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rebeccariots2 wrote:@ FTN contingent living in Wales - well south and west Wales - anyone thinking of going to the Swansea Labour leadership hustings on 5th July?

I could be up for that Rebecca, in London at the moment, pm you when I get back to Wales tomorrow.

Anyway, found this on the weekend, whilst browsing another site. Any similarity between a cult and the SNP is purely coincidental and on my part unintentional. Long documentary but very good.

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I have just read a post btl on the Guardian that could have come from the lips of Jeremy Hunt or David Cameron, it came from an SNP supporter and it concerned education and health in Wales. My dislike for them is turning to hatred. Two cheeks of same arse, the SNP and Tories. It's very depressing i...

I have just read a post btl on the Guardian that could have come from the lips of Jeremy Hunt or David Cameron, it came from an SNP supporter and it concerned education and health in Wales. My dislike for them is turning to hatred.

Two cheeks of same arse, the SNP and Tories.

Excuse the typos and appalling grammar on my last venting of spleen, on my phone, pathetic excuse but it will have to do.

And don't get me started on the f*****g SNP. I apologise & understand. I've posted quite enough on that subject today. Wasn't have a go at you JA, honestly, my head has been under the parapet, pillow for nearly three weeks, when it comes out from those comfort zones it is met with headlines whi...

And don't get me started on the f*****g SNP.

Sadly AK we shouldn't be talking about the least bad option, speaks volumes that we are. I agree Burnham has come on the last 5 years but the ridiculous Mid Staffs crap and lies will be a millstone around his neck, it's all so bloody depressing.

Three weeks on I am still uninspired by any of the leadership candidates, I still hope that the one who comes out on top will be a stop gap leader, until, hopefully Starmer comes through, or Jarvis changes his mind, with hopefully improved family circumstances. As it stands now my vote will probably...

I just done a post, quoted Rebecca and it come up under her name!

No idea how it happened, sorry. Think I better go to bed?

Ohso and JA, ta very much, getting a tad frustrated with the language leadership contenders are using, no doubt the "aspiration" critique is aimed at the south east, well guess what, there are those living there who want the same as others in other parts of the country, a reasonable wage, ...

Jesus Christ! Just read the Guardian piece about Kendall, someone please direct her in the direction of the Tory party.

If Liz Kendall wants my vote she's going the wrong way about it. I have no aspiration and I do not generate wealth, I work, most days bloody hard. I also work in the public sector these days, much maligned of course and I notice the creeping in of "the UK is a 7 day a week economy" so no d...

Funny I just mentioned anger in the post I was writing as you posted this ! :lol: When I posted it I hadn't seen / he hadn't posted the rest in the series of consecutive tweets ... he's obviously very angry about things ... he calls it a self inflicted defeat. I like Jamie Reed's humour and tweetin...

Whoever is selected, from the names currently known and bandied about I suspect it could well be a short term leader. None induce any great enthusiasm from where I stand, and that includes Burnham, I groaned when heard "I can reunite the country" statement. Jarvis when ruling himself out m...

Almost feel unloyal with all this touting of names and various jobs, a feel of "the king is dead, long live the king".

Kevin Brennan as Welsh Sec too, bit more abrasive than Smith, Smith can go into another department.

I rate Smith but at the same time I want a more challenging figure to take on the utterly useless bunch of Tories here peddling the same old crap.

I'd like Starmer as Home Sec, he's more than capable, may put out a few noses so soon after being elected but he's more than a match for May, use him.

Yahyah

good to see you..

AndrewSparrow ‏@AndrewSparrow 4m4 minutes ago Shirley Williams says constituency party funding rules allowed big party like Tories to buy the election - http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2015/may/10/election-aftermath-live-nicola-sturgeon-and-chuka-umunna-on-the-andrew-marr-show#block-5...

Our new Justice Secretary, hope Khan or Keir Starmer, if fast tracked smgrind him into the ground.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... nging.html

Charlotte Church would relish the chance to lawfully smash Katie Hopkins face in.

Them Cardiff girls, don't mess with them.

If we think we had it bad, and of course we did over at LDV there's a new blog up "GE 2015, where did it all go wrong" I won't laugh, cos it's too close to the bone.

Chris Leslie will no doubt take over Ball's brief, does anyone expect any major changes apart from that? Another fall out from Thursday has been the effectiveness of social media, Labour won that hands down, but were we living in a bubble of our own making, the twitter campaigns, were they ultimatel...

