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BTW anyone else wondering whether Ed really "forgot" the bits about the deficit and immigration? :twisted: Not really, no. Rusty is trying that approach at the moment, how desperate are they if that is their best shot? Back in the day I used to belong to a theatre group; our company was a...

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Night PF. Dear Mr Button Monkey ....... I suspect the issues we have with each other is frustration and a lack of understanding of each other's position. What you've put into words this afternoon makes great sense, not really much I disagree with in there; but ....... I didn’t mean to say there’s no...

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I pointed that out to MichaelSylvain on Twitter. He was saying there's nothing to choose between them. I asked him were Labour and Coalition the same on Saving the NHS? Surely it was worth voting Labour for that alone? I get the feeling the nay-sayers don't think so, which I find appalling. If we c...

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Andrew Sparrow (Guardian), in his "Snap Verdict" has rated Ed Miliband's speech as "tedious". Is that like the Guardianspeak word "poignant"? Hands up everybody who was defending Sparrow yesterday? He has previous in this area, not the first time he has taken a poke at...

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As well as the damage another Tory government would do to the country as a whole, I think the left wing critics pushing the "Labour are just the same, there's no point voting for them" line need to face up to what will happen to Labour if they do lose this election. I pointed that out to ...

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Btl at the other place is predictably trollish at the minute

Ed is doing fine, though.

Twitter is also predictably trollish, sadly the people doing it are the "We Are More Socialist Than You" badge wearers. Trying to remain polite, but .....

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This is the story bar on the Labour conference on the homepage of the Guardian website: Labour conference Welcome to the political future John Harris video: Britain after the referendum. John Harris visits Glasgow, Leeds and Manchester and meets people engaged, fired-up – and disconnected from the ...

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Well, I'm back where I was on Friday, despairing for the future and seeing little hope for any of us. I get that Labour aren't perfect. I get that they aren't the radical party of old that so many want. I also get the fact that if we don't keep shooting ourselves in our collective foot we are all su...

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Shall we try not to start scrapping about this again? ;-) Given we know there is broad political alignment among posters here in general, it follows for me that it must be rational to hold FTN type views yet be either for or against independence. Well said. I've lost one friend over this whole sorr...

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I'm guessing that after his meeting - and after the Cabinet Secretary has had a word and told not to be so damn silly - Cameron will come over all Prime Ministerial and say "Of course, we are always going to have all party talks on this. That was never in doubt". It depends on whether the...

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Wintour is still hyping up "Labour crisis" over this for all its worth, though..... Meh. Wintour is a very limited creature, journo equivalent of a pit bull; once he gets his teeth into something he won't let go, up to (and including) the point where the oncoming train hits him. Even the ...

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The EV4EL business is the biggest pile of shit yet promulgated on the back of the vote on the 18th. The West Lothian question is *irrelevant* if you accept that Westminster is the national parliament. Full stop. That's it. What's more, once you start excluding democratically elected MPs from votes ...

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Polleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! And Owen. Patrick Butler. Shiv Malik. Randeep Ramesh. Aditya Chakraborrty. Hugh Muir. It's not as bad as it seems when you compare it to the Torygraph or the Indy. And if all else fails...Martin Rowson. Upon whom I have a severe if not terminal girly crush. Huhne is gon...

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Seamus Milne is good. Polleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! And Owen. Patrick Butler. Shiv Malik. Randeep Ramesh. Aditya Chakraborrty. Hugh Muir. It's not as bad as it seems when you compare it to the Torygraph or the Indy. And if all else fails...Martin Rowson. Upon whom I have a severe if not terminal gir...

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Yes you may well be onto something there. I'm concerned by Sparrows coverage of the conference. His latest line is I'm not in front of a TV so I have no idea how they're going down but the sense he's giving off is that none of the Shadow Cabinet have anything really worth saying. I hope I'm wrong &...

