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mbc1955

I'm always ready to hear Hugo and TE, but may I say that anyone who can possibly judge what kind of politician will be "electable" at the next General Election is a much, much smarter guy than me. One week Dave is unassailable, the next Osborne is the anointed successor, then it's Boris r...

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If there must be a "substantial change" in who makes up the Parliamentary Labour Party there will have to be deselections. Obviously. It would be better by far for the current members of the PLP to support their leader. equally obviously. Do we really have to go through all this again? FF...

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The only thing you can say with absolute certainty about the effects of Saddam Hussein not being overthrown is that thousands of people would have died. They would just have been different people from the ones who, in the event, did die. Who are we to take the decision which 'set' of people should b...

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Oh and on Blair A tragedy....he could have done so much. A clever guy, personable, charming and capable. cameron was just a pale imitation Started off okay and then lost his courage, or he was diverted by the love on money (better men have fallen for that). he then gout the hubris bug and he was li...

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yahyah wrote:Will today be cathartic for those who hate Blair ?

Satisfying rather than cathartic.

History's verdict is in and I didn't even have to live centuries to see it.

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StephenDolan wrote:Sunny Hundal – ‏@sunny_hundal

This was Blair's chance to accept he made mistakes, claw back sympathy. Instead he's spent 50 min telling us we're too stupid to understand

Sometimes the world is just too predictable.

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Did I mishear or did Tony Blair just ask (effectively) the Chilcot enquiry if they had any better ideas (re post-war Iraq? That's what he said. I missed that part of the Chilcot remit. Blair's lack of self awareness is staggering. It's like seeing an 80s boy, now middle aged man, walking into a new...

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I've read the thread so far and my considered opinion is that we should collectively cease to debate Hugo. He's merely a distraction, a whisper of Henry Kissinger's realpolitik , where the morality of any action is irrelevant when placed against its practical effect. Of course Hugo wants to dismiss ...

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ohsocynical wrote:
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I dunno about the rest but the protest blank ballots were a waste of everybody's time, especially the 'protesters', since blank ballots just count as spoiled: always have, always will, so you can strike that bit from the accusation.

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Trump predicted she wouldn't be charged in a tweet the other day. Of course, this was described as a "conspiracy"......

As opposed to 'I've been lying to you all along'.

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Hillary Clinton e-mail account - FBI to bring no charges. But overall, I got the impression that they're not impressed by her behaviour. So let me get this straight. She's NOT going to be arrested for treason, leaving Donald Trump a free run at the Presidency after all. But so many Republicans swor...

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Evening all, Today my daughter's b/f proposed to her. As he is in her words "the love of my life and my best friend" she naturally accepted. I am delighted because she is happy, but also, because we all love him. He's a good 'un. Nothing to do with politics I know but I kind of wanted to ...

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You've got your habits I've got my customs I'm sure you know it's got to be this way No hesitation And in the future We'll celebrate on Independence Day And I can't stand up and I can't sit down 'cause a great big problem stop me in my tracks I can't relax 'cause I haven't done a thing And I can't ...

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Aw shit. I'd begun to hope that the worst was over, that the past couple of month's calmness on that front meant that the onslaught was over and we would just have the everyday man-made utter disasters to deal with, but obviously I was too optimistic. Unfortunately, I think it's demographic. The 70...

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As the Prime Minister – for another 10 weeks anyway – flew back to Britain and reflected on an extraordinary week, I am told that he doesn’t regret his decision to hold the referendum . It was right in democratic principle, he says. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-britain-david-cameron-a...

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nelsons-column-brexit-show-democracy-8334070? Should the selection of the England football squad be subject to a vote of English fans? Should big decisions by the managing director of a company be put to a democratic vote of the workforce? Answers 'no' and 'no'....

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danesclose wrote:Fucking hell, now Caroline Aherne's died.

Aw shit. I'd begun to hope that the worst was over, that the past couple of month's calmness on that front meant that the onslaught was over and we would just have the everyday man-made utter disasters to deal with, but obviously I was too optimistic.

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YOu know in all my days, I don't think I can remember the british getting off their arse to support a politician. Not like this, I don't think it's ever happened before. Rallies accross the country, and then we have the pro eu demo in London. Unless you count Churchill's funeral, which was for a de...

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Well, one thing you can say about the last week, is Britain is more politically engaged than it has been for decades. The longer the vacuum of leadership goes on, from both sides now because the coup is paralysing labour, the more active people will become. Trump is going to winthe presidency you k...

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Will it never stop? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/01/jeremy-corbyn-is-neither-nice-nor-decent--he-is-a-nasty-bully-an/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; jeremy-corbyn-is-neither-nice-nor-decent--he-is-a-nasty-bully-an No, it never will. However, given that all the f...

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MBC is not an official part of Momentum. It is a self-described 'splinter group aiming for more “black power”'. As far as I can tell it is one or two activists, a Facebook group and a blog. I certainly am NOT! Everyone who knows me knows that I have absolutely no momentum whatsoever. Have a care, s...

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I confess that I have finally started to talk my usual idiotic guff at work, having been far from my sparkling self for the entire week. The news that Boris had committed hari-kiri with his career was wonderfully uplifting.

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RogerOThornhill wrote:How on earth is this acceptable?

"And if you weren't born here - we don't give a toss about you"

We'll bring in laws against race hate, but, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, they won't apply to all those dirty foreigners.

mbc1955

So Corbyn wasn't involved by the way, and the anti-semitic comment was accusing of their being collusion with the media? Correct? Why has she so swiftly and vehemently demanded his resignation over this? Do we need to ask? Everything remotely controversial around Corbyn always has been and always w...

