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Good night, sorry to be leaving when you have just arrived JA.

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AngryAsWell wrote:Diane Abbot on R4 has just said
"Clearly if we don't get any of our amendments though, then we will have to review our position" (about voting to let A50 go ahead)

..........??

Is it me?

No. No it isn't.

yahyah

So, those of us who are 'obsessed by Brexit' and oppose triggering Article 50 are not alone, and any attempt to paint it us as 'red Tories' etc will not stand up when our arguments and concerns are agreed with by people like Monbiot, The Canary and Harry Leslie Smith who says Corbyn is wrong on it. ...

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Flippin' Ada. The tide is turning.

The Canary's [yes The Canary] editorial says Corbyn's made a colossal mistake.

http://www.thecanary.co/2017/01/27/jere ... editorial/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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George Monbiot's tweets yesterday are interesting. ''a political disaster'' ''for those who continue to maintain the three line whip story is untrue...'' ''why not allow a free vote'' '' I was thrilled when Jeremy Corbyn became leader of the Labour party but it is now one fiasco after another. I hav...

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https://labourlist.org/2017/01/labour-w ... ens-quits/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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The time for the whip is surely after the bill & amendments, not before. Corbyn jumped the gun and as with so much he does, he's shot it into his own foot. With respect pk, that's not what I'm asking. There's been a lot of support for Labour to be against A50 being invoked, I wondered if any th...

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Yesterday I had creamy celeriac and pear soup with focaccia and Welsh butter, delicious buttery risotto with Perl Wen cheese and spinach - the spinach was the healthy part of the meal, salted chocolate cremeaux [fancy name for mousse] with creme fraiche ice cream. I didn't care and I still don't. Ea...

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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:In the era of Trump and May we should probably avoid headlines like this
Prince Harry pounds London pavements with homeless youngsters
They probably think it's the best use for them.

Hide that before PorFavor sees it.

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Charge for woodburners too ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38746482" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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It won't take Anatoly long to do his by election roundup this week. Looks like only one in Scotland.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk ... es-9705681" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not surprising from Paul Nuttall.

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''Ahem. Step forth Corbyn on his last leg. Roundly condemned for his 7 out of 10 argument. Should have been 10 out of 10.''

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The wasp woman has spoken More sort of buzzed than spoken. Have to admit the pic was taken a few years ago. My waist isn't quite that small anymore, and I've given up grabbing half naked men with my long limbs. edited to add...you'd have to see the whole pic to understand the latter part of my post.

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I'm story Stephen. I don't understand your 'ahem....' remark.

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The comment at 11.06 speaks for me. When I recall how Steve worked so hard at disproving the Mid-Staffs stuff (speaking of which, where is St Julie since she got her gong - job done I guess) to see him so entrenched in nonsense & conspiracy theories is sad. https://skwawkbox.org/2017/01/26/labo...

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gilsey wrote:
yahyah wrote:Have only seen a quick clip of the Ed M appearance on Newsnight but nice to see him on good form.
Hard not to think 'what if ?'.
You missed the bit where he said he supported Corbyn's 3 line whip then?

Yes, it was a Trump question I saw him answer.

Et tu Ed ? Oh dear.

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@willow Good post. Your point about people like Abbott fetishing a referendum result, that's what worries. It leaves a huge opportunity for the right to exploit it. There may be pressure for other votes so we can let 'the people' speak on other issues. How could Labour argue against a government im...

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Thanks, didn't know much about them. Gisela Stuart was enough for me.

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Has this been done before? http://search.electoralcommission.org.uk/English/Donations/C0245093" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Looks very much like Labour Leave donating to UKIP. This has to be serious trouble, surely? Saw that earlier. Is that why Anatoly called Labour Lea...

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StephenDolan wrote:Soz.

Has she resigned too

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https://twitter.com/JoStevensLabour?ref ... r%5Eauthor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jo Stevens' letter.

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Have only seen a quick clip of the Ed M appearance on Newsnight but nice to see him on good form.
Hard not to think 'what if ?'.

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Thanks Hindle. Have read the link now.

