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This : Senior Tory accuses Johnson of blaming NHS for government's Covid-19 failings Exclusive: Andrew Lansley says ministers made mistakes over lockdown, PPE and testing https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/17/senior-tory-andrew-lansley-accuses-boris-johnson-of-blaming-nhs-for-governments-cov...

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Responsibly, legally and with integrity...

So.

My mum's funeral is on Wednesday. We'll have ten minutes in a gazebo next to the crematorium.
I did not follow my instinct to drive to York to hold her hand - I said goodbye over a mobile phone on speaker...

I feel such a fool.

Bastards.

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It is. But I think there's an awful lot of us going through the same thing.

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I'm so sorry for you.

Thank you PorFavor. I'm not used to being unable to sort things out or fix stuff...

Had more news - she may not be aware of anything. Maybe tonight or tomorrow. She is very weak.

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I think I've just said goodbye to my mum over the phone. allowed one person there - my sister suited and masked. We had the phone on speaker - could hardly hear her but she said she loved me. and that she'd be watching over me... we all laughed when I said she still made that sound like a threat... ...

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Thanks all. She's four foot ten.. a bit over 6 stone and a fierce spirit.

did I mention Scottish...

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so, my mum - 86, advanced bone cancer - blood condition. isolated at home, but out for blood transfusions every 2 to 3 weeks, had a fall - we think might have been 24 hrs before my sister gave up calling and broke isolation found her collapsed. Taken off by ambulance ( we can't see her ) was on a dr...

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“I don’t believe the polls,” Trump said. “I believe the people of this country are smart. And I don’t think that they will put a man in who’s incompetent.”

I'll leave it at that...

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HindleA wrote:Does fervency,especially pinned to one person aid in the persuasion stakes or rather make less likely?

Less.

I'm sure I'm unique - but I cringed more and more each time I heard the 'Oh, Jere...'

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/23/labour-leadership-momentum-survive Genuinely interested as to thoughts if they helped,hindered the chances of Labour being in government,or indeed made no difference. Well, despite the risk of getting slapped around the head from the house prefect ( ...

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PorFavor wrote:Would that be the best little Wharehouse in . . . ?

I saw what you did there...

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Hi citizenJA. There is, of course, another, far more depressing, explanation. That the Tory tactic was to basically admit that Tory governments deliberately target Labour held areas with bigger cuts than Tory held areas and that as long as Labour had someone as useless as Corbyn in charge who could...

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I think gilsey's post on yesterday's thread here regarding the incongruity of voters rebelling against governmental leadership by voting for the same government is worth re-reading. The linked quote suggests the voter didn't realise which party was in government. Willow904's response helped make so...

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Free broadband is hardly "tinkering" - its a potentially trans formative policy. And doing away with public schools wasn't actually in the manifesto. The real mistake, as I said yesterday, may have been being *too* ambitious and not concentrating on a few key messages as in 2017. The &quo...

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gilsey wrote:

Thank you. I sometimes need to read someone articulate to make sense of what I feel...

Reference 'eyes off the ball' and 'tinkering around the edges' - free broadband and banning Public schools...

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I've set aside my £3.00...

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From another forum I visit - primarily climbing and hill walking. Interesting to read the range of views.

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This is worth a read https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/13/inside-labours-campaign-behind" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 'An exasperated party veteran said that while watching a Conservative press conference from Labour’s Southside HQ, a young press officer was h...

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I got ridiculed for saying on election night that we might just have to wait for them to start dying off, but there's truth in it isn't there? No there is not. You've said this after previous defeats as well. It was wrong then too. The population is ageing. That section of society is getting bigger...

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I think the point is it's not about Labour winning it's about changing our voting system. Yes. Forget from where - but saved this earlier : with a basic PR (percentage share) of seats they should have : Conservative 43.60% 283 (364) Labour 32.20% 209 (203) Liberal Democrat 11.50% 75 (11) Scottish N...

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citizenJA wrote:I don't know much about Hoyle.
Anyone want to share anything about him?

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/go ... en-speaker" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Did Labour and the LibDems not also support (or at least not, not support) the GE? I had thought the plan was to go for a referendum before any GE but that appeared to suddenly cave. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/03/obey-brexit-jeremy-corbyn-warns-cabinet-dissenters" onclick=&q...

