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by tinyclanger2
Wed 22 Oct, 2014 7:01 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 22nd October 2014
Replies: 181
Views: 74249

Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

my kind of badgers (not that there are any other kind)

edited to add other and avoid being incomprehensible
by tinyclanger2
Wed 22 Oct, 2014 5:53 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 22nd October 2014
Replies: 181
Views: 74249

Re: Wednesday 22nd October 2014

As Richard Osman would say: "Hiya" http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/support-for-eu-membership-at-highest-level-for-23-years--eyRrppCdLg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; particularly special pic of his Farageship and the happy news that even Tories on balance wa...
by tinyclanger2
Fri 17 Oct, 2014 6:09 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 17th October
Replies: 106
Views: 48729

Re: Friday 17th October

obm wrote:"why use only one word when you could use a perfectly good seventeen-adjective long stream of invective instead?"
Agreed. And I have younger people's eye to prove it.

Though not literally. :shock: Obviously.
by tinyclanger2
Fri 17 Oct, 2014 5:53 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 17th October
Replies: 106
Views: 48729

Re: Friday 17th October

obm wrote:a long-winded-gobshite
Have reached a point where I don't mind that I make younger people's eyes glaze over. Indeed I fear I find it actively entertaining.
by tinyclanger2
Fri 17 Oct, 2014 5:51 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 17th October
Replies: 106
Views: 48729

Re: Friday 17th October

mr remarx wrote:Or, you could post it here without a character limit and then leave a link at the Graun, he said sweetly.
That was indeed very very sweet.
by tinyclanger2
Fri 17 Oct, 2014 12:52 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 17th October
Replies: 106
Views: 48729

Re: Friday 17th October

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/17/ipcc-corrects-claim-suggesting-climate-change-would-be-good-for-the-economy slightly scary goings on behind the scenes at the ipcc...? Er... what?? Any chance of a precis, my Guardian boycott will not allow me to click Sorry. The short story is tha...
by tinyclanger2
Fri 17 Oct, 2014 12:34 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 17th October
Replies: 106
Views: 48729

Re: Friday 17th October

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... he-economy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

slightly scary goings on behind the scenes at the ipcc...?
by tinyclanger2
Thu 16 Oct, 2014 9:21 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 16th October 2014
Replies: 151
Views: 83103

Re: Thursday 16th October 2014

I have two business ideas; the first is to open a second hand bookshop, change my name to Bernard and spend my days drinking red wine & being rude to customers;
That's brilliant. Let us know if you're ever looking for staff.
by tinyclanger2
Thu 16 Oct, 2014 6:14 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 16th October 2014
Replies: 151
Views: 83103

Re: Thursday 16th October 2014

Am continuing to explore the paradox of the "Europe"-hating southwest farmer. Have discovered southwestfarmer.co.uk, but given: http://www.southwestfarmer.co.uk/news/national/news/11454766.Lost_EU_subsidies__devastating_/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; "Many ...
by tinyclanger2
Thu 16 Oct, 2014 5:46 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 16th October 2014
Replies: 151
Views: 83103

Re: Thursday 16th October 2014

PorFavor wrote: Really just a touch of (possibly misplaced) levity
I often misplace levity.

Perhaps that's why I'm such a miserable get. :shock:
by tinyclanger2
Thu 16 Oct, 2014 5:39 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 16th October 2014
Replies: 151
Views: 83103

Re: Thursday 16th October 2014

Another stat from the polling is that Labour are polling higher in the marginal seats than what is being recorded nationally, could be a crumb of comfort that? Jacob Rees-Twat say UKIP and the Tories are basically the same, he does like to state the obvious doesn't he? http://www.yorkshirepost.co.u...
by tinyclanger2
Sun 12 Oct, 2014 7:18 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Because I'm both ignorant and lazy, can anyone explain the hatred the SW (farmers) have for Europe (given the CAP)?

