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re the Labour public spending thing - I noticed that Toby Young touched on this in his "Why I'm a Conservative" piece he's just written for some new (as if we really needed another) thinktank/right wing grouping. http://con4lib.com/toby-young-why-i-am-a-conservative/" onclick="w...

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George Osborne, the chancellor, is still in China. As the Press Association reports, he has announced that Britain is giving £3m to a Premier League scheme to train a new generation of football stars in the country. Osborne said the funding, which will pay to train 5,000 coaches in the country, wou...

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Kate Butler @Kate_Butler Crowdsourcing the Qs for PMQs might be a stroke of genius y'know. PM sneers, jeers and evasions now directed at the electorate? We'll see! Why isn't Mrs Trellis asking about the fall in unemployment figures? #Brexit ‏@DbAshby 5 mins5 minutes ago #Brexit retweeted Kate Butle...

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Morning all. On tenterhooks, but I think it'll be a cakewalk for Corbyn. Hope all decide to debate policy civilly and within party walls rather than throwing their toys out of the pram.

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But look at what he actually said. He called Isis 'brutal', he doesn't condone their actions. & the remarks are from last year, a lot of the Isis violence-porn pics and reports the media have been publishing, seemingly more to titillate or provoke amygdala type responses than anything else, [ju...

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But look at what he actually said. He called Isis 'brutal', he doesn't condone their actions. & the remarks are from last year, a lot of the Isis violence-porn pics and reports the media have been publishing, seemingly more to titillate or provoke amygdala type responses than anything else, [ju...

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I'm getting pretty tired of this "guilt by association" being levelled at Corbyn. Look at this meeting between an obscenely wealthy, out of touch autocratic despot and . . . oh, fill in your own punchline http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/13/article-2086288-0F72A9D900000578-537_634x44...

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I've bought the odd copy of Socialist Worker in the past. Pre CCTV days, though, so I might be safe. I joined up in order to get on a Coach going to march against the Criminal Justice Bill back in the '90s. I had a shiny gold card with a red fist on it and everything. I think that was the first occ...

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I can find that he was, in the distant past, a member of the Communist party, he left the SWP in 2007. My husband sold Socialist Worker at Turnpike Lane tube station before we were married in the mid 70's. Should he have been banned from joining the Labour party a couple of years ago, 40 years late...

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yahyah wrote:That's part of why I voted Corbyn. I want someone who will point that out.

Why is it we can have a right wing government that is selling off all and sundry and we get fed the notion that Cameron is middle ground ?

But . . . but he eats Pringles . . .

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Has anyone had the Labour List survey about releasing the voting figures after the election? Apparently Labour has decided not to publish the breakdown of the vote. Credit to Liz Kendall, who has asked for this to be looked into. It would be interesting to know - whoever wins - which groups (long-t...

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Isabel Hardman ‏@IsabelHardman 10m10 minutes ago Government departments preparing their staff for spending review job losses, Coffee House has learned http://specc.ie/1IWKwmG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Learned? This has been around for ages. I've been looking around fo...

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Y'know, it somewhat sticks in my craw that the Guardian comes out for Yvette Cooper whilst hawking shirts saying things like: "Labour: I prefer their earlier work," and quoting Attlee and Bevan. You can't have your cake and eat it, Guaardvarks.

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Can anybody confirm or deny the line casually quoted in the Guardian that Corbyn is in favour of withdrawing from NATO? I'd be interested in this too. My understanding up to this point had been he'd thought that expansion of NATO with Poland, considering Ukraine etc had been a mistake. Ditto allowi...

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Morning all, Just returned from mini break to Cornwall to find three leaflets on my door - Kendall didn't even bother to send a mailshot. For some reason, I should be swayed by the fact that David Walliams is supporting Andy Burnham. Disappointed to see Yvette Cooper trying the desperate fingertips ...

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Liz Kendall shows her red side http://leftfootforward.org/2015/07/liz-kendall-shows-her-red-side/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Kendall implies that as prime minister she would mandate elected worker representation on company boards As someone who's already a member of a ...

