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Temulkar

No, you chose to attack me spuriously cos you dont like me, or what I say. I didnt attack anyone on this forum, my post wasn't inn reply to you or anyone else. it was a statement of four verifiable facts sourced from the MSM, and my interpretation. I mean at least show some fucking backbone and adm...

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When we found the evidence of the holocaust, we didnt need an investigation into responsibility, it was obvious. Yet we had an investigation, we had court cases, and we brought most of the perpetrators to justice. We could have just stuck them up against a wall and shot them out of hand, Stalin and ...

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I see the Guardian is now parroting Putin's propaganda about improving air defences. Damn these fake news sites....

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I'm not judging him against the current government, and I accept he's got better on the issue. But his historical commitment to it has been very weak, even though an important part of it has been the peace. Of course, I'm not blaming Corbyn for the idiot talk coming out of parts of Britain re Spain...

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And it looks like it may not even have deterred from more chem attacks. Rebeccariots2 APRIL 7, 2017 AT 4:21 PM Follow Joss Garman ✔ @jossgarman Reports of new Assad chemical attacks. https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/850381365963096064" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;...

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Now now, I was just going to say that this had been quite a good natured conversation today given the rather controversial subject....... Then the mods should bloody well step in. I was accused of something I didnt do, and the accuser has now lied about it, and then claimed it was a fucking metaphor.

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I thought you understood obvious metaphors as metaphors. My mistake, Mr Logic. You didn't say it was a metaphor until you were faced with your exact words. Until that point you were insistent that you didnt say anything. When you say one thing and then claim that you didn't say it that's called 'ly...

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Tubby Isaacs wrote:Bollocks. You're doing what you always do. Accuse opponents of killing kids for fun.

No, Im accusing you of lying about statements I have made, something that you are compounding with every post.

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I see great reason to doubt what the Russians say, because they're strongman liars who are never going to admit someone's thrown a spanner in their works. Of course I didn't suggest you got it off Russia Today. "How unlike you to read out the Russian press release. More reliable than the "...

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I think "the Russians say" is you parroting what the Russians say, because you just said the Russians said it. and took it at face value. I mean, they're not a bunch of fascist liars, are they? I wasn't thinking of Corbyn, I was thinking of you. As it happens, I prefer Corbyn being cautio...

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I see great reason to doubt what the Russians say, because they're strongman liars who are never going to admit someone's thrown a spanner in their works. Of course I didn't suggest you got it off Russia Today. "How unlike you to read out the Russian press release. More reliable than the "...

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I see the Associated Press are parroting Putin now, bloody StW sympathizers and Putin bots. How dare they haven't they heard Tubby's pronouncement that to report on a Russian statement is tantamount to treason against NATO???? The Associated Press‏ Verified account @AP 5h 5 hours ago BREAKING: Russ...

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I see great reason to doubt what the Russians say, because they're strongman liars who are never going to admit someone's thrown a spanner in their works. Of course I didn't suggest you got it off Russia Today. "How unlike you to read out the Russian press release. More reliable than the "...

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I see the Associated Press are parroting Putin now, bloody StW sympathizers and Putin bots. How dare they haven't they heard Tubby's pronouncement that to report on a Russian statement is tantamount to treason against NATO???? The Associated Press‏ Verified account @AP 5h 5 hours ago BREAKING: Russi...

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"There's an organization that makes countries do exactly what he wants- sit down and avoid conflict by diplomacy. Shame he didn't give it his full support, eh? But he isn't the issue here." Yeah there is, its called the United Nations... show me where corbyn has ever suggested not working ...

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I think "the Russians say" is you parroting what the Russians say, because you just said the Russians said it. and took it at face value. I mean, they're not a bunch of fascist liars, are they? I wasn't thinking of Corbyn, I was thinking of you. As it happens, I prefer Corbyn being cautio...

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Funny, I've found plenty of people who were against bombing in 2014 who are considering it now. So it isn't a case of "the same warmongers and child murderers", no. Russians in "this is no problem for us" shock. So you agree with Tim :toss: Yeah, you go for that, we have seen wh...

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Funny, I've found plenty of people who were against bombing in 2014 who are considering it now. So it isn't a case of "the same warmongers and child murderers", no. Russians in "this is no problem for us" shock. So you agree with Tim :toss: Yeah, you go for that, we have seen wh...

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1. The strike has no legal justification in international law. 2. The Russians have stated that they will upgrade Syrian air defence in response. 3. Senior staff and vital equipment were removed from the air base because they were warned by the US administration via Russia 2 hours before the strike...

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And let us not forget that our government sold the syrian regime the components to make the sarin - in 2013!

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1. The strike has no legal justification in international law. 2. The Russians have stated that they will upgrade Syrian air defence in response. 3. Senior staff and vital equipment were removed from the air base because they were warned by the US administration via Russia 2 hours before the strike....

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Alice Hooker Stroud steps down as leader of the Greens in Wales. Cant fit the job in with work, and its an unpaid role... Im firmly of the opinion that Welsh independence as far as the Green party here goes is holding us back. It may have worked in Scotland, but I dont think its working here.

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NOw I have to do some work on Georgian cobblers and rights of way campaigners, but I shall just leave this snippet here... If true, it sorts of blows a hole in the no conspiracy theory... And text messages are pretty damaging evidence... https://skwawkbox.org/2017/02/28/exclusive-moderate-labour-mp...

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NOw I have to do some work on Georgian cobblers and rights of way campaigners, but I shall just leave this snippet here... If true, it sorts of blows a hole in the no conspiracy theory... And text messages are pretty damaging evidence... https://skwawkbox.org/2017/02/28/exclusive-moderate-labour-mp-...

