexit strategy https://twitter.com/KevinEwert1/status/951614923976658951" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Proposition 4 is not plau...

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Yes laughing at those vacuous posts is, indeed, completely rational

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Good afternoon I am relatively ambivalent on 16 year olds voting - but I have no issues with it being strongly considered and the experience we have suggests it is not a problem in doing so We need increased participation of the younger generation and this may be one way to do it This should also be...

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So let's see, the Brexit department leaks a report that a Brexit minister describes as worthless. While he simultaneously tries to claim the tiny smidgens of good news concealed within to be true. Which along with being an obvious non sequitur begs questions about why we should ever listen to anyth...

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I think I may have been right about an account on here being a bot that reacts immediately to certain keywords!

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Some folk say Labour's front bench is useless. Well hot on the heels of Debbie Abrahams being part of the successful PIP campaign it looks like Angela Rayner has a modest victory Carillion apprentices will continue to be paid. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/apprenticeshiputurn_uk_5a70c9c4e4b...

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Well it seems that Keir Starmer totally eviscerated "Brexit minister" Steve Baker in the HoC earlier.

Baker is a slimy little dweeb......

that is not meant to be insulting by the way

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Can I suggest that you go an look at Mandelson's speech in the HoL today - not my favourite politician but it was a very measured and incisive intervention in the debate http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/a02ed460-1112-4806-aa75-ad88d9c86958" onclick="window.open(this.href);return fa...

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Oh, and a question on this impact statement - does anyone know what they used for the 'Norway' assessment? Norway of course is a party to the EEA agreement through EFTA which excludes certain sectors and also does not include the CU Have I missed this detail? Apologies for answering my own question...

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Oh, and a question on this impact statement - does anyone know what they used for the 'Norway' assessment? Norway of course is a party to the EEA agreement through EFTA which excludes certain sectors and also does not include the CU

Have I missed this detail?

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Sure, emotion often trumps reason. That's not a justification for giving up. I don't agree, and nor do you. Brexit is not going to be stopped. All that is left is apportioning blame to those responsible, and mocking those who have damaged the UK who should have known better. Why do you feel yoursel...

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The point is, as evidence grows of how disastrous a no deal "hard" Brexit would be even some in the Tory party will moderate their approach. They HAVE to. The bottom line is that reality-averse fanatics like Redwood and JRM are actually a minority even amongst Tory MPs. Sooner or later th...

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Indeed Paul, this is what I was thinking I will await the response with interest - clearly it will need to be predicated by the release of the report I do hope that those on the right do not start running to the press demanding a rapid change of policy as that is not going to happen. The important s...

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Part of my thinking just comes from my general miserablism, I know, but it's also based in the practicality of where we are. What happens if a large number of people change their minds? There has been little from May to suggest that she is minded to face down the extreme end of her party, I still w...

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My post, ' We just don't know ', made last night was meant as a joke, not a nasty one I agree tacking on an ' in my opinion ' to posts shouldn't be necessary A tactful, honest and genuine post speaks well enough for its author As you say it should not be necessary and normally you can tell from the...

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From last night Dynamite if true https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/the-governments-own-brexit-analysis-says-the-uk-will-be" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; the-governments-own-brexit-analysis-says-the-uk-will-be bit of a cliff-hanger there :lol: Everyone rational alre...

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Dynamite if true https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/the-governments-own-brexit-analysis-says-the-uk-will-be" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; the-governments-own-brexit-analysis-says-the-uk-will-be bit of a cliff-hanger there :lol: This could be a game-changer...wonder ...

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Here is a link that tries to explain it simply https://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/quantitative-easing.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I will accept that these unconventional policies can have complicated interactions that cannot be easily be written in a simplified for...

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I am not sure that it is unusual for party leaders to have a group of senior people around them to help them form strategy - in fact I would assume that they all do it to a lesser or greater extent Obviously, some of those outside this will be annoyed but I don't find anything in that article start...

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A cat has four legs, and so does a dog therefore a cat is a dog!

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I am not sure that it is unusual for party leaders to have a group of senior people around them to help them form strategy - in fact I would assume that they all do it to a lesser or greater extent Obviously, some of those outside this will be annoyed but I don't find anything in that article startl...

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Is there anyone serious advising McDonnell now on economics? Clearly the Council members are now considered anti-Corbynite Quislings, so who else has he recruited? On googling, this is all I found, which fills me with gloom about the future. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/john-mcdonnell-s-econo...

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Oh to be an expert of everything and be so arrogantly dismissive of people who do this as their profession There is every right to disagree - I take a dim view of a lot of economists myself as I think their predictive ability is pretty unimpressive - but they know a lot more than I do, and am sure t...

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I am a Taurus

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Morning and how does the way Labour voted on article 50 make any difference to where we are now? When we look back on this I am pretty certain that vote will not figure in the most critical events of the process - it could have done but the way the Tories voted meant it was always going to pass. An ...

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Is this going to be another Government transfer of public cash to private companies who were supposed to be providing a service that the Government should be doing? https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/jan/27/schools-academy-trusts-warn-pay-staffing-public-spending" onclick="window....

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Is this going to be another Government transfer of public cash to private companies who were supposed to be providing a service that the Government should be doing? https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/jan/27/schools-academy-trusts-warn-pay-staffing-public-spending" onclick="window.o...

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Oh how I wish I was so expert in every single subject to make such dismissive statements to the views of others, including 'experts'- I would have assumed such a person though would be able to make cogent arguments, understand simple concepts and be able to persuade others over their point of view A...

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All of this blog's posts on housing are worth reading. https://medium.com/@ian.mulheirn/fixing-our-broken-housing-crystal-ball-6d6405963e0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Many here won't like it, but the takeaway is that the increase in cost is caused by low interest rates,...

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Stephen Bush‏Verified account @stephenkb Follow Follow @stephenkb More Why are we so obsessed with the minority of Labour voters who backed Leave not the majority of Tory ones who did? https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/957009751027544065" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; G...

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Good afternoon I generally don't block - it is good to see how bizarre some people's posts are Can I just ask why we are continually revisiting the Labour leadership and the 'odds' of the next one? I know some people are psychologically unable to move on easily from disappointments but the repetitio...

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Is it really a problem of the 'left' or how certain parties have lost their identity and seem to be devoid of principle?

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More depressing polling, this time from Germany. https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-social-democrats-only-four-points-ahead-of-far-right-afd-in-poll/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; the retreat of the left looks Europe wide. Except in the UK where Labour leads in polls...

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