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- Mon 14 Jun, 2021 12:02 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 14th June 2021
- Replies: 14
- Views: 4453
Re: Monday 14th June 2021
There is maybe an argument for a short delay if the sole purpose is to get as many as possible fully vaccinated in the interim. After that, not convinced. And all that ghouls calling for social distancing and similar "forever" achieve is damaging people's mental health. Hi I can go with t...
- Mon 14 Jun, 2021 10:57 am
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 14th June 2021
- Replies: 14
- Views: 4453
Re: Monday 14th June 2021
Good morning I see one of your esteemed posters has suggested anyone who opposes the Government's continued shifting of goalposts and the consequent effects on well-being etc of millions of people based on a promise of 'only a month' when we know how incompetent the Government is a 'maladjusted twat...
- Tue 02 Mar, 2021 8:35 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
- Replies: 39
- Views: 9707
Re: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
I would say though that looking in from abroad the anglo-centric view should not hide from the fact that we have seen the same incompetence across the Western world I'm not talking about policy decisions and their outcomes. Scotland has followed similar policies and had roughly similar outcomes. I'...
- Tue 02 Mar, 2021 8:12 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
- Replies: 39
- Views: 9707
Re: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
Okay let us take these one by one - you have jumped on Sweden with the only comparison being against other countries relatively close....is that a valid comparison or is it just cherry-picked data to support your contention? Are the countries all comparable? Are there variables other than lockdown ...
- Tue 02 Mar, 2021 7:54 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
- Replies: 39
- Views: 9707
Re: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
Okay let us take these one by one - you have jumped on Sweden with the only comparison being against other countries relatively close....is that a valid comparison or is it just cherry-picked data to support your contention? Are the countries all comparable? Are there variables other than lockdown ...
- Tue 02 Mar, 2021 7:28 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
- Replies: 39
- Views: 9707
Re: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
I think we have a problem in the UK of not being able to think long term. Tory governments in particular are very guilty of this and covid has highlighted this problem in very much the same way it has highlighted many other societal problems in which the UK are proving to be world leaders. Essentia...
- Tue 02 Mar, 2021 7:10 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
- Replies: 39
- Views: 9707
Re: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
There are some on the left who have become "lock down everything forever" enthusiasts, yes. I am not one of them, and FWIW think a serious pursuit of "zero Covid" is impractical in a country like ours. But the "let the virus take its course" merchants repelled me last ...
- Tue 02 Mar, 2021 6:52 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
- Replies: 39
- Views: 9707
Re: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
And that's even without Johnson's blethering about "saving Christmas". To take but one example. Or insisting schools would open then closing them the next day. It took the buffoon 10 months and 100,000 dead to learn caution. Something many of his fellow travellers on the libertarian right...
- Tue 02 Mar, 2021 6:21 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
- Replies: 39
- Views: 9707
Re: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
Why Manaus as an example, why not Sweden? We are never allowed to mention Sweden.....many of the countries with strictest lockdown have terrible figures but then there is always a reason why. UK lockdown has been one of the strictest. Could it be lockdowns make no difference as is likely seeing no-...
- Tue 02 Mar, 2021 2:03 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
- Replies: 39
- Views: 9707
Re: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
Speaking about the UK only here, we have No functioning test and trace system No support for people to stay at home when they have symptoms, probably the biggest failure of all No support for schools to provide more space, better ventilation etc No sanction on employers failing to make workplaces s...
- Tue 02 Mar, 2021 7:33 am
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
- Replies: 39
- Views: 9707
Re: Tuesday 2nd March 2021
Good morning The 'Great Barrington Declaration' that I was asked if I had signed was actually put together by some pretty eminent scientists, but because their view goes against what has become the 'mainstream' it is seen as some evil conspiracy The idea of the declaration, of course, was that socie...
- Mon 01 Mar, 2021 11:09 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 1st March 2021
- Replies: 28
- Views: 7297
Re: Monday 1st March 2021
your ad hominem attacks are pretty unpleasant If you can provide me with an example of one I'd be happy to apologise. Attacking Heneghan and Gupta like that The may/may not be wrong but are they any more wrong than the proponents of lockdown who produce no evidence for their assertions? If we go ba...
- Mon 01 Mar, 2021 11:01 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 1st March 2021
- Replies: 28
- Views: 7297
Re: Monday 1st March 2021
A lot of talk about suppressing the views of scientists on here How about the same suppression of those who are consistently undermining the immunity and vaccine situation Community immunity comes from a mixture of non-susceptibility, immunity from previous encounter and vaccine. Each have a role to...
