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StephenDolan

I wonder what Cohen thinks about this now?

StephenDolan

My first laugh of the day.

Tim Harford @TimHarford

Wonder if this result will be more damaging for Labour than Tories. Losing but thinking you've won is not a good place from which to learn.
10:48 AM · Jun 12, 2017

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Rory Cellan-Jones @ruskin147

Political pundits are brilliant - they utterly failed to predict the election result but they already know why it happened & what comes next
7:31 AM · Jun 10, 2017

Quite.

StephenDolan

I hope that there's a push to keep the new young voters and activists engaged, encouraged to join the party and keep their enthusiasm for politics up. They played such a big part of what happened, they should take pride in their actions.

StephenDolan

Methodology - using the same turnout/demographic models as for 2015 meant that the youth vote was underrepresented (plus Brexit overlay) Even worse than that. The models were tweaked after the examination of their 2015 miss,adding an extra boost for the Tories and disbelieving the certainty of firs...

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I'm confused: RBKC‏Verified account @RBKC 1h1 hour ago General election: Kensington Constituency count will recommence in the Great Hall, Kensington Town Hall, 6pm today . https://goo.gl/He1K8M" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (my emphasis) It was reported on WATO that the c...

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No offence meant SH, but what was the last political prediction you made that came true?

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Morning all.

Politics, bloody hell.

Glad to see you here pk1, here's hoping we as a party (and as a forum!) can now pull together. 40% on a good turnout, that's a lot of Labour voters.

Sturgeon must be happy that the focus will be on May, that was an awful night for the SNP.

StephenDolan

And with that, question time can no longer justify having a Ukip representative. Marvellous. Right, that's me done for now, up for work soon

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Chester Labour hold

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Sturgeon, what just happened?

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refitman wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:NEWCASTLE: LABOUR HOLD

Liberal Democrats - 1.812
Conservative 9,134
UKIP 1.482
Labour 24071
Labour increase their majority by 2k+.

Although this is a bad thing according to the Beeb (down on exit poll).

Indeed. This is a bad result according to Kelner.

StephenDolan

Temulkar wrote:So, unelectable... Discuss.

UKIP are going to replace Labour in the north and the Lib Dems, being the only remain party will take a huge chunk out of Labour. Labour will get low twenties.

Or something.

StephenDolan

*popcorn*

StephenDolan

Hi all. I hope the result tonight is less painful than expected. If nothing else, the shine has definitely come off Theresa May and she won't have the widespread trust of the UK population again. Corbyn has headed a magnificent campaign and I hope the PLP realises how destructive another attempt to...

StephenDolan

When can we expect the turnout estimates? Alas they are rarely reliable. I recall both the talk of "record breaking" turnouts two years ago and the speculation it would be the all-time lowest in last year's London Mayor election (in actual fact, it was the highest) Though anecdotal eviden...

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When can we expect the turnout estimates?

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A little light relief. Can we have your guesses as to which (2015)Labour MPs will be the first to call (a, via Twitter and b, via live election coverage) for Corbyn to resign?

Bryant and Phillips are my picks.

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Osborne and Balls with Bradbury tonight. I think I'll swerve ITV.

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RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

Polling station has been in our nursery for a few years now

That's what I like to hear, getting children engaged in politics early on.

StephenDolan

Morning all.

Damp and warm here. Good day for slugs.

StephenDolan

John McDonnell was on the World at One a few minutes ago and he described Jeremy Corbyn as the strongest and most decent leader Labour has had, possibly for generations. Why do they keep doing this? Why do they keep alienating long time Labour supporters by suggesting the party and leaders they hav...

StephenDolan

Holy crap. Just seen DFH and his twitter trolling of Merseyside (from yesterday?). What a Ted.

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Ah, so that's where he's been, not a million miles away from me.