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I'm developing a deep, simmering hatred for the Guardian and everything it stands for. The only reason I haven't totally abandoned the Guardian for the Independent is the appallingly bad comments setup at the Indy. I rarely look ATL at the Guardian now; more sense is spoken, and better information ...

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Robin Southwell's speech, if anybody is interested.

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Smithson on how Labour are maintaining its poll leads, despite Ed’s poor ratings. Nice graph from Ipsos Mori in his piece. http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/09/22/explaining-the-ed-miliband-polling-paradox/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; You probably...

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Morning all. Apparently NASA's next mission is a rescue mission to Planet Havisham to see if they can bring Glenda's lad back to reality. Sadly, Congress declined to make the funds available. The $128 trilllion NASA was asking for was deemed not cost-effective Then it is down to Tom Cruise .... bri...

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Smithson on how Labour are maintaining its poll leads, despite Ed’s poor ratings. Nice graph from Ipsos Mori in his piece. http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2014/09/22/explaining-the-ed-miliband-polling-paradox/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; You probably...

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Morning all.

Apparently NASA's next mission is a rescue mission to Planet Havisham to see if they can bring Glenda's lad back to reality.

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This might not apply to your mum, but I think many of older Conservatives vote that way because in their minds it's somehow more respectable. The better class who were looked up to were Tory, whereas in their [my] childhood Labour very much represented the poor working class. Respectable. Now there...

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Makes me want to slap them across the back of the legs, and say, don't encourage them! Just like naughty toddlers? Sounds about right. Shamefully my mother is a loyal Tory voter, perhaps a reaction to her own father's views; thankfully I take after him, not her, in this respect. :D This might not a...

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Was going to start a Books/Writing thread, and OhSo's mentioned she's been writing a novel too. Like you I've got background research/back story/plot outlines and quite a few scenes and chapters based on partisans in Northern Italy in 1943 -45. [It may come as a shock to some as my online postings ...

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All across this country there are a lot of people that vote Conservative and have done all their life. They are usually a bit better off, stiff upper lip, upright, law abiding, Royalists, love their country, sticklers for the 'old fashioned' values. How the hell can they read about Dave's perfidy a...

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Night PF.

Twitter is weird. I am now having a conversation with Martin Rowson about the reading habits of his (rather adorable) cat. A needed little light relief after the past few days.

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All across this country there are a lot of people that vote Conservative and have done all their life. They are usually a bit better off, stiff upper lip, upright, law abiding, Royalists, love their country, sticklers for the 'old fashioned' values. How the hell can they read about Dave's perfidy a...

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Rusty is just a nasty vicious troll. He told me last week that I'd missed my vocation and should have been in health care instead of constantly whinging about benefits. He didn't respond when I told him what I used to do for a living...... I have emailed the community people weeks ago and told them...

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Very interesting blog post from Mike Sivier, hits the nail firmly on the head. And the FOOL motif (Friend Of Ol' Lynton) definitely needs to go viral! http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2014/09/21/cameron-has-reneged-on-his-promise-to-scotland-why-is-miliband-getting-the-blame/" onclick="window...

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No, absolutely not. If you go with PR you will give UKIP a platform. The South East will be a UKIP Tory fiefdom. PR is back room deals stitched up by the elite. Small FPTP constituencies will be winnable by smaller parties. If the SouthEast gets fed up with Tories it can vote them out. Don't want t...

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I asked rusty to explain what his own party's manifesto commitment meant - the but I posted earlier. His reply? I wouldn't use the fact that everyone has ignored your post further down as an indication of a lack of ability to explain anything. They probably just saw your humiliating breakdown on th...

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It will be well worth watching Channel 4 news tonight for those interested in the ongoing badger cull shambles and Defra ... yet another government department completely unfit for purpose and in total chaos ... The behaviour of Defra under this Government has been nothing less than shocking; but a ...

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Here's what the last Tory manifesto said: Labour have refused to address the so-called ‘West Lothian Question’: the unfair situation of Scottish MPs voting on matters which are devolved. A Conservative government will introduce new rules so that legislation referring specifically to England, or to ...