- Mon 01 Mar, 2021 10:43 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 1st March 2021
- Replies: 28
- Views: 7297
Re: Monday 1st March 2021
We don't appear to hear quite so much of either Gupta or Heneghan these days - I do wonder why that might be? Shane same cannot be said about Sridhar with her comparisons with measles or others talking about anally swabbing children or undermining vaccines Heneghan and Guptas views are based on sou...
- Mon 01 Mar, 2021 10:39 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 1st March 2021
- Replies: 28
- Views: 7297
Re: Monday 1st March 2021
So you have changed the subject and your ad hominem attacks are pretty unpleasant and I would suggest you go and look at the failures across the whole scientific community not just those people There is some truth in what they say but shows how dangerous it is to make predictions and if inclined I c...
- Mon 01 Mar, 2021 9:27 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 1st March 2021
- Replies: 28
- Views: 7297
Re: Monday 1st March 2021
This is typical of much of what I se in the liberal press and starts from the assumption lockdown works - an extreme policy requires absolutely robust data and that is most certainly not the case here. Meh. The infection rate drops during lockdowns and rises when they're lifted. That's incontrovert...
- Mon 01 Mar, 2021 9:05 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 1st March 2021
- Replies: 28
- Views: 7297
Re: Monday 1st March 2021
@howsillyofme1 I feel like we must have read completely different articles. What I liked about the article is the way it looked at people's experiences of the pandemic and how it's impacted people's lives and jobs. We have had very little in domestic media about what's actually happening, particula...
- Mon 01 Mar, 2021 8:16 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 1st March 2021
- Replies: 28
- Views: 7297
Re: Monday 1st March 2021
if we see Sweden as almost being a control (and it is not that great because of the issues on comparing data across countries but it is the best we have) Looking at overall excess deaths and not just Covid then Sweden does not seem to be a particularly good example of a country that did not enter a ...
- Mon 01 Mar, 2021 7:13 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 1st March 2021
- Replies: 28
- Views: 7297
Re: Monday 1st March 2021
For example, a very well respected summary from the EU on facemasks Confirms what I have seen from reading the evidence in the trials - poor quality, no clear conclusions and needs a lot more work but you wouldn't know it from what you read https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/using-face-...
- Mon 01 Mar, 2021 7:00 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 1st March 2021
- Replies: 28
- Views: 7297
Re: Monday 1st March 2021
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/03/01/world/europe/uk-covid-pandemic.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes Behind the Lines of Britain’s Covid War I found this article in the New York Times more informative and in depth than anything I've read in the British press lately. personally I found i...
- Mon 04 Jan, 2021 5:17 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 4 January 2021
- Replies: 38
- Views: 8096
Re: Monday 4 January 2021
the consequent effect on or ability to fund healthcare Spare us that one, please. There is no consequent effect. The govt can fund healthcare, and decent social security benefits, if it wants to, regardless of the state of our economy, because those things improve the health of the population and t...
- Mon 04 Jan, 2021 4:09 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 4 January 2021
- Replies: 38
- Views: 8096
Re: Monday 4 January 2021
@howsillyofme1 I hear what you're saying, and what you've said before. Academics like Gurdasani, Devi Sridhar is another, calling for zero covid are saying that should be our aim. They're not saying it is or isn't entirely achievable in our particular circumstances, just that any other objective is...
- Mon 04 Jan, 2021 3:03 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 4 January 2021
- Replies: 38
- Views: 8096
Re: Monday 4 January 2021
@howsillyofme1 Sorry to hear you've experienced personal abuse on forums just for wanting a discussion. Personally I've been interested in the idea of covid spreading in clusters rather than more uniformly, with some people more likely to spread it than others. The experience in Japan, in particula...
- Mon 04 Jan, 2021 1:19 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Monday 4 January 2021
- Replies: 38
- Views: 8096
Re: Monday 4 January 2021
Good morning. Deepti Gurdasani's response to the ghastly McVey, very good thread. https://twitter.com/dgurdasani1/status/1346026656830525440" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Deepti Gurdasani @dgurdasani1 Replying to @dgurdasani1 UK policy for COVID-19 has been an utter failu...
- Fri 18 Sep, 2020 2:33 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Friday 18th September 2020
- Replies: 32
- Views: 8129
Re: Friday 18th September 2020
Good afternoon Interesting to see a big deal being lade of false positives now that the Government has gone for this ridiculous mass testing idea but actually this is a problem already and has been pointed out for a long time with the current testing regime at low prevalence. We could be picking up ...
- Sun 30 Aug, 2020 2:42 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Bank Holiday Weekend 29th/30th/31st August 2020
- Replies: 67
- Views: 11991
Re: Bank Holiday Weekend 29th/30th/31st August 2020
Totally different use case....look at the studiesfrog222 wrote:Perhaps one of the reasons some people are a bit skeptical about wearing masks is that there is no evidence that they work -
That'll save the hospitals $billions then !