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Being serious, I'd find this hard, and I think the majority of the PLP would. His views on Russia, Kosovo, Israel and so on are not things I can support. Most MPs will keep their heads down I expect until the time comes for his removal. He'll inevitably say or do something, probably in relation to ...

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I tend to agree with ephemerid that opinion has been fairly well spread here among most of the candidates - there are a handful of people who prefer Corbyn, and we are vocal, but, overall, I've felt that the split here was far more balanced. Anyway, I posted this over at the other place, because I ...

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Too much negativity from a lot of folks. Drama queens full of doom and gloom - we should be grasping hope ! The idea that a Corbyn win will herald the four horsemen of the Apocalypse is nonsense. Our doom and gloom should be reserved for thoughts about the current government, who possibly do herald...

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Y'know, I can sum up my reasons for voting Corbyn in one name: Toby Young. If you didn't listen to it on Saturday, please pull out Any Questions and listen to Toby's diatribe on Corbyn. If you listened to him, you'd think Corbyn was going to open Gulags, set up the Khmer Rouge and start Collectivisa...

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In other news, The Spectator commissions Jonathan King to write a blog entitled Edward Heath wasn’t gay. Trust me, I tried – and failed – to seduce him http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/08/edward-heath-wasnt-gay-trust-me-i-tried-and-failed-to-seduce-him/ And what red-blooded homosexual ...

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If, as was suggested in the media, the prospect of an SNP-backed Labour government cost the Labour Party votes, is this a wise move? Labour leadership frontrunner Jeremy Corbyn has signalled he would be willing to make a pact with the SNP to become prime minister. http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/je...

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Well, having seen Burnham's pitch it looks as if he's just the next regeneration of the later, more desperate determined, Milliband. I've not seen a policy of his that wouldn't have sat with the pessimistic Milliband vision of "Like them, but a bit better," Although, to be fair, he was les...

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And due to my amazing looking skills, here it is.

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Fun Fact: For all that Burnham is positioning himself as working class Scouser in a tie, a quick comparison of his record V Corbyn against Cooper's record V Corbyn indicates that actually she's closer to Corbyn in terms of how they vote in the HoC. I've downloaded their voting records from the Publi...

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Overall its a fairly decent package from Burnham, even if not earth shattering. I see that some in the MSM are now trying to push Cooper as the "stop Jezza" candidate. What has she come out with in comparison? I was going to ask the same thing - apart from being backed by Johnson, saying ...

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So, I went to a meeting of new Labour members the other night - a bit frustrating as we wanted to have a good debate about purity vs pragmatism, but the agenda of the organisers obviously had a brief to look at these as focus groups and wanted us to come up with marketable strategies for growth. How...

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Cameron to boost HoL because its not representative of the country? Presumably hell be looking for SNP Lords, then. Looking at the numbers, it seems as if the Tory majority is about equal in both houses, its just the Lib Dems that would need to be kicked out. Surely the parliamentary committee can'...

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Cameron to boost HoL because its not representative of the country? Presumably hell be looking for SNP Lords, then. Looking at the numbers, it seems as if the Tory majority is about equal in both houses, its just the Lib Dems that would need to be kicked out. Surely the parliamentary committee can't...

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What depresses me about the election is that it's being run as an election at all. I'm constantly being asked for 'donations' to the various leader or deputy leader's campaigns, as if plutocracy should determine who is the leader of the labour party - Kinnock "The Labour Party!" /Kinnock A...

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Afternoon, all. I've kept a low profile since the election - not only has it been A Funny Few Months, but also The Other Place was over-run with gloating and nonsense. Also, I know my own shouting from and about the left has not always been the same as consensus-building . I'll mouth off about Kend...

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In my new found spirit of co-operation, tolerance and attempts to understand Tories, I'll be avoiding ad hominem attacks. However, I couldn't resist this one. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3090172/No-sex-Im-40-New-research-claims-womens-libido-fizzles-41-right-says-Sarah-Vine-just-chore....