Philip Hammond @PhilipHammondUK

Stopped in Wirral South to support @AdamSykesWirral and met Head Teacher at Thornton Hough Primary #VoteConservative June 8

StephenDolan

Still, if Abbott is withdrawing from the front line indefinitely that removes a reason (or, maybe more accurately, excuse) that some have given for not voting Labour....... Why would anyone think she was doing that? A very odd suggestion. She isn't very able. None of the shadow cabinet (or cabinet)...

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Still, if Abbott is withdrawing from the front line indefinitely that removes a reason (or, maybe more accurately, excuse) that some have given for not voting Labour....... Ah, but the "I'd never vote for Labour if Abbott was going to be a minister" people will be moving on to their next ...

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Who's out tomorrow and is there likely to be anyone here tomorrow evening?

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Now reported that Abbott is withdrawing from the front bench indefinitely. All the - often downright nasty - abuse she has received might have had an effect? Who knew?? Eyebrows were raised when she was first appointed shadow home secretary, for good reason I feel. Loyalty alone isn't reason enough...

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Geoff Smith @geoffs11
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Most are more than happy to put Trump / Brexit / May / Le Pen / Wilders on the same axis. Corbyn *can* stop May so let's support him.

John Rentoul @JohnRentoul

Replying to @geoffs11 and @davidshere
Yes but they are mistaken. May is preferable to Corbyn.

:lol!:

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Humphrys. How many ways do I despise thee?

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Weather is looking awful for Thursday. Bloody hell.

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May and Johnson indicating that the Tory playbook now consists of lying and repetition of over Shoot to kill. What a positive campaign she's ran.

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Comments are open on the Graun liveblog now.

Thankfully, given the crap Johnson is spouting.

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Diane Abbott, the shadow home secretary, was due to take part in a Woman’s Hour election debate at 9am with Amber Rudd, the home secretary, and others. But she has just pulled out on the grounds that she’s unwell. (Politics Live, Guardian) I'm not saying anything - other than to say that I'm sorry ...

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Morning all. A great piece and essential reading for many here and the commentariat. 'We were told Corbyn was ‘unelectable’. His fightback shows he’s anything but.' https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/06/jeremy-corbyn-unelectable-political-climate" onclick="window.open(this....

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And I see that the clipped Corbyn / Kuenssberg shoot to kill has been doing the rounds again on social media today.

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rachel younger @rachyoungeritv BREAKING: @jeremycorbyn tells me Theresa May should resign as Prime Minister over her record regarding police funding I like this aggressive pushing back by Labour. In 2015 etc there'd be an attempt to defend from what had been said about him/the party by Cameron, Fall...

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Britain Elects @britainelects
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Westminster voting intention:

CON: 45% (-)
LAB: 34% (-)
LDEM: 8% (-1)
UKIP: 5% (-)
GRN: 3% (-)

(via @ICMResearch / 02-04Jun)

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NonOxCol wrote:Guess what the 4th most watched video on the BBC website is?

It's only Kuenssberg's formally censured shoot-to-kill interview with Corbyn.

Unamended. Unedited. With accompanying text that still misrepresents him.

Yes, I couldn't believe that earlier. CCHQ have been busy.

StephenDolan

London Bridge incident.

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Alan Johnson, blimey.

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Well. Another outlier.

Britain Elects @britainelects

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 45% (-4)
LAB: 40% (+6)
LDEM: 7% (-)

(via @IpsosMori)
Chgs. w/ mid May

StephenDolan

Question Time will have to be ultra careful there's nothing prejudicial said about these charges tonight.

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I can just picture Crick having a cheeky grin about now.

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Charges against Little look really bad?

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Good news. Great timing.

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The attempts by the Currant Bun and Torygraph to pretend Jez bombed in last night's debate are hilarious even by their normally debased standards. I mean, even some of their own readers must be smelling a rat by now? Apparently Norman Smith has argued (on Victoria Live) that the best performers wer...

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The attempts by the Currant Bun and Torygraph to pretend Jez bombed in last night's debate are hilarious even by their normally debased standards. I mean, even some of their own readers must be smelling a rat by now? No real interest in politics by the former, cognitive dissonance is strong in the ...

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