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by TechnicalEphemera
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 10:28 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45529

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

It is an utter irrelevance whether people here believe May or Corbyn would be the better PM. The public have definitively spoken (in a two horse race Corbyn came third). The Labour leader faced his lowest rating yet when the public were questioned on who would make a better prime minister: Him or Th...
by TechnicalEphemera
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 7:16 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45529

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

I'm not keen on Trident either. But it's popular- even in Scotland, if you ask "what if nobody else is disarming?" you get a majority in favour. Shifting that is very difficult, and I fear, a "Nixon to China" issue, where only somebody formerly a strong "cold warrior",...
by TechnicalEphemera
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 7:11 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45529

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

The bigger problem on defence was the ISIS question, the answer to which is yes, which can then be qualified with caveats about risk to innocent people. What he actually said gave an unfortunate impression. Trident is just a bit daft, he knows the policy, he will have known the line to take and yet ...
by TechnicalEphemera
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 5:08 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45529

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

Calling bull***t on that Welsh poll, just saying. What is interesting about that Welsh poll is really that it fits with what we know. Labour's vote is holding up, just a small dip. The Tory lead is being created by the collapse of Ukips. Yes, but a degree of that UKIP vote was Labour and has moved ...
by TechnicalEphemera
Mon 24 Apr, 2017 5:05 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45529

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

Calling bull***t on that Welsh poll, just saying. I'm not, yet. Labour's "in power" in Wales, for which it gets constant shit all the time. The Tories are effectively running as they do in England, but able to dodge responsibility for the state of public services. Seems entirely possible ...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sun 23 Apr, 2017 12:07 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47041

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Its maybe a useful reminder that pollsters do quite a few surveys that don't get published, though.
But surely if you baseline from an unpublished survey you need to publish it.
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 22 Apr, 2017 11:59 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47041

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

That is compared with the last public Survation poll, which was a while ago. The headline is based on an unpublished survey of theirs I think? So what you are telling me here is that the MoS is both clueless and dishonest. Hot Diggity I need to wire that info straight over to the BBC so they can ad...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 22 Apr, 2017 11:49 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47041

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

Blatantly stealing Smithson again.
Survation PHONE poll in Mail on Sunday has very different picture
CON 40 (+2) LAB 29 (=) LD 11 (+1) UKIP 11 (-2)
So far from the Tory lead being slashed on tax U turn it has increased by 2 points.

Different methodology, but similar trends.
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 22 Apr, 2017 11:43 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47041

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

I'm basing that supposition on UKIP and the LibDems effectively swapping places more than the Tory lead, tbh. Who knows, there seems to be a whole random set of choices being made on methodology. I would have thought herding unlikely. Mike Smithson isn't a Corbyn fan, although I suspect people here...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 22 Apr, 2017 9:56 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47041

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

Fairly obvious too that Opinium have changed their methodology so that they can "herd" with the others. Maybe, or maybe sampling error in their previous poll. One interesting sanity check will arrive in the locals (not sure I remember locals before a general election before, but it must h...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 22 Apr, 2017 9:51 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47041

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/22/mike-pence-in-australia-says-us-and-allies-ready-to-tackle-north-korea Mike Pence in Australia says US and allies ready to tackle North Korea Presumably just as soon as they have worked out how to teleport battle fleets around the world in response to...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 22 Apr, 2017 9:44 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47041

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

CON: 45% (+7) LAB: 26% (-3) LDEM: 11% (+4) UKIP: 9% (-5) GRN: 3% (-2) (via Opinium / 19 - 20 Apr) Truth somewhere between the two i expect. No way the Tories are on 50% This is going to be a theme I suspect. However Labour Eoin assures me there will be a Labour majority of 100. The interesting thin...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 22 Apr, 2017 9:25 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47041

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/22/bhs-collapse-sets-trend-for-chain-of-uk-high-street-closures BHS crash sets trend for a chain of closures on UK high streets Not hard to see why, traditional retail chain stores increasingly look like they have had their day. Even clothing, which you...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 22 Apr, 2017 6:53 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47041