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You are confusing causation (eg "A would not have happened but for B") with responsibility (which can be established even where B would have happened anyway). So, those Labour MPs who voted for brexit are responsible for the consequences, even though Brexit would have happened but for the...

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Ummm. No he wasn't. What do you think the trial at Nuremberg was about? What facts do you think were being established? The Nuremburg trials happened because of the political will for them. Goering for all his sins was convicted on all counts because he was part of the government, and the remaining...

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So, your claim is that if State's troops torture someone, that makes the Prime Minister of that state guilty of a war crime? I don't think you know anything about international criminal law at all. I also don't understand why you persist in making a claim you must know is ridiculous. Goring wasn't ...

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Leaders and heads of state also bear responsibility, Hugo, I thought you claimed legal expertise? Goring didn't gas a single jew, didn't fire a single shot in aggression; he was still responsible. So, your claim is that if State's troops torture someone, that makes the Prime Minister of that state ...

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And we have misconduct in office and impeachment in this country, although the lattre is a joke, and for legal brains I think Lord Macdonald counts. Lord Macdonald said: "In behaving in this disreputable way to win tainted legal backing for massive armed conflict, it seems very likely that Mr B...

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I am afraid you are just making those up without properly itemising specific offences. That isn't how criminal law works. Are you proposing thee are UK offences, or under international criminal law. Presumably the latter? So, taking one, "war crimes". Which war crimes are you claiming Bla...

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And can I just point out taht nuremburg and tokyo are the basis of our international law on this, so...

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Which crime do you consider Blair to have committed? I think that the invasion of Iraq was unlawful, as contrary to international law. I marched agaisnt it at the time. You cannot go from that proposition to the conclusion that Blair personally committed a crime. One of the many idiocies of Corbyn ...

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I doubt a Guardian paywall is imminent. People won't pay for this https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/28/dont-blame-corbyn-sins-blair-brown-new-labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; What is the limitation period on blaming Blair? There is no statute of limit...

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Image replaced, thanks for pointing that out, I chose something considerably less graphic than most - its rather difficult to find one that is suitable for a public forum.

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Google image search indicates that image is from the Sabra and Shatila massacre that happened on 18 September 1982 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I certainly apologise for that I merely googled, and should have check...

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Lest we forget Blair's legacy; Lest we forget Hugo's hero's crime - never rehabilitated. https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/2/7/1391787490146/babt-pilger-011.jpg?w=1200&h=630&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=crop&crop=faces%2Centropy&bm=norma...

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I doubt a Guardian paywall is imminent. People won't pay for this https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/28/dont-blame-corbyn-sins-blair-brown-new-labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; What is the limitation period on blaming Blair? There is no statute of limit...

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Rob I take it back you were right. Sigh, it was going really well in here this morning, interesting posts friendly conversation and now here we are again. Im off till later when the trolls have fucked off again. Amazing how when peace almost breaks out they arrive with their bile. edited to add. An...

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Rob I take it back you were right. Sigh, it was going really well in here this morning, interesting posts friendly conversation and now here we are again. Im off till later when the trolls have fucked off again. Amazing how when peace almost breaks out they arrive with their bile. edited to add. And...

Temulkar

Quite. Millions of the little rats, undermining the Leader. We need to hunt down Emmanuel Goldstein and eliminate him. You are a thoroughly nasty piece of work Hugo. I thought your invocation of Niemoller was bad, but this is a new low. I suppose we imagined the 4chan crowd who taunted Lily Allen o...

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Every day according to Mandleson. Quite. Millions of the little rats, undermining the Leader. We need to hunt down Emmanuel Goldstein and eliminate him. You are a thoroughly nasty piece of work Hugo. I thought your invocation of Niemoller was bad, but this is a new low. I suppose we imagined the 4c...

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Be vigilant https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/836327062327656448" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Thanks for that, some useful info there. Have seen an increase in this sort of thing lately, so it makes sense that it's orchestrated. Yes. Bitterites everywhere. Plott...

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UKIP has done iits job, most of the tory kippers have already switched back to Theresa - decline in the kipper vote is mirrored by the rise in the tory vote i the dreaded polls - its the labour kippers left there now. I actually think that there is a concerted internal effort to break the party apar...

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HS2 no corruption whatsoever.... https://www.ft.com/content/cfeff65c-f69 ... 969e0d3b65" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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citizenJA wrote:Labour is a political party not a religion
I don't need to like the current Labour party leader to continue supporting and voting for Labour

'Labour is a crusade or it is nothing.'

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The soft coup is underway! http://labourbriefing.squarespace.com/home/2017/2/26/the-soft-coup-is-under-way" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Brilliantly funny. Made my day. Almost as good as that laughable piece by Ellie Mae last night. Problem is, it's true isn't it, that's ...

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HindleA wrote:Hope everything went o.k.

Yeah, it'll be fine I think.

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I met Gerald Kaufman at a dinner party twenty years ago, I didn't realise he was in his 60s then, he seemed so much younger, and was very funny. Annother by election, I wonder if Paul Nuttall will dare to run. .Anyway after a day in Prince Phillip hospital, I can confirm that the NHS in Wales is fu...

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I met Gerald Kaufman at a dinner party twenty years ago, I didn't realise he was in his 60s then, he seemed so much younger, and was very funny. Annother by election, I wonder if Paul Nuttall will dare to run. Anyway after a day in Prince Phillip hospital, I can confirm that the NHS in Wales is fuck...

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