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Just caught up and some great posts. Am I correct in thinking the latest polling, pre-brexit, showed lab and con neck and neck?

And let's be nice to each other and remember that far more unites us than divides us.

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I thought there was a no flouncing rule on here.
Wilow, say what you want for I see no harm in what you say. I may not agree about Corbyn but this isn't an echo chamber and you're one of the best posters on here. Ditto RR2.

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Seems to me SH has moved on to the next part of the strategy - you've all had our anger but we grown ups will now translate that into a proper leader and you can all relax again. SH, as you haven't addressed the central points of who this mythical leader is, why the PLP, who have shown no political...

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How many who voted Corbyn last year would now reluctantly accept that, their point having been made, a new leader from the mainstream of the Labour party is now required? JC is the mainstream arm of the party. Did you not see the poll results. I wouldn't want anyone from the nasty little clique in ...

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Where's Charles Clarke when he's needed?

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If England lose tonight it's gonna get really scary.

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They want him to resign so he can't stand against them and renew his mandate.

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I note that the SC quitters are drip-feeding their resignations for maximum media impact. Meanwhile the tories get away with murder. They have betrayed their party and their voters.

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This is a genuine question. Just who is this mystical person who is going to provide all those things the resigners want? There was a discussion here yesterday and nobody had unequivocal support. I am still not clear what Jeremy Corbyn has done wrong. He doesn't provide leadership and isn't charism...

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Alastair Campbell ‏@campbellclaret 7m7 minutes ago Alastair Campbell Retweeted WordsAreCheap Yes many new members still think he is the Messiah. But many see he cannot win an election that may be soon Yes, think this is the point - we need a leader in that can win and we need it fast not in 2020. I...

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I'd concede Owen Smith. But isn't he loyal to Corbyn?

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@willow. I heard someone on the radio yesterday saying the best indicator of which way people would vote was level of education. It's why I was half expecting a leave vote. The less well educated read papers like the Sun and the Mail who were pushing the blame foreigners for everything argument for ...

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@willow. I heard someone on the radio yesterday saying the best indicator of which way people would vote was level of education. It's why I was half expecting a leave vote. The less well educated read papers like the Sun and the Mail who were pushing the blame foreigners for everything argument for ...

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I voted in. I take the Corbyn line of much wrong with EU but offers better route than out.

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Come what may, half the country are going to be very cross on Friday. Hope they rightly blame TCC for his ridiculous referendum. Man's a twat.

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& let's hope Rentoul is wrong too. ''If Leave wins on Thursday, stand by for Boris to call an early election''. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/if-leave-wins-on-thursday-prime-minister-boris-would-hold-an-early-election-a7088151.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ...

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citizenJA wrote:Ah. Tories don't want to put someone up, might end up too crushing for them.

Tory image damage mitigation

My first thought as well.

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Torygraph devoted large part of its obit to pointing out her differences with Corbyn.

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First walk in town since I broke my leg. Why does it hurt more now than when I broke it? Weird. Having a cuppa at the Arts Centre.

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Dan HodgesVerified account ‏@DPJHodges According to @MattChorley Ed Miliband "is privately advising Mr Corbyn on how to lead the Labour party". That explains a lot... Dan Dan The Telegraph man at it again... Only he hasn't written for the Telegraph since February, I believe. You can take ...

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I Daniel Blake is released in the autumn according to the actor who plays him.

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I think it's the first phone poll to show 'Leave' ahead. I could be wrong.

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rebeccariots2 wrote:
Huge hospital overspend to be revealed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-36334496" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Why is it an overspend and not an underfund?

Morning all. Over the football now

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After this week's appalling figures for NHS England, I was wondering where Saint Julie of Bailey has been hiding. Not a peep from her on the recent mess - but I found a sweet little Tweet from 28th April: "When work was halted on safe staffing, I lost confidence in Jeremy Hunt and his promises...

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" it was not connected with promoting the election of any candidate." eh? How does that work? I'm puzzled too. If each constituency is only allowed a certain amount of money, Cons are saying doesn't count if extra is spent for/in that constituency as long as it comes from an outside or ot...

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In the (IMHO) extremely unlikely event of there being fresh by-elections, how many are strong / weak/unlikely retains for the Conservatives? Aren't a lot of them marginals? I agree it is on balance still unlikely, but wouldn't go as far as to say "extremely". This thing has already made m...

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I live in Derbyshire and know nowt about potholes apart from the ones on our roads.

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Morning. Got my cast off yesterday! Still swollen to my surprise. Got to wear a special boot for 3 weeks. Going to my first match since March today. Had my first shower since March too. Bliss! Did anyone else hear Fallon making a complete and utter arse of himself on Toady? Still going on about Khan...

