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by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:33 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34809

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

If you don't care about Labour, why keep banging on about it? As a self professed Green why aren't you talking about them?
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:23 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34809

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

HindleA wrote:Hailstonemaggedon here at the moment.
Did it pass?

Looming skies here.
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:17 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34809

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

Nationalism seems to have been the tory vehicle to power and maintaining it. A good enough reason to stand firm against it, and all it represents. Never trusted that Cameron offered those two votes as a pro EU pro UK person. As with almost everything he said one thing and the result was another. Nev...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:00 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34809

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

SpinningHugo wrote:
Almost my entire life has been a story of decline for the Tories in Scotland and Wales. But they are coming back, astonishing times.
Don't sound so fucking gleeful.
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 4:47 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34809

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

Interesting posts from almost everyone this am, good stuff. Any thoughts on the 'Tory revival' in Scotland, cos I don't really get it? Unionists don't vote for the SNP, obvs, but what logic would lead them to vote Tory? Brexit logic I suppose, but there's a strong possibility that independence woul...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 3:56 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34809

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

If it was all about policy then surely the Tories would get hammered as their policies are shit? I think you're ignoring the consistent context that these discussions happen in outside of forums like this. The conservative's policies will not be picked over by the press, their economic failures wil...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 3:04 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34809

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

Fascinating graph on age and voting patterns https://twitter.com/samgadjones/status/856832184459644928/photo/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Explains, to a degree, the change in Wales where the population is more rapidly ageing than the rest of the UK as the young leave. ...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 1:16 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34809

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

The government are evil shits who are destroying the country and they need to lose, and labour need to win. We need a labour government after the June general election. But it's not going to happen. It's not happened It's demoralising to Labour members, leadership and voters wanting justice calling...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 12:33 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34809

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

Think "look we told you they couldn't budget" orgasmic inducing parading for misanthropes. The range of people who might get made redundant and need a little help used to be most of us. These benefits used to be considered "our" benefits and voters were generally more sensitive ...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 12:15 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34809

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

HindleA wrote:Think "look we told you they couldn't budget" orgasmic inducing parading for misanthropes.
Helps their feckless scroungers narrative, and their nasty survival of the fittest meritocratic bollocks.
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 12:10 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34809

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

http://www.apse.org.uk/apse/index.cfm/research/current-research-programme/redefining-neighbourhoods-beyond-austerity/ Food banks report record demand amid universal credit chaos Charity calls for immediate reduction in six-week wait for first benefit payment after handing out 1,182,954 emergency pa...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 11:55 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34809

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

Good Corbyn Howsilly in his usual irenic fashion was pressing Tubby to choose between May and Corbyn as PM. There is literally no chance of Corbyn ever being PM for any length of time. Why? Assume, arguendo, that Labour wins a majority in June. Even the most optimistic scenario would give a majorit...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:20 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

Taking 'shut up' meds.
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:16 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

If differences can't be resolved among people with same aim, same start place, many same interests, what hope for the world so how to stop trying? But all adult, no, and in fact a little disturbing when open discussion means people disappear and lurk instead of joining in. just trying to see things ...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:02 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

Have to say, never saw or read a word against you anywhere. Happy that is so, too.
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 5:00 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

Tbf that happened on both sites. I copped some of it here for nothing whatsoever but a four month decidedly non flouncing absence, flouncing would in fact have been a luxury activity, bows on head bands and lippy, with shiny tapdancing shoes. Tolerance and good humour had a holiday here. Reading the...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 4:14 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

Also probably cooked my goose for frank analysis of things here. Nice mods could always ban me. Bloody troublemaking old skinbag.
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 4:06 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

I love misinterpretate. But the two sites have porous borders! bit like kipper/tory, no? Otherwise why was Tubby over there! No gigglers, except on real life stuff, no hit and run, no flouncers, no coordinated attacks as some believe. The similarity between SH/TI posts with their final lines making ...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 3:08 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

Cursing not an issue, curse away. Its not supporting, or letting the real enemy off the hook is a problem. At most basic, who would I have lunch with, could stand for Gordon, Ed and Jeremy all together, but wouldn't sit down with TM for any money, not a fucking masochist, and as for her predecessor ...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 3:00 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