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Osborne should take note, never mess with Ed Balls!

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Good afternoon. I've been watching (on BBC Parliament, Ch 131) the Labour Party Conference which is now in lunchtime recess until 2.15pm. I remain impressed by Angela Eagle. Her delivery and style are almost perfect. I wish I could say the same for Gloria De Piero with her arm waving, "Breakfa...

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Faisal Islam ‏@faisalislam 5m Alex Salmond refers to older voters who democratically voted No as a "blockage" to aspirations of younger voters on @MurnaghanSky Yet more politics of division - seems to be the basis of everything these days. Surely there were also older YES voters - and you...

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It's a good article, isn't it. Bucked me up to hear Ed talking like that - and being very open in his assessment of Cameron's tricks and complete failure to understand what's required and, just for once, think a bit long term ... beyond his next photo opportunity and election gambit. We need some m...

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He is willing to consider the role of Scottish MPs, but say this can't be done in a huge hurry to suit the Tories. The convention, he insists, is a way of making sure the people have their say on everything from the future of the House of Lords (he backs an elected senate with representatives from ...

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tinyclanger2 wrote:sorry that (above) sounds a bit pompous - such a tone not intended!

Should hope not. Pompous is my thing!

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He is willing to consider the role of Scottish MPs, but say this can't be done in a huge hurry to suit the Tories. The convention, he insists, is a way of making sure the people have their say on everything from the future of the House of Lords (he backs an elected senate with representatives from ...

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I've given up trying to understand what is going through their heads - Toby, Ron, T&C, Waxy ..... they seem determined to make it easy for the Tories. Seems we don't only have to fight the Tories, we've got to fight them as well, hence my pessimism at the moment. I suppose people follow politic...

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Maidstone, Kent (a very safe Tory seat

) but only been here for about a year. Roots are South London, born in Bermondsey (where my grandfather was a docker and union pioneer) largely brought up in SW London.

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hence my pessimism at the moment I think it's an age-old problem. Idealists, motivated by a desire to make things better, tend to split into smaller and smaller groups as they fail to agree on every point or definition. This inevitably makes them less able to fight those motivated only by money and...

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I have always loved mayflies and damsel flies - genus ephemeridae. I am also a person in 12-step recovery, and take my life a day at a time. Mayflies are reputed to live for just 24 hours - a bit like me, but I get another go and they don't. I had a tattoo of of one done on my ankle on my second so...

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Has anyone else noticed TobyLatimer is posting and re-Tweeting a lot of anti Ed, anti Labour stuff? Puzzling. Does he want more of what we have right now? I've given up trying to understand what is going through their heads - Toby, Ron, T&C, Waxy ..... they seem determined to make it easy for t...

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I have always loved mayflies and damsel flies - genus ephemeridae. I am also a person in 12-step recovery, and take my life a day at a time. Mayflies are reputed to live for just 24 hours - a bit like me, but I get another go and they don't. I had a tattoo of of one done on my ankle on my second so...

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But, if Ed's the wily politician that we suspect he is [Syria etc] then he'll have a plan. Brown's not stupid either. He's won't go in like a bull in a china shop and damage the party. I refuse to believe they didn't have an inkling of what might happen. Blimey, we're suspicious enough about the Co...

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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09 ... K+Politics" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nuff said.

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A previous username had become catnip to a set of particularly nasty trolls, so a retirement was in order. Being a big Pratchett fan, the new name seemed a logical choice ....and it gives me the ability to go an scythe at people's ankles if they annoy me, as some have undoubtedly seen over at the Gr...

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I share your frustration with the MSM - but then so do the Scottish Yes voters and yet still they had an immensely successful grassroots campaign. (Like I say, a don't like nationalism, but it doesn't mean I don't appreciate the immensity of the popular support their compaign engendered). This is w...

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