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Morning. Lovely blue sky and sun, hope others have such a lovely morning where they are. Apologies if this was covered last night but I've not caught up with things yet. https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/827408001061433344" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; https://twit...

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"Because after all the division and discord, the country is coming together.
The referendum was divisive at times. And those divisions have taken time to heal."

- T May

heal !

The wounds are infected...rot has set in.

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Not sure if this has been posted. Apologies if I've missed it.

Mrs May's full white paper here :

http://uk.businessinsider.com/governmen ... lan-2017-2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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yahyah wrote:Interesting to see that two Lib Dems voted with most of Labour and the Tories.
My MP Mark Williams was one of the 114.

Morning yahyah. I thought they'd abstained ?

(edit- too slow again )

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The best summation I've seen of the kind of white-hot anger I'm referring to (warning: long thread): https://twitter.com/MitchBenn/status/826912388872015872" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Highlight: And I am heartbroken, bewildered, and DEMENTEDLY FURIOUS that those freedo...

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I wish my brain was working better The dictator clause could be in A50 withdrawal notice so that a new government could withdraw dictators request to leave. (To be clear, I'm not say we are in a dictatorship just that that's the wording & reasoning I recall, to which ever bit of the EU bill it ...

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I remember reading that EU agreement to UK (or any country) leaving depends on the country having a clear majority (more than 50/50) under their constitution. This was put in to stop dictators taking power and dragging a country out against its wishes. I've look for the clause since and can't find ...

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I remember reading that EU agreement to UK (or any country) leaving depends on the country having a clear majority (more than 50/50) under their constitution. This was put in to stop dictators taking power and dragging a country out against its wishes. I've look for the clause since and can't find ...

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Clive Lewis and Tulip Siddiq among frontbenchers opposed to triggering Brexit as party leader says he expects all his MPs to vote in favour https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/26/corbyn-to-impose-three-line-whip-on-labour-mps-to-trigger-article-50-brexit?CMP=fb_gu" onclick="wind...

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Hideous, monstrous, ominous... https://twitter.com/Harkaway/status/824520264578957312" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Shout out to those people who wondered why some of us were highly alarmed by the US election result: https://twitter.com/Green_Footballs/status/824441136194...

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yahyah wrote:<waves to Lost Soul>

Yo !

( I've joined the BMC...

)

Not so lost - well actually, getting lost somewhere nice !

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And just to bring up a point made last night, there has been no survey showing 70% of people in Sunderland now want to stay in the EU. What was claimed to show that was in fact a voodoo poll, hence totally worthless. I'm probably misunderstanding what a voodoo poll is... But the poll was by the Sun...

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Finally - The chairmen of the board's plea is answered :

https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... omers-find" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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I found this very helpful, from the Mirror! The decision on whether the Government or Parliament should have the power to trigger Article 50 could rest on what happened to a London hotel. The Supreme Court is very interested in a 1920 case between the Attorney General and the De Keyser’s Royal Hote...

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John Major - The tyranny of majority.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... referendum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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The Government is steering us off a cliff with Brexit – but that’s fine, because it’s ‘ the will of the people ’ Labour, too, has no problem with this view of 'the will of the British people'. Tom Watson loves the phrase. So does Hilary Benn. When the opposition party’s safest seats are the most Br...

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AngryAsWell wrote:Tony Blair’s rallying call for the 48%: His treatise on combatting Brexit

http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/article ... _1_4754772" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks for that. Absolutely nailed it.

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citizenJA wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:I do wish people would desist from referring to the 52% as "the British Public" as if the rest of us don't exist. It's winding me up.
hear hear

Yes. A thousand times ...yes.

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Apologies to the good citizens of Kent but: - Caesar considered the Britons of Kent to be the most civilised (not least, one assumes, because that's how he got in) - Hengist and Horsa - arrived through Kent - Vikings overwintered for the first time in Kent - selective system for schools never went ...

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Thanks Anatoly, Lost Soul & PorFavor & others for your posts about the Lib Dem's big win in Sheffield. Have been out all day, just catching up, wasn't ignoring you. Interesting to hear about the Labour candidate being from out of the area, probably explains a lot about the result. MsChin's ...

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There's really no 'glee'. Quite the opposite.

I'd also be surprised if people voted Lib Dem because the Labour candidate didn't like Corbyn.
Surprised, but it's always possible...

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Have seen some results. Labour down % in all of them. Anyone got a local view of the spectacular Lib Dem revival in Mosborough, Sheffield ? They won the seat after the death of a popular Labour councillor. The Mirror describe it as Labour crushed. Lib Dems 45.6% [+31.8] Labour 31.1% [-9.2] Greens, ...

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Morning all. Already looking forward to AK's round-up of yesterday's results. Have seen some results. Labour down % in all of them. Anyone got a local view of the spectacular Lib Dem revival in Mosborough, Sheffield ? They won the seat after the death of a popular Labour councillor. The Mirror desc...

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Thanks HindleA Much is being made of our result being a Corbyn endorsement - but it's pretty close , a lot closer than I was expecting. particularly for the People's republic of South Yorkshire. 7 to 15% is very low - surely tells us very little about potential results. Though a high Corbyn score ma...

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Local CLP nomination meeting ( Sheffield Heeley ) - the one I didn't go to and as suggested - I do regret it... Not such a landslide is it ? Dear I am emailing to inform you to inform you of the result of the Nomination Meeting held last Friday. The results were as follows: Jeremy Corbyn 61 votes Ow...