Ta.
by tinyclanger2
Sun 12 Oct, 2014 5:52 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/o ... -google-u2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pope Bono, in his stupid glasses, aping Alex Salmond on corporation tax.
by tinyclanger2
Sun 12 Oct, 2014 1:09 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

With his track record, she may have got to the point of wondering where she went right.
by tinyclanger2
Sun 12 Oct, 2014 1:04 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

dfhodges wrote:(in fact I think he looks weird).
Indeed, the man has panda eyes and a weird mouth. And it's about time he realised that no-one on this planet thinks pandas are cute. Moreover, David Cameron is completely normal-looking, and he NEVER makes one involuntarily feel an urge to punch him in head.
by tinyclanger2
Sun 12 Oct, 2014 12:44 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

I hardly dare say it :shock: but I'd rather not have an EU referendum. I don't trust us currently not to make a monumental error. Not to mention am still recovering from the last such event.
by tinyclanger2
Sun 12 Oct, 2014 12:36 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Good morning. @ LadyCentauria Shattered scours here in the sunny south. My scours are shattered at the moment. Apologies to everyone I've been (unintentionally) winding up (even the people I'm agreeing with). I seem to be going through some kind of earnestness mania. Like all things it will pass.
by tinyclanger2
Sun 12 Oct, 2014 12:03 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

refitman wrote:
Alex Andreou retweeted
Michael Robb ‏@michaelrobb87 Oct 10

UKIP have the same colours as the Standing at the Back Dressed Stupidly & Looking Stupid Party from Blackadder.
Image
That's fantastic.
by tinyclanger2
Sun 12 Oct, 2014 11:49 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

I'm with you on food and GM. And I recall from a conference from something like 1984, a PhD student earnestly talking about her contribution to the world by virtue of her identifying some gene or another. She was COMPLETELY floored when someone in the audience raised the issue of famine being large...
by tinyclanger2
Sun 12 Oct, 2014 11:43 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

I'm with you on food and GM. And I recall from a conference from something like 1984, a PhD student earnestly talking about her contribution to the world by virtue of her identifying some gene or another. She was COMPLETELY floored when someone in the audience raised the issue of famine being large...
by tinyclanger2
Sun 12 Oct, 2014 11:43 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

I'm with you on food and GM. And I recall from a conference from something like 1984, a PhD student earnestly talking about her contribution to the world by virtue of her identifying some gene or another. She was COMPLETELY floored when someone in the audience raised the issue of famine being large...
by tinyclanger2
Sun 12 Oct, 2014 10:46 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

I'm with you on food and GM. And I recall from a conference from something like 1984, a PhD student earnestly talking about her contribution to the world by virtue of her identifying some gene or another. She was COMPLETELY floored when someone in the audience raised the issue of famine being largel...
by tinyclanger2
Sun 12 Oct, 2014 8:23 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

HSoM wrote:It is sad that we would see Labour and the Greens taking votes of each other - as was mentioned yesterday, a Green-Red would be an attractive prospect - shame we have FPTP
Yes I would like to see the Greens and Labour collaborating to ensure a win at this stage.
by tinyclanger2
Sun 12 Oct, 2014 6:07 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Latest YouGov / Sunday Times results 10th Oct -
Con 32%,
Lab 34%,
LD 9%,
UKIP 16%;
APP -22

Remains uncomfortably close.
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 11:43 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/10/10/6-m ... next-year/

Wearable device penetration will more than double
:shock:
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 11:34 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

My last word on this: With Labour, anyone working i n a public sector job coming face-to-face with the public will be required to speak English. Is perfectly reasonable and I have no issue with it. But that is not what the piece says, and thus his message as it stands in the Observer piece is proble...
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 11:14 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Well there's my point. Integration. It's authoritarian. There are more than 300 languages spoken in London - that's "British society". We're multicultural and multilingual. Some jobs - high or low level - may not need English as a basic requirement.
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 11:06 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Thank you RS. And for the general record, my own view would be that if they were going to work in public services then THEY WOULD NEED TO!