With respect,of course they can post anywhere but understand T's annoyance of in effect running commentary,think running off and giggling with others in a corner impression.In turn howsilly did later post here but it shows the inherent danger,creation of suspiscion,bad faith,etc so perhaps best for...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 2:39 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

Ed thought the election was winnable pretty much to the end, if anything he was undone by polls that misled him in strategy and by the rise of the SNP that allowed English nationalism to be exploited by Crosby. However he resigned, not because he was forced out, although some would have tried, but ...
by seeingclearly
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 2:17 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

I'm slightly confused where I said HowSilly shouldn't be allowed to post. I said I'd ignore him. But a joyful ode to free speech you wrote there, even if my speech is to be treated differently to people saying exactly the same thing, because I've got some devious plan to it. As I recall, the big fa...
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 11:44 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

TE, i would agree we are unlikely to lose May, and I utterly agree on the consequences. However I diverge on the causes, and see that disunity of opposition that well predated Corbyn is a cause of the present situation. The damage caused by internal factionalism that resulted in undermining and eve...
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 11:28 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

Wow. I have a look on the other board? And what do I find? Mr Silly is congratulating himself on how he's giving me the run around. Apparently I really wanted May as PM. He's mysteriously failed to tell them that I said I wanted a Labour government two hours ago. But I'm sure he was on his way ther...
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 10:52 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

TE, i would agree we are unlikely to lose May, and I utterly agree on the consequences. However I diverge on the causes, and see that disunity of opposition that well predated Corbyn is a cause of the present situation. The damage caused by internal factionalism that resulted in undermining and even...
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 10:30 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

Cripes, Tubby, that one sentence there reads like an incitement to violence. or at very least condoning it. If it weren't FN would you say this of home grown violent fuckers, or would you advocate judicial process? I have met highly intelligent far right people here, they don't all attend drunken E...
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 10:00 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

It is tories ever more that worries me. I would rather a fractured Labour party with a decent but not very popular leader than to have five years of the escalating social destruction we have endured now for seven. Freely admit I find it incomprehensible why others would undermine possibilities to be...
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 9:46 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

Cripes, Tubby, that one sentence there reads like an incitement to violence. or at very least condoning it. If it weren't FN would you say this of home grown violent fuckers, or would you advocate judicial process? I have met highly intelligent far right people here, they don't all attend drunken ED...
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 9:35 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

That last had me baffled too.
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 9:20 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

It will be all about immigration and xenophobia. It was this, inherent in her Downing Street statement and in her statement to the House that impressed upon me the most just how far this Tory government has strayed from a genuinely British stance and into the realm of unreason. As if she were about...
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 8:57 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

The intention in calling an election is to distance and make irrelevent the last election, and any issues surrounding its outcome, and to retain power. The means to do that is to mobilise brexit voters. It is quite cynical, really.
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 8:19 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

She is busy mending her invisibility cloak.
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 8:12 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

I'm not keen on Trident either. But it's popular- even in Scotland, if you ask "what if nobody else is disarming?" you get a majority in favour. Shifting that is very difficult, and I fear, a "Nixon to China" issue, where only somebody formerly a strong "cold warrior",...
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 7:46 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

I'm not keen on Trident either. But it's popular- even in Scotland, if you ask "what if nobody else is disarming?" you get a majority in favour. Shifting that is very difficult, and I fear, a "Nixon to China" issue, where only somebody formerly a strong "cold warrior",...
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 7:33 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

I think it's hard to say how many people polled are actually voting for the Tories. A good chunk of Tory support is probably coming from people continuing to vote for Brexit by voting for the party they feel is going to deliver Brexit. As such, May doesn't matter as much, it doesn't matter if she i...
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 7:18 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

I'm not keen on Trident either. But it's popular- even in Scotland, if you ask "what if nobody else is disarming?" you get a majority in favour. Shifting that is very difficult, and I fear, a "Nixon to China" issue, where only somebody formerly a strong "cold warrior",...
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 7:15 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