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Local CLP nomination meeting ( Sheffield Heeley ) - the one I didn't go to and as suggested - I do regret it... Not such a landslide is it ? Dear I am emailing to inform you to inform you of the result of the Nomination Meeting held last Friday. The results were as follows: Jeremy Corbyn 61 votes Ow...

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I notice the BBC Breakfast team found Bradley Wiggins' pathetic tongue-pulling during the national anthem yesterday as a sign that he is a spirited wonderchild. Can you expand, please? Was it some sort of protest? In which case, why did he accept a Sir-dom? No, he was just over excited. He noticed ...

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The blogger Phil BC has an interesting account of last night's Stoke Central meeting. From that and reports from elsewhere I have seen, it seems that when even Smith supporters are a small minority they are treated respectfully by the dissenting majority. Generally no booing, no heckling, no demand...

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Well, that was a turnout of about 7% overall - not massively impressive tbh

(also claims that many if not all Scottish GMB members missed getting a vote, not sure if that is true but just putting it out there)

ah...

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Good morning all, Apologies for mentioning The Topic Which Must Not Be Named, but I don't believe that there was much mention of the GMB coming out in favour of Owen Smith. I've been away for a couple of weeks, so further apologies if this has already been posted (and even further apologies for the...

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Cpb80t1XYAAv-xJ.jpg http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trumps-rambling-90-second-speech-stuns-english-speaking-world_uk_57ab37d7e4b08ab70dc0f646" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; OMG !!! It is now well beyond the stage where I can tell whether or not Trump quotes ar...

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Cpb80t1XYAAv-xJ.jpg http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trumps-rambling-90-second-speech-stuns-english-speaking-world_uk_57ab37d7e4b08ab70dc0f646" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; OMG !!! I struggle with his delivery... The message too of course. My head aches.

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And this on Brexit is superb https://flipchartfairytales.wordpress.com/2016/08/10/brexit-enough-david-brent-this-is-serious/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; This bit: 'Brexit, he concluded, will have to be prioritised with consequences for all other major government project...

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HindleA wrote:http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n16/tom-crewe/we-are-many

We Are Many
Tom Crewe goes among the Corbyn supporters

...adding to my worries...

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This argument about Article 50... I voted Remain but I believe that A50 should be invoked as soon as possible...and ideally would have been soon after the referendum. I will also say that the leave vote was not the right one The reasons are: The PM said it would be and not to do it damages the cred...

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On the morning of 24th he said it both on tv and radio more than once. How he can deny now having said it is bizarre to me. I know he has backtacked, and I suppose he can say he was 'misconstrued' but it is very odd to deny having said something he clearly did, and which was the immediate trigger f...

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I was more drawn to the comment in which Corbyn appeared to deny demanding Cameron invoke article 50 straight away after the EU ref, which was discussed on Twitter after. I didn't see this bit of the debate, so haven't heard the whole exchange. Given Corbyn was still asking Cameron to invoke articl...

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I received this by email yesterday : Dear I am emailing you with a Notification of a Nomination Meeting on Friday 12th August There will be one agenda item. This is an opportunity for discussion and a nomination vote on which Leadership candidate the Constituency seeks to support. I won't be going. ...

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Yes,contributed to the Bullock Report,retired to Tasmania,I think,I have a store of such useless information.He was more ample I think he came back from Tasmania. The devil . . . . Devil eh ? Is this him ? https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/aug/02/hawaii-volcano-smiley-face-nature-smile&q...

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yahyah wrote:http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/fac ... rbyn/23170

Thank you
Do we know how many of those duplicated policies were also Ed Millibands ?

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So just had a look at 'Owen Smith leadership' - thanks for your contributions. I think I get it... We hurl stuff back and forth here instead of on the main board - is that it ? Right I advised Corbyn’s economics team to learn fast. They didn’t David Blanchflower https://www.theguardian.com/commentis...

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Interesting Huffington post on the Kinnock/school/ Momentum/Wales thing...not fussed apparently.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/m ... 6a0b612233" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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We usually have a choice of seven or eight - but it's easy to narrow it down when you cross out the ones with horns, or flags tattooed on their foreheads...
or brass buttoned blazers come to think of it.

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They should be representing their constituents. Why else would anyone vote for them ? Well, I of course agree, but does that mean Labour MPs should feel no compulsion to follow the votes of party members when they themselves disagree? Deselection is, of course, a way of trying to bring in a form of...

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What I'd really like to hear now is a vocal commitment from the PLP to honour the democratic mandate of whoever wins and collectively do their jobs. Then they can rightly claim their place as Labour party MPs representing the interests of their constituencies. There is, of course, a tension here. S...

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On that note: people's views on retaining the voting rights of £3/£25 non-members? With some obvious modifications plus the internal resources to manage it properly, I quite like the principle (of course, I would, seeing as I am more likely to fall into this category). Flawed but also has its posit...

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Plenty of this kind of thing in the SNP/Ukip social media world as well of course, but this reflects my perception http://www.newstatesman.com/2016/07/jeremy-corbyn-and-paranoid-style" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Though the author doesn't know what 'disinterest' means a...

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On that note: people's views on retaining the voting rights of £3/£25 non-members? With some obvious modifications plus the internal resources to manage it properly, I quite like the principle (of course, I would, seeing as I am more likely to fall into this category). Flawed but also has its posit...

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Apologies if this has already been linked to - it made me laugh ( there's a bit of swearing in the subtitles ) Boris' brexit HQ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vztHNJxwoGA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; This doesn't make me laugh - it makes me angry and pissed off. I wat...

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