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Nanette Newman is in her eighties anyway. Times might have changed a bit since she was a girl

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Thank you @ephemerid. You have expressed exactly my views about Labour's approach to Brexit, but much more clearly and comprehensively than I could.
Good luck with PIP

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're shortening odds on Owen Smith, I nearly had a bet on him about six months ago when he was 16/1. Decided not to after remembering my only previous venture into political (or any) betting, on Gillian Shephard (who she?) for next Tory leader.

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I have to admit to sitting on the fence regarding the civil war within Labour. I didn't vote for Corbyn but I had thought he was doing ok and he was evidently a person of integrity. On the other hand I can see why the PLP are so frustrated with him. A friend of my husband is on the periphery of the...

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So the kicker in all this is the decision the NEC took on members eligability to vote and registered supporters. Both suggest that if Owen Smith stands Corbyn looks very beatable. Incidentally I wonder if Len is going to consult his members on who to support - of course he won't. What happened to o...

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Just signed in specially to thank you all (with one exception) for your informative interesting and diverse posts. No falling out please.
P.S.Stephen Kinnock is a nasty little shit

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I just want to echo NeilBB's post last night and thank you all for your informative posts over the last few fraught weeks. I don't post often as I read ftn on a. Kindle and posting takes an age. For what it's worth I never thought Jeremy wanted to stay until 2020 but just stay in post for a couple o...

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Allegra Stratton ‏@BBCAllegra 8m8 minutes ago 2/ Osborne told meeting that if £4.5bn isn't raised from tax credits then it's from schs, hospitals and local auths. Just as much pain. I thought we had some "unexpectedly good" job figures the other day? How about old age pensions? I suspect ...

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Mine too until I just watched an episode on youtube. :dance: Afternoon all Apologies for the pedantry, but Watch with Mother was the generic catch-all term for the programme. Monday's episode was called "Picture Book" and often featured a story about "Bizzy Lizzy" who always got...

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@ohsocynical and the foreign aid budget, why can't the BBC World Service be funded from this? It provides/provided for better value in increasing our influence abroad than a lot of the projects we do fund.

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I write as someone who retired from the Nhs over ten years ago, and NHS Wales has always been more resistant to PFI anyway so I may well be wrong, but I thought one of the main objections to it was that the contracts covered not only building projects but also maintenance, cleaning, catering etc, wh...

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Media distorts something > goads others to reply to misrepresentation > leads to further headline > media rubs its hands and thinks its doing its job by reporting it. Yes I agree with all of that, but he was very unwise to say it for exactly those reasons. Which was my original head in hands moment...

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Genuine question. Is Osborne in overall control in tackling this latest crisis? God help us if he is. I hope Labour are making very careful notes about what he does, and says... Wouldn't it be nice if they had something to sling at the Tories in 2020. I'd be much happier if it was Gordon (and Alist...

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Evening All I still really really don't like this or any leadership contest and just regret that Ed has gone. So, I'm still very much out of the loop and I'm sure this has already been covered. But what outcome does Cameron most fear? I read that Tories are signing up with Labour to vote Corbyn. Bu...

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@ SpinningHugo The world (and NATO) are somewhat different now, though. NATO is arguably as important now as it was in the Cold War. Any Labour Party arguing to leave it would only get my vote if I believed they couldn't win the election outright. Has the party policy changed....Corbyn is not a fan...

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This will unstick it PF. From the Welsh press - a story about a sex club that meets in rural Wales. http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/so-what-really-went-kinky-9909409" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; http://i3.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/article9908594.ece/...

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UKIP pose as a "real Labour" alternative in anti-Tory areas. That is how they nearly won the Heywood and Middleton by-election just weeks after Ed Balls made an almost comically pro-austerity speech at the Labour conference (which they exploited shamelessly, rushing out "we will defe...

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ohsocynical wrote:Sorry. Scratch that. 28c.

Thanks a bunch! We are facing our fourth continuous day of drizzle. 16.2C.

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I don't log in very often, as you know, but I do read here everyday. Much love to you all and particularly to those of you who have health problems, of your own, or of your loved ones . Glad to know you're still with us, Chris. Hope that the Forest of Dean will remain free from fracking – indeed, t...

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I had to look it up as Corbyn trouser press didn't sound right. It is of course Corby, and available on Amazon for only £139.99.

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TobyLatimer wrote:For what it's worth - Watson, Creasy & Eagle for deputy, in that order .....

Same three for me,but in reverse order.

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I shall be so disappointed/disillusioned if They persuade Ed to come out against Corbyn. I think and hope he's better than that.

CitJA. Yes please, if it's Marmite icecream

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To be fair to Corbyn, it's clear that he's read a fair bit on the subject and ignored his brother (who is an egregious climate change denier). I wasn't aware of this till he mentioned it. the Committee on Climate Change found that a virtually carbon free power sector by 2030 would cost consumers £2...

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Please feel free to shoot this down and point out all the flaws in my argument but is there any reason why it would be necessary to buy out the privatised energy companies in the event of nationalisation? Could a Corbyn government not set up a state energy company to run parallel to,and in competiti...

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TobyLatimer wrote:So what do we think of Danny Alexander being in the pipeline for a knighthood,
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Only a knighthood. I thought he'd earned a lordship at least

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http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/07/why-has-labours-swing-voter-endorsed-jeremy-corbyn Why has Labour's "swing voter" endorsed Jeremy Corbyn Jeremy Corbyn has picked up the endorsement of Unison, Labour's second-largest union and seen as the "swing vote" in the Labour p...