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

The FTPA should have made a no-confidence vote mandatory for any early dissolution. That would have least have put the onus more on May to explain herself. It did, other than for the unimaginable case where it was in 2/3 of MPs interests to have an election. Labour just didn't bother to force it do...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 22 Apr, 2017 5:42 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47041

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

Lots of risk for the opposition parties too, failing to form a government and having to an election called following that...how much more control would that hand Tory government? It wouldn't have made any difference. For comedy value Corbyn could have offered a grand coalition with Tory remain MPs ...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 22 Apr, 2017 4:43 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017
Replies: 177
Views: 47041

Re: Saturday 22nd & Sunday 23rd April 2017

Lots of risk for the opposition parties too, failing to form a government and having to an election called following that...how much more control would that hand Tory government? It wouldn't have made any difference. For comedy value Corbyn could have offered a grand coalition with Tory remain MPs ...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 22 Apr, 2017 12:01 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 21st April 2017
Replies: 94
Views: 28204

Re: Friday 21st April 2017

RogerOThornhill wrote:From tomorrow's times.

Brexit is going so well pt XXXVIII

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Well there is a shock, 500 million or 50 million hmmmm, choices choices.
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 21 Apr, 2017 10:53 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 21st April 2017
Replies: 94
Views: 28204

Re: Friday 21st April 2017

HindleA wrote:April 1st is being rapidly made redundant.
But we now have a productive use for our hunter/killer subs. Maybe we could crowdfund a mission.
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 21 Apr, 2017 10:24 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 21st April 2017
Replies: 94
Views: 28204

Re: Friday 21st April 2017

WTF.

You can't make this shit up (unless you are a Telegraph journalist possibly).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04 ... ler-essex/
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 21 Apr, 2017 10:15 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 21st April 2017
Replies: 94
Views: 28204

Re: Friday 21st April 2017

France Elects: New Odoxa poll carried out today Macron – 24.5% Le Pen – 23% Fillon - 19% Melenchon – 19% The dread prospect of a MLP-Fillon run-off seems to be receding. But no complacency! MLP Melenchon would be worse. Dumb and Dumber (with a racism element to add spite). I don't rule it out thoug...
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 21 Apr, 2017 9:48 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 21st April 2017
Replies: 94
Views: 28204

Re: Friday 21st April 2017

Ooooh. Len got lucky there. Perhaps the wind has changed. Don't know what to make of that, the trot got loads of votes , Len scraped home despite a tiny turnout. Even Unite activists have had enough of him. I will be interested to see what he does next, I have some suspicions it will be not entirel...
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 21 Apr, 2017 8:53 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 21st April 2017
Replies: 94
Views: 28204

Re: Friday 21st April 2017

Tory government snap election, not allowing some UK citizens abroad a vote on it, changes to EU nationals freedom of movement...this is bad news I thought this was just walking away from Cameron's rather dodgy let expats vote forever approach. At the time it was seen as a way of upping the Tory vot...
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 21 Apr, 2017 8:51 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 21st April 2017
Replies: 94
Views: 28204

Re: Friday 21st April 2017

PorFavor wrote:Never end a sentence with a proposition. . .
Oh I don't know, some of my most enjoyable experiences started that way.
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 21 Apr, 2017 8:49 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 21st April 2017
Replies: 94
Views: 28204

Re: Friday 21st April 2017

Ooooh. Len got lucky there. Perhaps the wind has changed. Don't know what to make of that, the trot got loads of votes, Len scraped home despite a tiny turnout. Even Unite activists have had enough of him. I will be interested to see what he does next, I have some suspicions it will be not entirely...
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 21 Apr, 2017 8:23 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 21st April 2017
Replies: 94
Views: 28204

Re: Friday 21st April 2017

Tory government snap election, not allowing some UK citizens abroad a vote on it, changes to EU nationals freedom of movement...this is bad news I thought this was just walking away from Cameron's rather dodgy let expats vote forever approach. At the time it was seen as a way of upping the Tory vot...
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 21 Apr, 2017 7:56 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 21st April 2017
Replies: 94
Views: 28204