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I have absolutely no recollection of ever hearing the phrase "modal verb" before today. You haven't lived! Of course, here on the South Derbyshire Riviera, we know all about modal verbs. We do admittedly fret a bit over whether we're talking about deontic, epistemic or dynamic modality.

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rebeccariots2 wrote:Euuw - Stephen Crabb is heavy breathing into his microphone as he insists Universal Credit is still wonderful and makes everyone better off ..... Someone needs to tell him to move away.

Not one interruption from the interviewer. See they can do it if they try.

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ohsocynical wrote:Andy Cowper ‏@HPIAndyCowper 17m17 minutes ago

That is comfortably @heidi_mp's most effective performance as shadow health

5Live played all of Hunt's speech and then cut away so the presenter could repeat what Hunt said while HA was speaking.

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Twitter is fuming at Nick Robinson. Anyone catch it? Yes, I did. Interviewed a patient, chair of RCS and BMA. Hectoring, aggressive and frankly disgraceful. Just trotted out the Tory line. We're no longer surprised by this; maybe others are catching on. Not sure whether to listen later to this then...

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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Twitter is fuming at Nick Robinson.

Anyone catch it?

Yes, I did. Interviewed a patient, chair of RCS and BMA. Hectoring, aggressive and frankly disgraceful. Just trotted out the Tory line. We're no longer surprised by this; maybe others are catching on.

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StephenDolan wrote:Humphrys being a complete twat with Khan. Interrupt, interrupt, interrupt.

Lynton must have sent him a dead cat to throw on the table. Shockingly bad interview.

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I'm dreading Joni Mitchell and Van Morrison bowing out .... Like PfY I was wondering earlier if Eminem might make the 'groundbreaker' status. Don't know how truly widespread his influence has been beyond music though. Similarly Kate Bush. Kate Bush is too peripheral to be a great. Awful voice too ....

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Happy 30th Roger and Mrs Roger.

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Apparently Gidiot has just said that brexit would mean 8p rise in income tax. I think JC is right to leave the tories shredding one another until after the locals. The problem with saying this is that in the event of Brexit, he's still the chancellor. Would he be implementing an 8p increase come th...

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Apparently Gidiot has just said that brexit would mean 8p rise in income tax.
I think JC is right to leave the tories shredding one another until after the locals.

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But if Lab and the SNP say no, there won't be an election. I can't see Tories risking losing their majority.

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Hi yahyah, sorry you're still poorly. Take it easy and that's an order! Just got back from Derby Royal and making good progress. I can more or less walk now so long as it's not too far. Haven't got to go back for 3 weeks. I shall be taking a spare shoe and sock and wearing a hopeful look on my face....

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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/12/the-dark-side-of-guardian-comments?CMP=share_btn_tw "We also found that some subjects attracted more abusive or disruptive comments than others. Conversations about crosswords, cricket, horse racing and jazz were respectful" We jazz fans ...

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Paul Lewis on Twatter:

Miliband: 'he is a dodgy Prime Minister surrounded by dodgy donors' Hansard 11/2/15 c.769. No rebuke from Bercow. Why pick on Skinner?

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Cameron says most crown dependencies and overseas territories have agreed to provide UK law enforcement authorities with information about beneficial ownership. Only Guernsey and Anguilla have not yet signed up, but they are expected to soon, he says. This sounds, on the face of it, pretty positive...

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Jezza can order a copy from HMRC. I believe that's what he's done.

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Just back from hospital, *tips hat to the Royal Derby team*. Fracture and ankle stable, plaster for five more weeks and can put some weight on it now.

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Can't do twatter but JohnClarke1960 posted this: Contrary to whatDave IMPLIED: The luxury leather goods company that employs Samantha Cameron is based in a tax haven http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/smythson-leather-goods-and-luxury-stationery-company-that-employs-samantha-cameron-is...

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Can't do twatter but JohnClarke1960 posted this: Contrary to whatDave IMPLIED: The luxury leather goods company that employs Samantha Cameron is based in a tax haven http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/smythson-leather-goods-and-luxury-stationery-company-that-employs-samantha-cameron-is-...

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Interesting question posed by someone on the Guardian politics live comments. Anyone heard from the Tax Payers Alliance on the Panama Papers or have they gone to ground like La Kuenssberg and the other usual suspects? There was a bloke on the Nicky Campbell thing this morning. He basically trotted ...

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rebeccariots2 wrote:I'm expecting some kind of big distraction issue to appear in the next 24 hours to take the heat of Cameron and co .... something designed to cause maximum hassle for Labour.

They'll probably murder Larry and throw his corpse on a table somewhere.

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Yanis Varoufakis on R4 now.

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