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A quick thought.... given the mess that will be brexit if I ran a party I would be rather keen on not being PM when the sh*t hit the fan.

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Gotta love people who have either been here a few weeks or turn up only every now and again throwing their toys out of the pram over a specific request that we not discuss Corbyn or the Labour leadership every sodding day and maybe talk about something else. And no, the Labour leadership isn't the ...

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Gotta love people who have either been here a few weeks or turn up only every now and again throwing their toys out of the pram over a specific request that we not discuss Corbyn or the Labour leadership every sodding day and maybe talk about something else. And no, the Labour leadership isn't the ...

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Has Owen Smith ever said what things he was trying to push when he was a lobbyist? He has said what he wasn't but he must have be paid for something.

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Morning ephemerid yes for clarity it was another member, not ephemerid, who flagged a post yesterday. This happens very rarely and so as an untrained, volunteer admin I responded to it. Thank you, Paul. "As an untrained VOLUNTEER admin...." That's the thing - you and Refitman are running ...

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Each time we are told to redouble our efforts [May/security]. Do they not understand geometric progressions?

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In case this is of interest. First degrees of the May's bunch (please tell me of any errors as I just scanned Wikipedia) Theresa May, Prime minister, geography at St Hugh's College Philip Hammond, Chancellor, Philosophy, Politics and Economics at University College, Oxford Boris Johnson, Foreign, Cl...

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Everyone who joined but is not allowed to vote should cancel their membership and demand a rebate as they were falsely sold. If the rebate does not come then take them to the small claims court. How many would have to do this before they give in and see sense?

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Is there anything in the Labour rule book about how long you have to be a member before you can vote? If there is (and it is 6 months) then the problem is not making this clear (including by AE), if there is no rule about waiting 6 months then the NEC have made a mistake. Does anyone know the rule b...

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If no one gets 50% then the last place votes are distributed till someone does. For the deputy leader it took a few goes. Was there bad PR after the deputy leader result? I think it's fair to say that the circumstances here are somewhat different to the ones for the deputy several months ago. ;) Im...

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Look who is the Favourite for the next PM after May
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A silly thought (to finish off page 3). If the Conservative party's policies move to the left when the Labour part moves to the Left (to fill a void) and it looks like the Conservatives will be in power whatever happens in the Labour party is the country not better off with a more Left leaning Labou...

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Because she is basically rather dense? I suspect because even a few second choices for Corbyn from whoever gets knocked out first might be enough to get him over the line. It's more likely that, should he not win the first round outright, he may still get close to 50% while the other candidates wou...

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Well, if may really wants to Remain... Andre Walker Verified account ‏@andrejpwalker Grayling has asked for Secretary of State for Brexit. As swearing now seems ok. We are all fucked if the moronic incompetent Grayling gets that job. I suppose the "hope" is that he FUBARs it all up so muc...

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Why does Hodge want just one candidate to challenge Corbyn when there is a tranferable vote? Because she is basically rather dense? That's what I thought - it was also mentioned on Newsnight last night (I cannot remember by who) that only one person should challenge. Is that why the Cons have to ha...

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Why does Hodge want just one candidate to challenge Corbyn when there is a tranferable vote?

edited to remove too many 'just's

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Peter Lilley says Cameron has a mastery of the dispatch box that he has not seen anyone else achieve. People know Cameron is driven by a sense of duty, he says. The Conservative Ken Clarke thanks Cameron for his leadership, but also for the wit and elegance he has brought to PMQs. JFC/WTF/YMBFKM. :...

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yahyah wrote:Via Mike Smithson, latest Ipsos Mori, fieldwork 9th to 11th July:

Tory 36% +1
Labour 35% +1
Lib Dem 11% +2
UKIP 8% -2
Green 4% no change

I thought that Labour were meant to be miles behind?

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From GL Corbyn says he has a question from Nina. Can an EU citizen who has lived in the UK for 30 years have their right to stay revoked. Cameron says there is no chance of that happening to someone in those circumstances. He says this might only happen if Britons in other countries did not have the...

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Owen Smith now very short odds on being next Labour leader, odds on with some bookies http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-labour-leader" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I can't see it myself. Those odds are hard to believe, but he has more chance than E...

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All talk of a legal challenge to Corbyn being on the ballot seem to have vanished. This is probably because of which members can vote. I now wonder if (now we have 3 candidates) they will drop the restrictions (before there is a court case on this) and allow all members to vote. I can hardly see Eag...

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A question
If Eagle withdraws is that the one Challenge allowed this year over and done with?

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The Tory battle is, in my view, going to get vicious Leadsom will go full throttle on Leave knowing that the grassroots are instinctively that way inclined May will have to follow her to an extent.....in fact she may be even more Brexit than Leadsom due to her choosing Remain. I think that was tact...

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May is meant to be a remainer. In the referendum immigration was evidently a topic which encouraged people to vote leave. May is in charge of the current immigration policy (at least as regard to non EU). Is not her complete non-engagement in the referendum and her inability to counter the immigrat...

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I find that Leadson reminds me of Christine Hamilton.... this is not a good place.