I thought it meant she was offended by the ''sorry state of affairs we're at here''

yahyah

Thanks for the reminder about Holocaust memorial day ParrotKeeper.

Wales' First Minister Carwyn Jones is jointly hosting a national service in Cardiff today.

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Jo Stevens ?

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Just catching up on yesterday's news. Only heard about Tulip's decision this morning as was out most of yesterday.

So JC did mean a three line whip, not a gentle ask.

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Yeah, get lost with this "elites" stuff for Remainers. Next time Abbott mentions poverty in Hackney, the Tories should tell her there can't be much, with its 78-22 vote for Remain. Must be crawling with elites, they can fix the poverty with their spare change. Come to think of it, 46.3% v...

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@willow Good post. Your point about people like Abbott fetishing a referendum result, that's what worries. It leaves a huge opportunity for the right to exploit it. There may be pressure for other votes so we can let 'the people' speak on other issues. How could Labour argue against a government imp...

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I didn't get to respond to this from Willow from last night I think you're a bit hung up on the idea of people "blaming" Corbyn, when it's his positions like wanting to leave the single market that some people are unhappy about, not that he's somehow responsible for what has happened up t...

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citizenJA wrote:I was thinking of the optimism here prior the 2015 GE.
That defeat hasn't stopped hurting, the government returned hurt many.
It didn't have to be this way.
I'll hold on.

It's easier to blame each other than look at the real problem.

yahyah

Thanks for the messages.

I'll think of you tomorrow when I'm scoffing a lovely lunch...am looking forward to the pudding already.
Will bring some back with me.

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Even if we are 'obsessed with Brexit' - so what ? It is one of the most important things to have happened since the last most important thing that happened. It is serious, it could be a massive cock up, it could be disastrous for the economy, wages, living standards, for public services. Just becaus...

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Probably just inflamed a whole lot more of a hate campaign.

Oh dear.

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and thank you for posting Ephie. One of the things that has made me 'waspish' is what many of us here felt was the elephant in the room - the person/s coming to pick at people on FTN - and at least it has been made explicit now. The hypocrisy of me being scapegoated as a 'fucking bitch' by some peop...

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Hi Ephie. It is hard to feel warm hearted to people who call you a 'fucking bitch' Ephie. Although for words to hurt it is necessary to feel respect for those who are swearing at you. Waspish ? Hard not to be darling. You'd have to be a saint not to. Maybe I should be a sweary wasp, that's more the ...

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How can you go from announcing a white paper to having the Brexit act approved in both houses in 9 weeks? This is utterly ridiculous. I can't see the problem with saying this and not voting for Article 50 in March. Wait till June. We then know who'll be the President of France, the second biggest r...

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Welcome back Rob, genuinely, if you aren't here to play 'wingman' to Silly and pick at Tubby or others.

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What's a 'leadershop', Where is there one, maybe we can get a decent new leader at a bargain price ?

Some people think Corbyn's a disaster. Get over it. A massive amount of voters think so too.
You'll change no one's mind by turning up after work and having a go.

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Grown-ups? That's me ####ed then Pretty obvious you are a couple,you don't have to keep up the pretence any more. Do you mind A ? I've got good taste in men. ;) I'm just fed up with flouncers flouncing out, then coming back here to earn plaudits from their pals elsewhere for taking on people who ar...

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Ey up, night shift's clocked on.

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Passive or just plain ordinary aggressive ?

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I hope you've got an internet link or sufficient evidence to back up your baked good assertions JA.

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No flyby ~~attacks~~ visits from another place yet ? Don't forget to bring cakes this time, particularly the 'back up' man who flies in to help his failing comrade. Ta. Only polite to bring gifts.

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It may be folly JA, but it's the 'will of the people' therefore must be pursued to the bitter end and damn the consequences.

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Did you see this Tubby, down your end of Wales ?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/b ... n-12494775" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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I think he's got a crush on you Tubby. Follows you around like a puppy. Sweet.

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Now that is silly isn't it. Ludicrous in fact.

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It looks as if HSBC have quietly announced they are closing 62 branches.

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