Trident renewal as a defence question should not be anywhere near an important issue in an election.....Corbyn has himself to blame a bit for that but the lazy consensus around this issue has been, to put it bluntly, complacent and nauseating.....we will be spending a lot of money on it though, and...
by seeingclearly
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 6:58 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45787

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

I think Scarlet Gas the answer to your question and request is a 'No' The fact that the greatest undermining of the Nuclear Deterrent idea ever seen was given by a Tory Defence Secretary suggesting that a first strike is even a massively remote possibility. This shows Corbyn is right in saying that...
by seeingclearly
Sun 23 Apr, 2017 2:17 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47245

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

I suspect the motormouth will 'want' my new constituency. :-( Thank goodness election being fought on the old.
by seeingclearly
Sun 23 Apr, 2017 2:08 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47245

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

Regardless of who they are, this article suggests they were already officially selected for the next election in 2020 well before such selections would normally take place. On the back of Brexit referendum chaos, a reasonable pre-caution. And despite Tory protestations, the Guido Fawkes article sug...
by seeingclearly
Sun 23 Apr, 2017 5:47 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47245

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

'The walks give clarity': how Wales hike helped PM decide on next step ...it was during her five-day holiday in north Wales two weeks ago that she was able to discuss the prospect with her closest confidant, her husband Philip. With two security guards trailing behind them, the couple took a two-an...
by seeingclearly
Fri 21 Apr, 2017 9:18 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 21st April 2017
Replies: 94
Views: 28345

Re: Friday 21st April 2017

Tory government snap election, not allowing some UK citizens abroad a vote on it, changes to EU nationals freedom of movement...this is bad news I thought this was just walking away from Cameron's rather dodgy let expats vote forever approach. At the time it was seen as a way of upping the Tory vot...
by seeingclearly
Fri 21 Apr, 2017 8:34 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 21st April 2017
Replies: 94
Views: 28345

Re: Friday 21st April 2017

http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2017/0290_16_2104.html SUMMARY NATIONAL MINIMUM WAGE The appeals consider the proper approach to the question whether employees who sleep-in in order to carry out duties if required engage in “time work” for the full duration of the night shift or whether they a...
by seeingclearly
Thu 20 Apr, 2017 10:19 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 20th April 2017
Replies: 148
Views: 38636

Re: Thursday 20th April 2017

:clap:
by seeingclearly
Thu 20 Apr, 2017 10:09 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 20th April 2017
Replies: 148
Views: 38636

Re: Thursday 20th April 2017

;) Not just an ear worm, I am a visual thinker. Blame Hindle, it's his bloody pigeon.
by seeingclearly
Thu 20 Apr, 2017 9:55 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 20th April 2017
Replies: 148
Views: 38636

Re: Thursday 20th April 2017

Theres a continental theme there, don't ya think?
by seeingclearly
Thu 20 Apr, 2017 9:53 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 20th April 2017
Replies: 148
Views: 38636

Re: Thursday 20th April 2017

Ha! I have some earworm from Leonard Cohen, I think, something about Berlin?
by seeingclearly
Thu 20 Apr, 2017 9:51 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 20th April 2017
Replies: 148
Views: 38636

Re: Thursday 20th April 2017

Forgive me for late entry and spate of inanely tardy posts, my day has been distracted by the incredibly important task of whittling down 55 pigments to 8. Infinitely harder than the political choice ahead, transparent or opaque, fugitive or permanent, but anyway the best quality for the least cost.
by seeingclearly
Thu 20 Apr, 2017 9:45 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 20th April 2017
Replies: 148
Views: 38636

Re: Thursday 20th April 2017

EU will welcome Britain back if election voters veto Brexit Exclusive: European parliament president Antonio Tajani said EU departure process could easily be reversed if there is change of UK government The president of the European parliament has said Britain would be welcomed back with open arms ...
by seeingclearly
Thu 20 Apr, 2017 9:42 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 20th April 2017
Replies: 148
Views: 38636

Re: Thursday 20th April 2017

I think May could be in for a serious shock. She's banking on an increased majority, but the lib dems are going to win seats back, it was their collapse that gave the tories the majority in 2015. Labour cant really lose any more in Scotland, and I cant see the Tories improving in wales, likely to f...