- Sun 30 Aug, 2020 12:46 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Bank Holiday Weekend 29th/30th/31st August 2020
- Replies: 67
- Views: 11991
Re: Bank Holiday Weekend 29th/30th/31st August 2020
Given that we all accept that the current economic model (a cultural construct rather than something determined by natural law) of constant growth is unsustainable, now might be a good time to be coming up with some more viable economic models for the world as it is now. Including supporting busine...
- Sun 30 Aug, 2020 9:35 am
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Bank Holiday Weekend 29th/30th/31st August 2020
- Replies: 67
- Views: 11991
Re: Bank Holiday Weekend 29th/30th/31st August 2020
Good morning Perhaps one of the reasons some people are a bit skeptical about wearing masks is that there is no evidence that they work - doesn't mean people shouldn't wear them but the idea that there is a incontrovertible number of studies is not correct - if you read the studies they are often he...
- Fri 28 Aug, 2020 5:43 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Friday 28th August 2020
- Replies: 35
- Views: 6223
Re: Friday 28th August 2020
Thousands of people are daily testing positive with COVID-19. Where'd they get tested? Under what circumstances? What's their current health status? Are they being treated effectively at home? Or the hospital? Or in care homes? Are they very ill? Are they mildly ill? That information isn't availabl...
- Sun 16 Aug, 2020 3:31 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Saturday 15th & Sunday 16th August 2020
- Replies: 73
- Views: 17412
Re: Saturday 15th & Sunday 16th August 2020
Doesn't the actual piece say that, though? (haven't read it myself, but that is what others have said) I agreed that opening up many schools in the previous few months was too soon, certainly the way the government went about it. But the aim always had to be restarting things in September, if that ...
- Sun 16 Aug, 2020 1:46 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Saturday 15th & Sunday 16th August 2020
- Replies: 73
- Views: 17412
Re: Saturday 15th & Sunday 16th August 2020
I think basic calculus was always part of O level. But I do remember shaded areas of curves that I was supposed to work out using some kind of arcane theorem . (cJA bold) The class I studied this topic in was called Geometry. I did basic calculus at O Level - integration under the line being one of...
- Sun 16 Aug, 2020 1:22 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Saturday 15th & Sunday 16th August 2020
- Replies: 73
- Views: 17412
Re: Saturday 15th & Sunday 16th August 2020
Doesn't the actual piece say that, though? (haven't read it myself, but that is what others have said) I agreed that opening up many schools in the previous few months was too soon, certainly the way the government went about it. But the aim always had to be restarting things in September, if that ...
- Sun 16 Aug, 2020 1:22 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Saturday 15th & Sunday 16th August 2020
- Replies: 73
- Views: 17412
Re: Saturday 15th & Sunday 16th August 2020
Well.......do you think that if Corbyn was still leader (or indeed PM) he would be saying kids should stay away from school indefinitely? And this really is an instance where the headline doesn't tell the whole story. I would expect him to at least try to give the impression that he cares about the...
- Sun 16 Aug, 2020 12:17 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Saturday 15th & Sunday 16th August 2020
- Replies: 73
- Views: 17412
Re: Saturday 15th & Sunday 16th August 2020
Whitehall will be delighted if reform is limited to the splitting of PHE. As Mr Davies noted, it was the Cameron government that “bundled” it up with the Health Protection Agency (HPA) in 2012, against the advice of civil servants. And let me guess........that was at least partly a cost saving meas...
- Sun 16 Aug, 2020 12:14 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Saturday 15th & Sunday 16th August 2020
- Replies: 73
- Views: 17412
Re: Saturday 15th & Sunday 16th August 2020
Howdy all Hope everyone muddling through - seems to be about the best thing we can do at the moment Just another of my witters about a couple of subjects - disclaimer my opinions only backed up by prejudice, bias and little expertises not to be taken too seriously - any debate engendered is welcome ...
- Tue 11 Aug, 2020 11:34 am
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Tuesday 11th August 2020
- Replies: 43
- Views: 9641
Re: Tuesday 11th August 2020
Keir Starmer's approach is certainly different and is more about outcomes than methods. Around coronavirus it appears to be to agree with Johnson's aims (Johnson is desperate to accuse Labour of failing to support the government on fighting it), wait for the evidence to come in and then confront Jo...