Re: Friday 21st April 2017

http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2017/0290_16_2104.html SUMMARY NATIONAL MINIMUM WAGE The appeals consider the proper approach to the question whether employees who sleep-in in order to carry out duties if required engage in “time work” for the full duration of the night shift or whether they a...
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 21 Apr, 2017 7:45 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 21st April 2017
Replies: 94
Views: 28204

Re: Friday 21st April 2017

Well she claims to be a Christian and that is enough for the likes of Fraser (though didn't Mr Tony, who he so admires, do the same?) Looks like he wouldn't even vote for Blair these days.... https://twitter.com/giles_fraser/status/854430126158860290" onclick="window.open(this.href);retur...
by TechnicalEphemera
Thu 20 Apr, 2017 10:17 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 20th April 2017
Replies: 148
Views: 38409

Re: Thursday 20th April 2017

[youtube]R4NDLJow1ZE[/youtube] That just might have done the trick. (I'm a big Benny Hill fan, too. He was a comedy genius ahead of his time - although I gather it's not the done thing to say so.) There is no doubt that Benny Hill was a comedy genius well ahead of his time. He even wrote a poem abo...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 10:35 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 19th April 2017
Replies: 165
Views: 45374

Re: Wednesday 19th April 2017

Yougov Con 48 (+4) Lab 24 (+1) LD 12% Ukip 7% (-3) Other 9% April 18-19 This will narrow and is, literally, unbelievable. Why and Why? Miliband got 30% of the vote, Corbyn is less popular so 24 points isn't unreasonable. May has Cameron's base figure plus some Labour switchers plus a huge band of k...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 10:30 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 19th April 2017
Replies: 165
Views: 45374

Re: Wednesday 19th April 2017

If you haven't seen this it is remarkably funny given the worrying subject.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... mada-gaffe
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 10:01 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 19th April 2017
Replies: 165
Views: 45374

Re: Wednesday 19th April 2017

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/general-election-8-may-disabled-people-vote-against-tories-conservatives-dwp-scope-89-per-cent-a7691451.html There are 13 million disabled people in Britain. If we don't vote together, the DWP will tighten the screws on us 13 million is a Trump sized bigly voting...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 9:19 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 19th April 2017
Replies: 165
Views: 45374

Re: Wednesday 19th April 2017

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; The elections will be the test of to what degree pollsters have corrected the problems of 2015. The BPC inquiry into what went wrong at the general election concluded that the main problem was with sampling. Poll...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 9:13 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 19th April 2017
Replies: 165
Views: 45374

Re: Wednesday 19th April 2017

refitman wrote:Impressive that BBC news found only positive voices for May and negative for Corbyn, in Bolton.
It is an old trick, and I am not sure why they are allowed to do it. Asking random people opinions of things are by definition not representative of anything, yet somehow they use it as though they were.
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 12:54 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 19th April 2017
Replies: 165
Views: 45374

Re: Wednesday 19th April 2017

howsillyofme1 wrote:Perhaps because you don't have an answer?
Stop trolling. I note that you are currently hammering Hugo for answering a question you posted yourself.
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 12:45 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 19th April 2017
Replies: 165
Views: 45374

Re: Wednesday 19th April 2017

Not much to argue against here: http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2017/04/19/election-2017-may-s-great-lie" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; When real life feels like a history textbook, and a pretty basic one at that. Another reason Corbyn could do the country a massive favour...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 11:36 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 19th April 2017
Replies: 165
Views: 45374

Re: Wednesday 19th April 2017

Not much to argue against here: http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2017/04/19/election-2017-may-s-great-lie" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; When real life feels like a history textbook, and a pretty basic one at that. Another reason Corbyn could do the country a massive favour...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 11:33 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 19th April 2017
Replies: 165
Views: 45374

Re: Wednesday 19th April 2017

Amber Rudd is citing Theresa May's wish to have "support from her MPs" (re "Brexit") as one of the reasons for calling a General Election. What changes is she (TM) expecting in their views\make-up, then? The whole thing stands up less and less to scrutiny. Hi PF I'm struggling t...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 19 Apr, 2017 11:26 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 19th April 2017
Replies: 165
Views: 45374

Re: Wednesday 19th April 2017

Mind you, imagine the "I told you so"s if Corbyn actually won? All those who backed him in 2015 would come flooding back. I'd be the first to put my hands up and say I got it wrong. [NB however, that he will lose was and is not my primary reason for opposing the current leader.] May usele...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 11:43 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday, 18th April 2017
Replies: 378
Views: 90801

Re: Tuesday, 18th April 2017

howsillyofme1 wrote:How about the Tories threatening Spain....much worse surely?

