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Thought I would drop in to share commiserations. It was my birthday yesterday, thanks for the present David Cameron. :cry: On the plus side it may turn into a bank holiday. 8-) I find it somewhat ironic that Wales has voted leave when we would not vote for independence from the UK (or England). The...

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No,it is not Corbyns fault. He told the truth.In fact,my brexit leaning son changed his mind because of Corbyn,said he was the only politician who was being honest. We need him more than ever now,imo,not some bloody blairite to nod through whatever ravages the tories will be heaping on the country....

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Morning all. Thanks for all the comments last night, I've just about caught up. Bristol solid for "remain" as expected so, with a Bristol postcode, at least I don't have to feel like a fish out of water. No doubt Somerset was big for "leave", I haven't had time to check yet. Hat...

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Maeght wrote:Dear UK centrists who voted for pragmatic, economy-friendly Cameron over crazy, dangerous Marxist Miliband last year...good call. Good call.

Yes, this, a thousand times this.

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Hi all, So, sorry to hear about Lady C. I will miss her wonderfully warm and insightful posts. RIP good lady. I have been avoiding politics (even FTN and the news - well right wing news anyway, which lets face it is most of the news outlets in this benighted country) since May last year. Ever since ...

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On reflection if he isn't a rabid Blairite it has to be Jarvis. Why, because we have to energise the UKIP tendency on the left and Jarvis will do that. The rest are identikit politicians of various strengths and weaknesses and ideologies. Can you imagine Paxman asking Jarvis if he was tough enough?...

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This might be a look if people want to get a look at what Dan Jarvis stands for https://www.waterstones.com/book/why-vote-labour-2015/dan-jarvis/9781849547345 Foreword by Ed Miliband. Let's not forget that Ed appointed him to some pretty senior shadow cabinet posts so they obviously have a fair amo...

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I sympathise CJ/A I haven't read a paper, watched the news on TV or even looked at Twitter. I still can't bear it. And if I start talking about it to Mr Ohso, I get a huge knot of anger build up in my chest. I suppose it'll get better, but I can't get through, round or over it at present. Hello, oh...

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Mark Ferguson @Markfergusonuk · 1h 1 hour ago Hearing Mary Creagh is throwing her hat into the ring for Labour leader. More hats thrown than a fight in a hat shop at this rate Now she is good. Always on top of her brief. Very good speaker - articulate, well briefed as I said, and can properly do pa...

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Just reading the LL Who might be next? and saw this below the line "Doug Smith • an hour ago Dan Jarvis: "Difficult to pin down ideologically". Jarvis is a vice-chair of Progress - i.e. he's on the Blairite hard-Right of the Labour Party." I didn't know that, and not keen on goi...

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Thanks everyone but the bad news is not mine. The bad news belongs to my ex-husband & to my children. They are the ones hurting with that news, not me. I hurt for my boys because as a Mum, that's what we do ;) My hurt is for the loss of a damn good man that had a vision for the country in which...

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On reflection if he isn't a rabid Blairite it has to be Jarvis. Why, because we have to energise the UKIP tendency on the left and Jarvis will do that. The rest are identikit politicians of various strengths and weaknesses and ideologies. Can you imagine Paxman asking Jarvis if he was tough enough?...

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I know next to nothing of Dan Jarvis but my instinct is that if Labour are looking for 'something completely different' he would probably fit the bill. He would be very hard for the MSM to attack, being one of 'our boys', which would be extremely useful for Labour as the unremitting media onslaught...

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@PK Sorry about your sad news. @CitizenJ/A Did you find the link you were looking for? The rest of you beautiful people. So many times over the last few days, I've found myself trying to click like! Your posts have been uplifting, insightful and encouraging and just plain lovely, so consider yourse...

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From last March... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/11502940/Can-steely-Dan-Jarvis-be-the-next-Labour-leader.html Steely-eyed messenger of death And another positive - the Daily Heil don't like him. :D Yeah, but it says (not that you can trust The Telegraph) Jarvis is a spoiler...

