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AnatolyKasparov

Actually not quite, the only real difference is that the speaker referred to "Keir Starmer and his Israeli sponsors" and that "so many in the Labour party are supported and funded by Israel". Are you seriously saying that is significantly better? Genuinely, just stay off this stu...

AnatolyKasparov

I don't think anyone has been suspended *just* for supporting an immediate ceasefire per se.

Some may have been for stuff like voting for opposition motions, after they were explicitly whipped not to.

AnatolyKasparov

Good morefternoon, all.

AnatolyKasparov

Except that he was (probably) from modern day Turkey, as pointed out in the comments

AnatolyKasparov

I assume that Sky is still on his hols then?

AnatolyKasparov

Russia on yesterday's terrorist atrocity - "it wasn't actually Ukraine who did it, but it was Ukraine's fault anyway"

AnatolyKasparov

I think the words "involving Jews" was at least intended somewhere?

AnatolyKasparov

I think that is three Reform PPCs dropped after dodgy social media stuff now. One safe prediction is that there will be at least a few more.

AnatolyKasparov

Good morefternoon, all.

AnatolyKasparov

Liddle has also got worse rather than better over time, back in the noughties he did have some redeeming features.

AnatolyKasparov

Nah, I'm fine

Actually, have remembered the PM's quip now - it was after the Mid Beds byelection and he commented that at least the new Labour MP would actually be more supportive of him than their predecessor for that seat had been. Even lots of the opposition benches found it genuinely funny.

AnatolyKasparov

So he came out with a goodish joke, OK then.

I think even Sunak has managed that at least once.

AnatolyKasparov

Short list, even so.

He is a charmless nerk, Blackford did it better whatever else you say about him.

AnatolyKasparov

One of three PMs in Europe of indian extraction - the other (Costa) is about to step aside following the recent Portuguese election.

Which will just leave Sunak - but for how long?

AnatolyKasparov

Sunak seems to have grown fond of attacking Starmer for doing his actual job as a lawyer.

AnatolyKasparov

If you say so, I haven't read the whole thing so can't comment. Hughes (whose Twitter account I do look at) aren't exactly the most disinterested observer themselves, though. And the Labour "iron chancellor" isn't exactly a new thing is it. Apart from the almost mythical Snowden, some stil...

AnatolyKasparov

George Eaton had a rather different interpretation of her speech, interestingly.

AnatolyKasparov

Labour is generally not in favour, dismissing them as fundamentally gimmicks with few positive features.

Stuff like the above is why I would have voted for Miles if I had a say in that election.

AnatolyKasparov

Quiet today innit?

AnatolyKasparov

Watch them lose to Coventry in the semi now

AnatolyKasparov

Jason Cowley taking a break from making the Staggers well nigh unreadable, then.

AnatolyKasparov

Just realised it was a Reform Party bus, all makes sense now

AnatolyKasparov

Brilliant, wasn't it.

Effective filibustering is indeed an art.

AnatolyKasparov

Yes, in the seventies and eighties doing musical instruments at school was entirely normal - I know this as a former clarinet (Grade 5) player.

AnatolyKasparov

Vaughan Gething is the new leader of Welsh Labour (and thus also first minister in the coming days)

AnatolyKasparov

October 10th is the new rumoured election date, though I suspect Sunak might well find an excuse to push it back again.

AnatolyKasparov

Last night it was in Liverpool, so you would expect the audience to be more anti-Tory than usual.

Even so, their standard bearer had a remarkably torrid time by all accounts.

AnatolyKasparov

Its not blackmail if she decides to quit because of her poor health. Please be serious for once - instead of seeing the blackest, most nefarious conspiracy behind literally EVERYTHING all the time. Not following so many total cranks on Twitter might help. AK, go back and reread your post. I was res...

AnatolyKasparov

Its not blackmail if she decides to quit because of her poor health.

Please be serious for once - instead of seeing the blackest, most nefarious conspiracy behind literally EVERYTHING all the time.

Not following so many total cranks on Twitter might help.

AnatolyKasparov

It is being claimed that Sunak has said there will *not* be a May GE, in an interview on regional TV.

AnatolyKasparov

You're assuming that she hasn't at least been semi-authorised.

I said a few days go when this all blew up, I can see her getting the whip back as a quid pro quo for her retiring at the coming election.

(which would be the best thing anyway, given Abbott's well known health issues)

AnatolyKasparov

It might be worth it if the rest of the panel cite her past ravings at her. But will they?

AnatolyKasparov

Good morefternoon, all.

AnatolyKasparov

Too long. And that applies more generally, not just to DA.

But that doesn't alter the fact there *is* such a process, which many on the left called for.

AnatolyKasparov

You do know that there is an independent process with these things, right?

OJ and yourself may choose to interpret Starmer's words unsympathetically. Others may not.

AnatolyKasparov

Depressingly, wanting to get back into the good books of some Tory MPs may well have been at least part of Hoyle's decision.

AnatolyKasparov

Poor stuff from Hoyle, no question.

Though in not totally unrelated news, it does seem that Andy McDonald has had the Labour whip restored.

AnatolyKasparov

We'll see about Abbott - I can see her getting the whip back after this, certainly if she issues an apology for her earlier comments.

(and tbh she should also say she is retiring at the coming GE, her health has not been great in recent years)

AnatolyKasparov

So some of the most racist comments you will ever hear, are not actually racist according to senior Tories. Gaslighting, much?

AnatolyKasparov

Labour briefing that Sunak will call a GE this week, though I remain sceptical.

AnatolyKasparov

Lee Anderson has defected to Reform.

AnatolyKasparov

More than that, she announced she no longer supported Labour on at least three separate occasions. Impressive stuff.

AnatolyKasparov

Anyway......are *you* a Kate Middleton pic troofer?

AnatolyKasparov

Though today was the first time I heard Reeves confirm there will be a pretty much immediate cash injection into public services if Labour wins.

A fairly small thing in itself, and a massively obvious one, but still. It maybe shows she does live in the real world just a bit.

AnatolyKasparov

Anyone about today?

AnatolyKasparov

I'm almost one myself (born 1966) though I think anyone with a birthdate after c1960 has some Gen X characteristics.

AnatolyKasparov

Sure, but it is definitely more prevalent amongst them - plus they are about the only group who still actually reads newspapers.

AnatolyKasparov

Before too long, a lot of the boomers who lap up all this crap are going to be dead - what then?

AnatolyKasparov

I saw that particular fib called out almost straight away tbf.

AnatolyKasparov

I always feel a bit disappointed when Sky isn't able to do his QT report for whatever reason.

And ultimately, he watches it so the rest of us don't have to

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