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Quotes from Chukka (1) http://www.labourbisteam.org.uk/pro-worker-pro-business---chuka-umunna-speech-to-tuc-congress I am a proud trade union member. Out of choice and out of conviction. I don’t come from a family with a history of labour trade union activism. The reason my entrepreneur father suppo...

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Option 4: Edit the posts to make them say "I have never satisfied anyone in bed and my parents are ashamed of me."

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So glad that the modern Haven cuisine is growing in popularity so much that you've used the lip-licking smiley, @ Swarthlander . That is what :P means, isn't it? :grin: It is now. :lol: There was a sitcom on TV (I can't remember which one and it's driving me crazy) where an 'old dear' kept turning ...

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Chuka, please no no no. To veer, so violently, from Ed Miliband to Chuka Umunna would dent Labour's credibility - probably irretrievably. It would be akin to renaming (again) the Party. I don't believe we could get away with it. Chukka Umunna was one of the Labour MPs who put Ed Miliband forward fo...

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Chukka Umunna's standing!

He needs to get a running mate from the traditional wing of the party - Andy Burnham or Alan Johnson would be good.

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Our comfort blanket is a default position of antagonism towards the Tories for their own sake. It's a divisive, angry, polarising vilification of the middle ground that defies people to position themselves as for or against - which, though it might play well on the battlefield, frightens those to w...

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Labour needs to be careful of lots of things in the coming months. What do you think our comfort blanket is? I'm pretty sure it's probably very different for several groups ... and that's part of the problem. Our comfort blanket is a default position of antagonism towards the Tories for their own s...

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Labour needs to be careful of lots of things in the coming months. What do you think our comfort blanket is? I'm pretty sure it's probably very different for several groups ... and that's part of the problem. Our comfort blanket is a default position of antagonism towards the Tories for their own s...

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By the way, I wasn't just venting my "what to do?" despair rhetorically. I genuinely don't know and would value the advice of those around here. mrs. onebuttonmonkey says I should rejoin Labour; I don't know if I've ever felt like I'm about to have less in common with them or less ability...

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For the last five years we have taken comfort in our anger; we have shrouded ourselves in moral catharsis - we have flagellated and spat in the face of those who see things differently; calling them at best deluded and feeble minded. What we haven't done, and what the failure of Labour has been, is ...

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I've signed up to Labour as a paid member. I can't look at my kids in five years time and say that I didn't do every thing I could to stop a third term. So, the autopsy. The rebuttal unit. What was needed was a calm forensic explanation of what actually happened in the crisis; where the money was sp...

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Sorry, Labour, but putting in a doctor who lives in Scotland for North Somerset, although the symmetry with Liam Fox might be poetic, doesn't endear me to you on this occasion. I'll be hoping Ed wins nationally, but as Fox's majority is over 5k I may as well go for Green on this occasion.

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Just seen the Afzal Amin story - interesting that the Mail splashes on it, but not to be seen in the Telegraph. mail coming out for UKIP, or just different print deadlines (although not on website either). So we have a Tory engineering a crisis so that he can use it as an excuse to bring in an ideol...

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As I've said in The Other Place there are four constituencies in Scotlqndwhere voting for the snippers could possibly (and then not plausibly) let the Tories in and in Angus Robertsons constituency SNP moving to Labour could let them in. I think no that if Scottish voters feel that strongly about in...

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StephenDolan wrote:UKIP leader Nigel Farage: 'NHS almost killed me' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31883683" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nigel has only got one ball? We know a song about that, don't we boys and girls?

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Someone starts to try and be realistic about a Labour/SNP coalition/pact: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/general-election-2015-what-would-a-labour--snp-coalition-look-like-10096132.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Opinions? I'm all for it....

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According to the Guardian's home page, Steve McFadyean was Rio Ferdinand's ex-Lover.

No wonder the Mirror resorted to phone hacking!

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Mini point of order, North Somerset is a separate constituency and is full of Liam Fox. Only UKIP and angry farmers can dislodge him.

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