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I know next to nothing of Dan Jarvis but my instinct is that if Labour are looking for 'something completely different' he would probably fit the bill. He would be very hard for the MSM to attack, being one of 'our boys', which would be extremely useful for Labour as the unremitting media onslaught...

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PorFavor wrote:
JustMom wrote:'morning everyone, what do you all think of caroline flint as leader ?
Hello!

Are we pre-watershed, still?

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And the media are already muck-stirring. :evil: "Go back to Blairite values" and "Will David Milliband aim for Leadership?" If those are the answers then the question is total shite. :roll: I'm fed up of people telling Labour what to do. Blairite values are Tory values and we've...

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It's giving me a new headache tbh. In this media age do we go more by head than heart ? Jarvis comes across well from what I've seen, and if we are leaching votes in the North someone who won't get written off by people who've shifted to UKIP must be an advantage. But Jarvis would wind up the green...

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And the media are already muck-stirring. :evil: "Go back to Blairite values" and "Will David Milliband aim for Leadership?" If those are the answers then the question is total shite. :roll: Agree 100% Swarthlander. But I fear this is where we will end up, and we, the grass roots...

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It's giving me a new headache tbh. In this media age do we go more by head than heart ? Jarvis comes across well from what I've seen, and if we are leaching votes in the North someone who won't get written off by people who've shifted to UKIP must be an advantage. But Jarvis would wind up the green...

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Oops, manners! :oops: Happy birthday howsillyofme1! :D Is there any chance of the 'thanks' button coming back? There were so many posts yesterday that required a 'Hear! Hear! Especially the ones telling Rustyshite to Fuck the Fuck Off. To all of you Thanks! Hear, hear! And, for the record, I'm not ...

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Swarthlander wrote:
yahyah wrote:Have seen a tweet saying Alan Johnson rules out Labour leadership bid.
Thank the gods.

The past has to be ditched. We need completely new blood.

Sadly, it doesn't look as though we are getting new blood.

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Happy Birthday, howsillyofme1

Have a great day.

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Thanks for the article yahyah - but link seems to be broken In amongst the excitement yesterday I managed to miss Rusty's little intervention. What a pleasant fellow he is. I found myself wondering whether I would have allowed myself to gloat over right wingers in that sort of way in the event of a...

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Good morning. :D Chins up, try to stay positive, onwards and upwards.... oh bollocks! I read in yesterday's posts that Ed Miliband should stand for leader again. IMHO that won't happen and it just wouldn't work. He had a good try but unfortunately he failed. To be real and honest, in politics he wo...

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Night all.

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Night TGS and PF. Have a restful sleep

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Aaaaarrrrggggh. Not sure I want to know anything about this right now. Not sure I'd want to back any of the people named either. Well, some of them I'm sure I wouldn't want to back. Well, that's ruined my day even more. If it's Cooper or Umunna, then the Labour party is finished. :( Murdoch really ...

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Many are failing to realise that a big chunk of those we once thought of as solid Labour voters are now extremely right wing in some of their views. A lot of working class Labour hate the system where single mothers get a house, have most of their rent paid, and then frequently go on to have a coup...

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George Eaton @georgeeaton · 29m 29 minutes ago Labour leadership: Burnham, Cooper, Jarvis and Umunna all standing according to sources, and possibly Kendall. Aaaaarrrrggggh. Not sure I want to know anything about this right now. Not sure I'd want to back any of the people named either. Well, some o...

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TheGrimSqueaker wrote:J K Rowling slapping down the Nats!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/05 ... 1431110063

Dr Brian May, too.

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I've been seriously thinking about one of those petitions (change or whatever) if we could get a good person to start it and we could get load of names - could we get him back? Or am I being silly? I don't think you are. Maybe he just doesn't have the appetite for it any more but who knows; give it...

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Many are failing to realise that a big chunk of those we once thought of as solid Labour voters are now extremely right wing in some of their views. A lot of working class Labour hate the system where single mothers get a house, have most of their rent paid, and then frequently go on to have a coup...