- Sun 02 Aug, 2020 10:15 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Saturday, 1st August and Sunday, 2nd August 2020
- Replies: 47
- Views: 14786
Re: Saturday, 1st August and Sunday, 2nd August 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=211&v=ojYiimi43vM&feature=emb_logo what is the point of having two people who just agree with one another and make statements without recourse to any data but express opinions? The CEBM are looking at the data - look at the case numbers and compar...
- Wed 22 Jul, 2020 2:51 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Wednesday 22 July 2020
- Replies: 44
- Views: 11297
Re: Wednesday 22 July 2020
Yes, the party's own statement said it wasn't pre-judging anything else by its apology over this. I don't believe them, sorry How can you give a pay out to a 'whistleblower' for an account of the story that is significantly undermined with documentary evidence? Surely to settle a defamation action ...
- Wed 22 Jul, 2020 2:43 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Wednesday 22 July 2020
- Replies: 44
- Views: 11297
Re: Wednesday 22 July 2020
The two things are not actually the same? Didn't they both have the same objective, ie burying Corbyn in shit? Happy to be corrected. I think AK was responding to this. I agree with AK. Howell is disingenuous. Steve Howell @FromSteveHowell Keir Starmer just threw the Labour party into an even deepe...
- Wed 22 Jul, 2020 1:52 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Wednesday 22 July 2020
- Replies: 44
- Views: 11297
Re: Wednesday 22 July 2020
nowt as strange as folkgilsey wrote:'Should be 20% ahead in the polls'
These 'journalists' are supporting Starmer, not Labour.
They don't see it as the same thing, neither do many of the public if you go by the polls. One of Starmer's challenges is to change that.
- Wed 22 Jul, 2020 1:39 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Wednesday 22 July 2020
- Replies: 44
- Views: 11297
Re: Wednesday 22 July 2020
Interesting to see on twitter the number of media centrists tweeting examples refuting Johnson's claims about Starmer Don't remember them doing th same with lies about Corbyn - in fact they were the ones often making the false accusations How is Labour 10% behind and actually performing worse than o...
- Wed 22 Jul, 2020 1:35 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Wednesday 22 July 2020
- Replies: 44
- Views: 11297
Re: Wednesday 22 July 2020
yes you are right!AnatolyKasparov wrote:The media is key to so much else, however.
- Wed 22 Jul, 2020 1:19 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Wednesday 22 July 2020
- Replies: 44
- Views: 11297
Re: Wednesday 22 July 2020
it is not just the media thoughAnatolyKasparov wrote:Not disagreeing about how bad the media is!
- Wed 22 Jul, 2020 12:58 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Wednesday 22 July 2020
- Replies: 44
- Views: 11297
Re: Wednesday 22 July 2020
Though I remain optimistic about the scientific progress if that helps Yes, that remains a cause for optimism. At a time when we certainly need some. there is very little scientific about most of the discussions in the media......it is has become anti-science from both sides and is now almost prett...
- Wed 22 Jul, 2020 12:55 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Wednesday 22 July 2020
- Replies: 44
- Views: 11297
Re: Wednesday 22 July 2020
Labour pays out six-figure sum and apologises in antisemitism row https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/22/labour-pays-out-six-figure-sum-and-apologises-in-antisemitism-row" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; The Labour party has apologised “unreservedly” and paid out a...
- Thu 16 Jul, 2020 8:24 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Thursday 16th July 2020
- Replies: 23
- Views: 6915
Re: Thursday 16th July 2020
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- Thu 16 Jul, 2020 8:16 am
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Thursday 16th July 2020
- Replies: 23
- Views: 6915
Re: Thursday 16th July 2020
Morning all Just wanted to get in early and thank Sky for the really nice message last week and to offer my apologies for throwing my toys out of the pram a bit - an unpleasant character trait of mine I am afraid On the substantive point about immune system I think we should be careful in just think...
- Wed 15 Jul, 2020 6:09 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Wednesday 15th July 2020
- Replies: 55
- Views: 13863
Re: Wednesday 15th July 2020
Labour set to apologise to antisemitism whistleblowers https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/15/labour-to-apologise-to-antisemitism-whistleblowers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Labour is poised to make a formal apology to antisemitism whistleblowers as part of a s...
- Wed 15 Jul, 2020 4:06 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Wednesday 15th July 2020
- Replies: 55
- Views: 13863
Re: Wednesday 15th July 2020
Good afternoon Hope all are well - just more musings after turning things around in my head and post on here to get other views. I am not necessarily expressing things as more than that although will let you know my opinions. We had a discussion about O'Brien yesterday and his conflation of the anti...
- Tue 14 Jul, 2020 5:08 pm
- Forum: The Daily Politics
- Topic: Tuesday 14th July 2020
- Replies: 61
- Views: 16317
Re: Tuesday 14th July 2020
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