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Removing the foreword from 'Great Britain' ?

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Sink my boats...

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On a positive note - Faridge isn't happy !

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'This is not brexit '

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I have this vote...which apparently I can use anywhere I like...

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Gaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh !

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then read the Observer - Corbyn ( and I allow this is the paper's slant ) seems set on a 'Labour' brexit as a preference.

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tinyclanger2 wrote:FWIW I don’t think Labour should risk an election without a referendum on the current options:
- crap deal
- no deal
- no Brexit
What’s the word?

and that...

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Am afraid Labour needs radical change to stand any chance at this point. Common sense, community spirit and common decency don’t translate into party politics in our current truth-free world. Sound bites are the new facts and charisma (no matter how mystifying to me) trumps good-decision making, ho...

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And I can't help but notice that under stress the Corbynista left is attacking Liberals and Scottish Nationalists rather than the fat lying shit currently masquerading as our Prime Minister, while doing their best to deselect their own MP's who don't pass the purity test. Yes.. though I'm watching ...

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''No backstop'...is not an option...'

Well...that's going to be a fun morning...

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In the last half an hour or so, BBC TV News was reporting (with film footage) on some sort of "Brexiteer" v police fracas in Westminster. I've looked everywhere for reference to it, but it seems to have now completely dropped out of sight. Was it this : https://www.theguardian.com/politic...

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In the last half an hour or so, BBC TV News was reporting (with film footage) on some sort of "Brexiteer" v police fracas in Westminster. I've looked everywhere for reference to it, but it seems to have now completely dropped out of sight. Was it this : https://www.theguardian.com/politic...

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If he shouts and chucks plates we can record it on our phones

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tinyclanger2 wrote:By the ref I guess you mean the massive majority vote, biggest democratic vote ever in iUK history etc that Johnson keeps regurgitating on about

Yes - the massive mandate...the people have decided...bollix

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So Noes and abstains beat ayes...

shame that didn't apply to the ref'

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even the people who know about these things are confused

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ie. instead of a straight No to no deal.

It's gone to 'Let's have May's deal instead...

I think...or...gawd I don't know...my stomach hit the floor when I read it though

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It's suggested that it shifts the delay - heading towards a referendum - to leading instead to May's brexit deal.

bloody kinnock

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Laura Kuenssberg‏Verified account @bbclaurak Follow Follow @bbclaurak It looks like the Kinnock amendment to put Theresa May's deal back to the Commons for another vote just went through by mistake.... things are getting very very odd around here indeed aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggggg...

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https://sluggerotoole.com/2019/05/20/the-brexit-party-look-set-to-dominate-at-the-european-elections-in-great-britain-as-the-conservatives-collapse/ The predicted results & chart are interesting (tried to attach chart but think it will appear to large), it has Labour losing seats but not too Br...

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Whoop! Sheffield Gleadless Valley result in : Name Description Votes Dryden, John Liberal Democrats 257 Elliot, Lewis The Conservative Party Candidate 201 Hollingworth, Marv UK Independence Party (UKIP) 481 Jama, Nadia Labour and Co-operative Party 1595 Turpin, Paul Christopher Green Party 2514 My s...

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Donald Tusk - awesome. Shame he's a faceless, unelected bureaucrat. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2019/04/09/invitation-letter-by-president-donald-tusk-to-the-members-of-the-european-council-art-50-ahead-of-their-special-meeting-on-10-april-2019/" onclick="window...

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PorFavor wrote:Apropos of nothing -

Mark François's middle name (I've just discovered) is Gino!

Is that like Lino....struggling with what G could stand for

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I can keep singing then

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Yvette Cooper voted for the deal?!? Well all those #FBPEers who were singing her praises not so long ago might be given pause for thought there. Or not. Lab Yvette Cooper Normanton, Pontefract and Castleford Against https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2019/mar/29/how-did-your-mp-vot...

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Following Roger's post last night : 'Not sure whether they'll bleep it out on iplayer but this was great... Quote: Trevor Durham #FBPE @TheTrevorDurham 50m50 minutes ago More Nick Watt on Newsnight “I asked a cabinet minister today why is the Prime Minister holding a vote when it’s pretty certain sh...

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