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DUP supporting Tories on hunting according to tweet by George Eaton.

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Jim Pickard ‏@PickardJE 7m7 minutes ago Labour MP: "That was the most important meeting of the PLP I have ever been to." I'd like to think it marks the start of something different ... Paul Waugh ‏@paulwaugh 4m4 minutes ago Labour MP tells me whips estimate "dozens" of backbench...

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Sorry,meant to bold the bit about stupid and crazy

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Mr Ohso has just rung from the hospital...They have given him a machine to wear at night for sleep apanea. The good news is the car passed its MOT. We had it serviced at the same time, so it cost a bit, but it didn't make me suck my breath in. Now to get the road tax out of the way before I forget....

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The interviews are near identical. the reason Kendall's has been picked up is that she has been rude. She has called the others the 'continuity Miliband' candidates. This has been noticed because it is rude with a grain of truth to it. (I think it is also unfair, and the kind of thing I might say o...

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Jamie Reed ‏@jreedmp 2h2 hours ago Jamie Reed retweeted George Osborne The irony is burning my eyeballs. No wait, not the irony, the bare faced lying. George OsborneVerified account ‏@George_Osborne Labour has let down the North before and an Ed Miliband govt propped up by the SNP would do it again...

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I think the word for a contradictory term that rr2 was asking about ,as in "intelligent UKIPper" is oxymoron. Perhaps my example should have been "courteous Conservative". My MP replied to my letter about nicotinoids and bees with what was clearly a CCO cut and paste job but he, ...

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That settles it. If Milburn is voting for LK then I'm certainly not.

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AngryAsWell wrote:Which Labour Leadership Candidate Are You?
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(I got Yvette Cooper)

I was Jeremy Corbyn. Good!

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Have to go to work now. And then back to try to figure out what - if anything - which I doubt - I can do about the blight which struck my greenhouse tomatoes yesterday. Very sad. Have spent two hours early this morning taking them all out and placing in quaratine until I have time to take decisive ...

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I heard a very disturbing and upsetting story this week. A friend's adult son was caught shoplifting in our local town a few months ago. It was while he was having a high episode - he is bi-polar. It was his first and only offence - he was apprehended immediately, offered no resistance, and wasn't ...

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This evening I have been making bread. I often pick a politician to focus on as I bash the dough around. Tonight it was Michael Gove. What a face to think about as you pull out the dough fold it over itself and then punch your fist down into it ... repeating as often as required, for as long as you...

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Cameron fails to rule out cuts to disability benefits Asked in the Commons if he stood by the commitments he made on disability benefits during the election campaign, the PM declined to comment (Guardian) http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jun/03/cameron-fails-to-rule-out-cuts-to-disability-be...

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Is it just my telly or do all the Tory mps at pmqs look smugger fatter and pinker than before (Fishpointer included)?

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Probably my last word on the FIFA front, as it starting to become football gossip. Do not underestimate how big a deal the investigation is, it was a spectacular level of corruption. I doubt that there is much else on that scale around (these days at least). However not everything Blatter did was b...

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The temperature here has been dropping rapidly and it's pouring with rain. This on the day I regard as the first day of summer. I feel cheated. Wondering what it's like elsewhere. Horrible here too. Cold, less than 10centigrade outside, very wet and windy. Arthritis in my hands has flared up as a c...

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@ FTN contingent living in Wales - well south and west Wales - anyone thinking of going to the Swansea Labour leadership hustings on 5th July? A few things going on medically at the moment. Will have to see what happens. I honestly don't have a clue who to support at the moment. Edited to add excep...

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Bit of a shocker from Chris Leslie. Another one promising Tory-lite. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/30/chris-leslie-interview-labour-shadow-chancellor-election How on earth can 'allowing state companies to bid for rail franchises sounding like a form of re-nationalisation' be a proble...

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/manchester-mayor-elected--despite-not-being-voted-in-by-the-public-10285935.html on devomanc The whole dam thing is appalling, if they really think Osborne will fund the experiment properly they are delusional, prepare at some point for "Manchester...

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Andrew Spooner retweeted ITV News ‏@ltv_news · 3h3 hours ago BREAKING: Former Prime Minister Tony Blair to return to British politics after being selected to take an advisory seat in Tory cabinet. Just .....no words Its a parody account, pal - though I don't blame you for believing it :P Oops I had...

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Just back from holiday in France with several Tories (more anon) so still catching up but, per yahyah, when comments were made about superb roads, beautiful flowers and lack of litter, I made a point of saying that was a direct result of socialist government. Didn't go down well. Further report when...

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"Wealth creation" and "Aspiration" Fuck off. Just. Fuck. Off. Because nothing symbolises the Labour Party like I want to be loaded, irrespective of the ways and means hey LK? Show me the polling data related to specific Labour manifesto pledges that show this is the way to go. J...

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frightful_oik wrote:Anyone else feeling underwhelmed by the Labour leadership candidates so far? Or is it just me?

Angela Eagle would do it for me but we must be getting near the max number of candidates

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Cameron, reported to be going to say later today: "For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'. Have to say I've not been one of those who get that hung up on the more notional edge of civil liberties, b...

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