McBride has a piece in the ST today "farewell to Ed Balls, master economist, cake baker and a good mate" glad I can't read it, I'd probably cry.

Ed FFS, three days on I still can't believe it and take it in.

Eoin Clarke is an idiot who does more harm than good.

There's tribal and there's making a tit of yourself.

John Ashworth calling for leadership "contest" to go well into September.

Here we go again, mistakes from 5 years ago being repeated.

I agree with you Tiz. Abuse hurling in any direction is spectacularly unhelpful - but let's not pretend it is all one way. We are all capable of flinging insults & I've seen it (and probably participated in it too) both on here & on twitter but it achieves nothing except to increase feeling...

And UKIP took 7,951 That is where Labour's problem is - if only you and they would realise it. Meanwhile, by hurling abuse at Greens, you are risking any chance of a future where we fight together to get rid of the Tories. Which is indeed an act of selfish, self important, sheer bloody don't-give-a...

Paul Flynn, hardly a died in the wool Blairite has come out, already for Chuka Umuna.

And, now it starts. Please don't let there be a huge period of navel gazing, angst ridden articles, one after another. 6 weeks at the most.

Sturgeon continuing her "Westminster must listen to us" schtik.

Doesn't she realise she's more irrelevant now than she was on Wednesday.

The tune she's playing won't be long before it's worn out.

Ok, the wing of the party I belong to has had someone express the point more clearly than me on the policy mix "policies, even if individually popular, that, taken together, send us too far left." http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/09/tony-blair-what-labour-must-do-next-ele...

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but allow me one, Murphy saying that homes in London would pay for Scottish nurses was a mistake, now if another said mansions would get taxed to pay for affordable homes in the south east that would have been more palatable. Scotland has more per head than any other ...

I wish in hindsight Scotland had gone last September, it certainly wouldn't that've been any worse last night. Continually bleating what a rotten deal they have had. So has virtually every region.

Maybe know we can understand why Ed was so vehement about no deals with the SNP. The very idea was toxic to a mass of voters. And yet it didn't matter how many times Miliband said there would be no coalition both Sturgeon and the Tories kept bringing it up, knowing uncertainty and opposition to a d...

Personally I'd be quite happy with Tom Watson being deputy PM. Someone willing to get stuck in, with the odd two footed tackle.

The BBC can be cut into little pieces and sold for a pittance as far as I care.

And now Grant Shapps crawls out from under his stone.

It's raining, I want to get into the car and drive to the beach and get soaked in the rain. But too knackered to do so.

I hope this honest and open debate doesn't take 6 months.

Sorry, made a cock up of post, I'm fucked, Irrancca Davies uncle held Gower for years..

Yes he is, his uncle held Gower for decades.

Lady, my membership has just plopped through the letterbox too.

As I have said, I live virtually next door to a polling station. Yesterday appeared very busy, I saw lots of youngsters turning up to vote and a thought crossed my mind that I may not be totally good for Labour. These were people who may never have been in a union, never have had a chance of joining...

I was 19 in 1992: it was my first vote. I was a student, and therefore insulated from some of the despair. Can someone who was a bit older tell me just how much worse this is, in rough percentage terms? Because it's off my personal calibration scale. I'm a few years older than you, '87 was my first...

Clegg leaves the room, according to Steve Richards with tears streaming down his face.

There will be a lot of that in the next five years, from people who aren't so well insulated as Clegg.

Clegg resigns and cites "friends and colleagues" who lost due to forces beyond their control. Bollocks, they had control but failed to use it. Too enamoured with power, intoxicated by it, patted on the head by Tories, thrown scraps from the table. The differentiation wasn't enough, they ar...

And why is there is a bulk of people who wouldn't vote Tory if they life depended on it, but quite happily vote UKIP?

Labour lost the Gower by 27 votes, TUSC got something like 120.

Well done. As for Ed Balls, I give up, I really do.

This can't get any worse.

What a night, even in most scenarios it wasn't this bad, the country is fractured, for good, for some, the plan was executed perfectly.

This is worse than 92. Worse that I believed things had changed, that people were more sceptical of the media.

For all the polls, utter crap, the twitter campaigns, endless retweets of how well things were going on in constituencies, I wasn't optimistic but I didn't think it would be this bad.

Dr Eoin Clarke is a fool, a tribal fool, I am a tribal fool at times but at least I know when things are shit.

He's insisting Cameron is finished, I wish it was the fucking case. A few careers have finished tonight, fat Dave's isn't one of them.

I seem to be watching the ITV coverage more than the others.

We need a few more results.

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