Again why bring up hypothetical situations to criticise a party you pretend to support?

Have Russia attacked anyone yet?
Erm yes - Georgia and Ukraine. To name a couple.
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 11:41 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday, 18th April 2017
Replies: 378
Views: 90801

Re: Tuesday, 18th April 2017

I see that the "country coming together" line didn't last long... http://i65.tinypic.com/2ci70xj.jpg How is this not completely bloody terrifying? And Paul, the Lexiters were told time and time again this would happen: I don't give a flying one for their sensitivities. I despise them. Fuc...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 10:58 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday, 18th April 2017
Replies: 378
Views: 90801

Re: Tuesday, 18th April 2017

Bloody hell Corbyn IRA coming up again......i do not doubt he would condemn IRA terrorist acts but also support a united Ireland and criticise the actions of the British Government. Seems also a bit 1980s see in Sinn Fein are in Government CND.....well criticise someone at the moment when nuclear c...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 10:37 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday, 18th April 2017
Replies: 378
Views: 90801

Re: Tuesday, 18th April 2017

Above, I agree that supporting cuts against the most vulnerable was stupidity of the highest order and indeed unacceptable. There is a lot to be gained from changing the leader, but the only person who can now do that is the leader, and it won't happen. Which is a shame as May might panic if she did...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 10:20 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday, 18th April 2017
Replies: 378
Views: 90801

Re: Tuesday, 18th April 2017

SpinningHugo wrote:One unequivocally good and cheering thought.

Ukips will not win a seat, and will fall well below 10%.
But the bastards have colonised the Tory Party.
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 9:56 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday, 18th April 2017
Replies: 378
Views: 90801

Re: Tuesday, 18th April 2017

Apparently on the 18th April 1930 there was officially no news, according to the BBC.
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 9:47 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday, 18th April 2017
Replies: 378
Views: 90801

Re: Tuesday, 18th April 2017

RogerOThornhill wrote:Well.
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by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 9:46 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday, 18th April 2017
Replies: 378
Views: 90801

Re: Tuesday, 18th April 2017

For once just have a little respect. Real peoples lives are being destroyed here while you play your games. Today Corbyn was talking to unpaid carers while the BBC reported him as addressing the faithful. This is the kind of devious undermining of support for people that passes for news these days....
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 9:39 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday, 18th April 2017
Replies: 378
Views: 90801

Re: Tuesday, 18th April 2017

and now feeling sorry for the chocolate bunny Only toes left now. Superior chocolate. European. It met its destiny goofy teeth and all. I once had a marzipan bambi, felt sorry for it, after a while it went green and my mum chucked it. Lyons Tea House. Had a similar experience with a small chocolate...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 9:36 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday, 18th April 2017
Replies: 378
Views: 90801

Re: Tuesday, 18th April 2017

But 1. There are some good political dramas. I'd recommend All the King's Men (1949) and Advise and Consent (1962). I also liked the original House of Cards. West Wing always struck me as boring liberal fantasy. 2. You have to get into the Corbyn mindset. For that wing of opinion, Blairite victory ...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 8:50 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday, 18th April 2017
Replies: 378
Views: 90801

Re: Tuesday, 18th April 2017

In answer to AK's West Wing comments. Firstly never seen it, never will. Real politics is grim, fictional politics pointless. And I certainly can't speak for SH. But as a pragmatic centerist I think your analysis is off a bit. This is what I believe. A Tory government is a bad thing and should be av...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 18 Apr, 2017 8:11 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday, 18th April 2017
Replies: 378
Views: 90801

Re: Tuesday, 18th April 2017

@howsilly "I would ask who will be voting to ensure the best opportunity of defeating the Tories......will people vote for Labour even if Corbyn led?" Well,locally-and I'm outraged that apparently people are suggesting actively undermining Labour-at the obvious consequent risk of diminish...