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yahyah wrote:It does feel as if the world is regaining a little more stability doesn't it mbc ?

On the other hand, after a 75 minute team time that has taken up the intervening period, it is once more all askew.

mbc1955

For most of this week, I have not been on speaking terms with the world and have wished it would piss off and leave me alone until I feel more human.

This is the first shaft of light since I went to bed last Thursday evening.

mbc1955

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... l-election
not just me (or Owen Jones) then

We should be so lucky.

mbc1955

I too hope Corbyn gets re-elected, if only for the fun of sitting back in a deep, comfortable armchair, in front of a roaring open fire whilst the PLP gets roasted on it. This is one time when a purge would be wholly justified.

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The longer they stall from launching a challenge the risk of someone breaking ranks under pressure from constituencies becomes very likely. Some of these MPs dont look happy about where they have been forced to go by the plotters. Everyone thought it would be all over by now. Abject cowardice and i...

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I've got a couple mbc. Tintin in Tibet's my favourite. I used to have the lot, but had to get rid in 2009 when I underwent a severe downgrade in housespace. I chose those (and the Asterix books) rather than others because they would be easy and inexpensive than many other things to replace when my ...

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Cowards, liars, thieves, trimmers, poltroons, dastards, weaklings, caitiffs, malingerers, invertebrates (where's a handy Tintin book with Captain Haddock on a rant when you need one?) bashi-bazouks, lickspittle, bottom-feeders.

mbc1955

How anyone is going to be able to take any of these idiots seriously as politicians after this is completely beyond me.

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Disgusting beyond belief. Strong arm tactics. They seem to be determined to do this every which way except the correct, within the party regulations way. Despicable. Corbyn has got to force them through the proper channels, no matter the damage done.

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Mountain rescue teams have launched a search mission after a group of as many as 24 teenagers became lost in the Brecon Beacons amid atrocious weather conditions. Around 14 children are believed to have returned to a pub in the national park, which is being used as a base for the search-and-rescue ...

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Before Miliband called for Corbyn to go, I thought he might win a new leadership election. He won't now. He's gone. Hugo in an, 'everyone will now listen to Miliband' confessional. That must burn. Miliband is very popular with the members. See on this board when there was weeping and wailing when h...

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TobyLatimer wrote:
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If this were real, I would have expected to see Beryl taken away by the Police a long time ago, having staved the back of his head in.

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RogerOThornhill wrote:Cameron's acting in the only way that he knows how - lashing out.

"Not my fault"
"Somebody else did it"
"Not me"

Heir to Blair to the last.

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RogerOThornhill wrote:Oh dear...

Utter lunacy to think that even a fraction of that can be accomplished, he might as well promise to teach a horse to talk. I myself would happily imprison him in the traditional dungeon to enable him to try.

mbc1955

They share the blame with others, yes. I don't see how this statement is even controversial. Well, how much blame? Primary? Peripheral? Is Corbyn less to blame, or more? And how many of these irreconcilable Blairites are there? 50? 30? 3? This is a fruitless argument with no discernible point, a di...

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To say the least, the competence that has been shown throughout this 'rebellion' is a powerful argument for not letting anyone involved in it anywhere near the reins of power of a tennis club (of which the dynamics are curiously reminiscent) let alone government of a country.

mbc1955

Pessimistic as it is, I am coming round to the position that the only thing that can be done is to let this thing with the Labour Party go through to its end. There is a poison in the party, wherever you stand, and bodging together some solution whereby it can all be swept under the carpet and a fal...

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Good morning Tempers cooled (I hope) after yesterday, and no backtracking over that ground. I hereby formally accept my position as Royal Truth Ferreter and humbly beseech our dear Queen Ephie for consent to extending my remit to open a People's Chipmunkery. PS: I would also like to apply for the po...

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Oh good grief... http://i64.tinypic.com/2vruybd.jpg So... 1. Calling a referendum which you then go and lose and 2. Holding to an insane net migration target when everyone knew that it couldn't be met, not to mention not doing anything to cut non-EU immigration which is entirely in the UK's powers....

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I thought there was a no flouncing rule on here. Wilow, say what you want for I see no harm in what you say. I may not agree about Corbyn but this isn't an echo chamber and you're one of the best posters on here. Ditto RR2. Well done, Oik. I agree. You'd prefer I use the unparliamentary language th...

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Tim Farron has said he will fight to re-join the EU and that message is far more appealing to me than Corbyn right now. I'm not really advocating overturning anything, just saying the Tories wanted out so they can take us out as far as I'm concerned (although I think they could be capable of that k...

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Tim Farron has said he will fight to re-join the EU and that message is far more appealing to me than Corbyn right now. I'm not really advocating overturning anything, just saying the Tories wanted out so they can take us out as far as I'm concerned (although I think they could be capable of that k...

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No, democracy is this. If Labour doesn't offer me what I want and need from a political party, I will leave and join another party. This is true of all of us and we comment here, on a political forum, to express when we approve (I really liked Ed, though I always understood that he didn't really ap...

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No, democracy is this. If Labour doesn't offer me what I want and need from a political party, I will leave and join another party. This is true of all of us and we comment here, on a political forum, to express when we approve (I really liked Ed, though I always understood that he didn't really ap...

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utopiandreams wrote:As for Cameron he shall come back from Europe with his instructions. Is there a hog's roast on this evening's menu?

Yes. Cameron's the hog.

mbc1955

I despair of some people understanding where I stand, without my writing a post of such length that it could only be contained on my blog - which is not a place for such things anyway - so I'm quitting for tonight. And judging my some of the responses, even if I spelt things out in infinite detail, ...

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