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Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but allow me one, Murphy saying that homes in London would pay for Scottish nurses was a mistake, now if another said mansions would get taxed to pay for affordable homes in the south east that would have been more palatable. Scotland has more per head than any other...

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I don't know if you saw my edit added to an earlier post (below). If so, I apologise for the repeat but I think it needed to be said. There's no hope if crowing and gloating are to be the tactics employed for shaping Labour's future. [from me (PorFavor) to SpinningHugo] I appreciate that you and I ...

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abby #ThankYouEd ‏@twcuddleston · 58s58 seconds ago Hi we're the #milifandom and for our audition we'll be singing "I want you back" by the Jackson 5 #ThankYouEd The girl is a force of nature. Stuck two fingers up to Murdoch and Mensch, created a movement and is now leading a call to ask ...

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Hi Rebecca, hi Dreamer, hi everyone. Thanks for the warm welcome. Will be in and out, depending on what mood this damn laptop is in. I know he was seen as a divisive figure, but I've always had a soft spot for old Hugh (Ed reminded me so much of him). Just remember: our Labour party has survived a ...

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Good evening everyone. Long-time "lurker" here, hope you don't mind my popping in. . . It has been a terrible day. That exit poll last night was like a kick in the stomach. As some have said, it feels like a death in the family. It really does. Going into work today, knowing that some of ...

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There are people that you feel you can get behind and work with (and I would gladly do so when that person becomes evident). But there are people you find inspirational and with whom you have an affinity. Ed Miliband is, for me, one of the latter - so much so that he motivated me, a lapsed (actuall...

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Been & finally collected my car. Eaten dinner. Read all the posts here & still feel like crap so I'm shutting my laptop down for the night but before I go I want to leave you with this gorgeous photo of Ed & Justine taken on the campaign bus. I will miss Ed dreadfully & the candidat...

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All right, after suggesting that we have more than enough analysis, I see there are people who want to completely trash everything and either start again or go back to 1994, so I'm chipping in to set out my particular stall. Here's where I think Labour could have done something different/better: 1)...

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Apart from 2010 (29.1%) Labour's vote share in this election (30.5%) was the lowest since 1922. We needed a bigger tent people. We need to realise that the entire Miliband project was a disastrous mistake. Tents don't get much bigger than One Nation. The public preferred Labour's policy platform, e...

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I am so pissed. All those Tweets from the Police. Fire Service. Lifeboats. Armed services. NHS. Disabled organisations, the young, those on ZH, low paid, self employed, high rents, foodbank users, teachers. The list is endless. The sheer numbers of disaffected should have swept Ed into power. Excus...

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Generation Rent, if you didn't vote Labour you've scuppered yourself. And the same goes for public sector workers, the low paid,... I am so pissed. All those Tweets from the Police. Fire Service. Lifeboats. Armed services. NHS. Disabled organisations, the young, those on ZH, low paid, self employed...

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I'm running on empty right now, so probably won't post much more today. But this worries me. Everyone seems to have their own interpretation of why Labour failed - the media is filling up with ideas and sage statements about where they went wrong and what they need to do next. Labour needs space to...

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And so it begins ...... Generation Rent, if you didn't vote Labour you've scuppered yourself. And the same goes for public sector workers, the low paid,... I am so pissed. All those Tweets from the Police. Fire Service. Lifeboats. Armed services. NHS. Disabled organisations, the young, those on ZH,...

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66% turn out? I don't understand The polling booths have never been busier, had to queue at ours (unheard of in the 25 years I've lived here) and not far from us they had to bring in an extra booths to cope. A look at yesterdays AS blog shows the same queuing all over the country. That's odd. They ...

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So basically, if the sodding LibDems hadn't basically set themselves up as Tories things would probably have been very different. Not sure I accept this interpretation. The Tories gained seats from Labour too, and held where they should have lost. The Labour gains and losses from/to the Tories more...

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Hearing talk of 'shy Tories' on social media. Apparently it's the fault of the nasty lefties for having a go at people sharing Tory propaganda on Facebook. No, I don't buy it either. I don't think the shy Tories necessarily use social media in that way. Besides there is a shed load of right wing pr...

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