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May is meant to be a remainer. In the referendum immigration was evidently a topic which encouraged people to vote leave. May is in charge of the current immigration policy (at least as regard to non EU). Is not her complete non-engagement in the referendum and her inability to counter the immigrati...

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The Libdems might get some of their seats back? Besides, they want to reduce parliament and draw up new boundaries before the next election. Possibly but we are told that Labour will do very badly under Corbyn and that with Cons winning they would have longer to bring in new boundaries (as they mig...

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In 2014, under pressure from the Conservative party, then Labour leader Ed Miliband changed the rules on party elections. In a decision that some said “could alter the course of history” Miliband revised the rules to ensure that all union members would have to explicitly ‘opt-in‘ to support the par...

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If Labour are unelectable why don't the Conservatives want a GE? The Libdems might get some of their seats back? Besides, they want to reduce parliament and draw up new boundaries before the next election. Possibly but we are told that Labour will do very badly under Corbyn and that with Cons winni...

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If Labour are unelectable why don't the Conservatives want a GE?

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frog222 wrote:8.23 confusion ! the first half of that is of course Roger . x

Ah I've been meaning to change to summer time - I almost got used to being an hour behind.

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Well, I was wrong about Boris, then. Looking more into the story, it seems he was definitely set to enter the fray last night and then, suddenly at the last minute, boom he's out. "Nobbled" perchance? Gove's connections worry me, rather. There's something quite rum here. Maybe Murdoch had...

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I do think that the £3 member was a mistake. All voting members should be fully paid up members.

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I do hope the PLP are very sure that voters will not vote Labour while JC is leader. If he is such a liability why is the Conservative party pulling back from holding a GE when they have a new leader. I would have thought that a new leader would take any chance to increase their overall majority in ...

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If Corbyn resigns and therefore there is a new election for a leader would the PLP allow a similarly left wing MP to stand (i.e. like last time nominate someone they didn't much care for to create balance)? If not who will the Corbyn supporters vote for or will they just leave the party? If they lea...

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On a more serious note. How is the gap in grants, when they are transferred from the EU to the UK gov, going to be bridged. I cannot see any grant application to the EU now being granted but also I cannot see the UK gov even allowing for applications until after we have left. This is going to be a b...

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StephenDolan wrote:
minch wrote:Harking back to the 80's.... when I wake up who is in the shower?
Bobby!

What I meant was that if the last weeks have been but a dream what would we wake up to.

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Harking back to the 80's.... when I wake up who is in the shower?

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Do you remember the time when the favourite phrase of politicians was that they were 'listening to the people'.
I haven't heard that phrase for a while.

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For such an important change one would have thought that one would have needed >50% of those able to vote, rather than those who did vote, in order to leave. Most organisations require high percentages before constitutions etc. are able to be changed.

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Exchange rate going back further. On 26/02/85 it was 1.042! Go here http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/boeapps/iadb/index.asp?Travel=NIxRSx&TD=24&TM=Jun&TY=2016&into=GBP&CurrMonth=5&startDD=25&startMM=5&startYYYY=2015&From=Rates&C=C8P&G0Xtop.x=1&G0Xtop.y=1...

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Project Fear eh? Barclays and RBS shares suspended from trading after tanking more than 8% http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/barclays-rbs-halts-trading-eu-referendum-brexit-ftse-100-stock-market-a7105196.html The pound has also lost another cent (rounded) against the € and USD in the ...

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I wouldn't trust them with anything sharper than a crayon Ooh. That's jogged my memory, didn't they use a more crayon like black marker in the old days? The pencils now have very thick leads. No way could you erase it completely with a rubber. Googled, but all I could find said UK has always used p...

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Given that the Leave camp still state we pay £350M a week into the EU (ignoring what we get back), perhaps the Remain camp should state that the EU gives the UK £180M a week (ignoring what we contribute).

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First of all apologies for not posting more often. FTN is always open on my PC but I guess I am never quite sure enough of my points to post. But today a few observations. 1) It is great when all sides make points here. We have a place where ideas can be discussed with general good humour (even thou...

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From Imperial War Museum: ''Wing Commander W G G Duncan-Smith, Wing Commander Flying, No. 244 Wing RAF, with "Bonzo", a bulldog mascot of one of the squadrons of the Wing, standing by his personal communications aircraft, a commandeered Italian Saiman 202, at Tortorella, Italy. Duncan-Smi...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._G._G._Duncan_Smith Hopefully IDS hasn't edited it. I am confused as from the wikipedia entry for spitfires https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Spitfire it says: The last operational sortie of an RAF Spitfire was flown on 1 April 1954, by PR Mk 19 Spitfire PS88...

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Very telling. Child is the father to the man etc. We moan and suffer from angst, we endlessly want to talk and dwell on our problems. "My parents, they were stoic. They didn't even have antibiotics. My father kept fighting with double pneumonia. He hated whingers, he'd tell us to sort ourselve...

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The government has slashed the cost of a Chinese visitor visa from £324 to £85. There were 90,000 Chinese visitors in the first six months alone. My online calculator makes that a loss of government income of over £40,000,000 a year on those figures. Or is my decimal point in the wrong place ? I ma...

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Nice to know that the Conservatives are all united.

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