Sorry. Just got a bit frustrated with that recurring theme there given that it didn't relate to what I'd read. Am now recovered. Apologies to all.
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 10:55 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Anybody working in the UK should be required to speak and write English to an acceptable basic level. Say they're a tour guide in London doing tours exclusively for Japanese visitors which they can do without ever having to speak English. Do they, necessarily, need to speak and write in English to ...
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 10:51 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Jeez - why is everyone suddenly going on about working in public services? The piece I linked to does not mention public services in this respect. :wall:
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 10:48 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

There is a difference between needing a particular language to do a particular job and needing a language simply to live in a country. One is a recruitment issue, the other is a policy issue. I have no problem with the former; I have a problem with the latter. I'm not saying it's ideal, not to speak...
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 10:38 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Sorry but he lost me here. Sounds a lot like assimilation. And of course there isn't a single Brit living abroad who doesn't speak their local language. Think of it like this On a recent trip to casualty the EU doctor spoke very little English (or perhaps he did but was to tired to use it) he "...
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 10:36 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Not sure why a person looking to live here should not be expected to learn the language of the country they wish to live in, to me its a no brainer. But if they don't want to, and they don't need to should they be forced to? I don't think so. Sorry, but if they want to work in public services then ...
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 10:18 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

AngryAsWell wrote:
Not sure why a person looking to live here should not be expected to learn the language of the country they wish to live in, to me its a no brainer.
But if they don't want to, and they don't need to should they be forced to? I don't think so.
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 10:06 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

There's just no need for it. He was doing fine up until then.
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 10:05 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

But Miliband doesn't say "with reforms to ensure those who come here to work in the public service speak English". Surely that's just a basic recruitment issue.
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 9:52 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Still I like that he's not cowtowing to the UKIP "narrative".
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 9:47 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

with reforms to ensure those who come here speak English http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/11/ed-miliband-labour-hope-for-britains-future?CMP=twt_gu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Sorry but he lost me here. Sounds a lot like assimilation. And of course ther...
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 7:39 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

rebeccariots2 wrote:
joncraigSKY ‏@joncraig 42m42 minutes ago
I hear "past episodes in my personal life" Brooks Newmark refers to in letter to PM re quitting as MP will be revealed in Sun on Sunday
Do we really need to know any more?
Thomas the Tank Engine pyjamas? :shock:
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 4:29 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

tinyclanger2 wrote:I get that all people have these arguments all the time. It's exhausting, but it's necessary. I'm an idealistic pragmatist. What can I say.
Or perhaps a pragmatic idealist. Either way I can think about things and still be strategically inclined.
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 4:27 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

I get that all people have these arguments all the time. It's exhausting, but it's necessary. I'm an idealistic pragmatist. What can I say.
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 4:20 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

For the record, if we had proportional representation, I would certainly consider voting green. But old "I agree with kingmaker Nick B'stard" put paid to that quite unequivocally didn't he.
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 3:46 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Let me put it another way. I think Labour have a long way to go before I think they're up to much really. But in the face of a potential Tory/UKIP coalition I think a bit of pragmatism (and thus not splitting of the vote) from the non-right might be sensible to buy ourselves some time. Then we need ...
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 3:37 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Off the top of my head, Renationalisation of energy, utilities, transport, health, education and policing/prison services Higher corporate tax rates. Land value tax rebanding of Council Tax. HS2 Trident Foriegn Policy Electoral reform WCA/ATOS/UNUM Trade Unionism. And that's without even going into...
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 3:31 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

PS - my position is not personal. It's a manifestation of the frustration I feel about the left doing the right's work by splitting itself up. I've mentioned it before - and it comes from different but related first hand experience (environmental movement) - so nothing new. Sorry to bring it up real...
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 3:18 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Is there some reason why "the Greens" can't work from within the Labour party? Off the top of my head, Renationalisation of energy, utilities, transport, health, education and policing/prison services Higher corporate tax rates. Land value tax rebanding of Council Tax. HS2 Trident Foriegn...
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 2:47 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

Is there some reason why "the Greens" can't work from within the Labour party?
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 1:17 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

PorFavor wrote:
Edited to amend appalling sentence structure and generally bad English.
Excellent. Always cheers me up.
by tinyclanger2
Sat 11 Oct, 2014 11:36 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014
Replies: 304
Views: 89127

Re: Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th October 2014

I imagine our predominantly right-wing press is at the heart of much of it. The question is how do we deal with that?