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I agree with with you. Heseltine's coherence doesn't surprise me. I'm not a strategist but I can see when there's a game being played. Heseltine isn't currently in that game. I think he can say his mind without disturbing play. Yes, exactly. So complaining that he has more "clarity" than ...

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I'm slightly disturbed when Michael Heseltine makes more sense than the Shadow Cabinet should... 'I am opposed to all the compromises on offer, from Norway plus to common market 2.0 and the so-called Canada-style agreement. In one way or another, they would make us second-class citizens in a second...

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They need to stop arsing about - nail down the position they HAVE to adopt to delay Brexit ( because you'd have to be completely unhinged not to ) - then work back from there - on the things that ARE possible in the time available.

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I'm slightly disturbed when Michael Heseltine makes more sense than the Shadow Cabinet should... 'I am opposed to all the compromises on offer, from Norway plus to common market 2.0 and the so-called Canada-style agreement. In one way or another, they would make us second-class citizens in a second-...

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Hi Willow I appreciate that - it is confusing. But I'd have hoped that It'd be clearer at this point - they all claim that theirs is the 'official' position... I'm also concerned that the indicative votes might not be a free vote - 'Shadow minister suggests party will whip along policy lines ahead o...

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Donald Tusk ‏ Verified account @eucopresident Follow Follow @eucopresident More Appeal to EP: You should be open to a long extension, if the UK wishes to rethink its strategy. 6 million people signed the petition, 1 million marched. They may not feel sufficiently represented by UK Parliament but th...

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It's only 3.5 million rolls though - that's about a week , given current current events.

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The Germans are doing what they can to help us : UK's top toilet roll supplier stockpiling in case of no-deal Brexit. The German firm Wepa said it had been storing an extra 600 tonnes of toilet and kitchen roll in the last three to four months to safeguard supplies in Britain, in case the UK crashes...

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So , what's being reported as the EU digging its heels in and refusing to allow a longer extension is actually because May 'won't countenance' any involvement in the EU elections.

( Stella Creasey table headbutt )

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There was the one suggesting that the Brexit vote should only count if it was over 60% of at least 75% of the eligible voters ( started by a brexiter - pre brexit ) 4 million signed it I think - but mostly after the vote. The originator was mightily peeved - saying it had been bushwhacked by remain...

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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584?fbclid=IwAR2dQCw2zCykUxAbwyghmdb56SypHCdCjpfoA1eRv-u-yu7GmOH2CBJ2yLc Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU. I don't know what the record for a parliament petition is, but I've certainly never seen one grow as quickly as this before. There's a lot of ...

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One less noticed comment from Tusk yesterday was effectively pronouncing a second referendum dead, at any rate until we have actually left the EU. I can see why he thinks that, but it's not up to him. I think it was a regretful observation from Tusk - with which I'd agree . 'During his press confer...

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source ? Please. I'm interested, where can I go to read more ? I don't do Twitters though. It's moderately controversial. Sky News did a twitter poll that said 26% thought no deal meant no change. One polling org said it was only 1%, sorry don't know which one. This says it's 4%. http://ukandeu.ac....

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source ? Please. I'm interested, where can I go to read more ? I don't do Twitters though.

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Harris doing his "racism safari" act again I see. Its only really "scary" if you think he interviewed a representative cross section of people, rather than finding what he wanted to find. He has past form on this btw. Okay.... It was in answer to Roger's question but - What I fo...

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I'm pretty sure I heard something on the news about the National Crime Agency going to an emergency status or something like it in the event of a No deal Brexit. I'm still struggling to understand the extremists who are cheering on a No deal Brexit - is it a case of "yeah things will be awful ...

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David Lammy : https://www.indy100.com/article/david-lammy-brexit-speech-house-of-commons-labour-eu-deal-leave-watch-video-8724301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Yes, I know that British Politics is based on shenanigans and machinations and things are never as straightforwar...

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more of it here

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This one ?
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MPs to block repeat vote on May's deal ...

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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning.

Brexit is still a shambles.

Happy 2019!

It is !

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Thanks for the link PorFavor

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Frankie Boyle’s review of 2018: 'Let's forget Brexit and enjoy our last Christmas with running water' https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/22/frankie-boyle-review-2018-forget-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and my favorite: ' Theresa May dancing on stage at t...

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Ah...someone else is awake !

Good morning

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Corbyn's stance made sense two years ago, and probably made sense six months ago, but I don't think it makes any sense at all now. I think that now it's just a different way of denying reality. Absolutely. There is a much simpler policy line to pursue now a. We've voted to leave. b. The government ...

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I wonder about the degree to which a GE involving a Labour party still espousing no people's vote (even though I'm not sure about it myself) would actually "sweep the Tories from power". What's the current view on that? Oh yes - and PTO. Hmmm...'til relatively recently I would've voted fo...

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A lot of people feel that leaving the EU isn't desirable - more now than previously... 'For most of this year, polls have shown remain ahead of leave, typically by four to six points. But in a referendum between staying in the EU and leaving on the terms that the government has negotiated, staying e...

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Not very proud of my generation at the moment - but impressed by the newest one , they are losing patience. Lara Spirit : https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/21/elders-older-wiser-brexit-clown-parliament-generation-politics" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I a...

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Not very proud of my generation at the moment - but impressed by the newest one , they are losing patience. Lara Spirit :

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Well then - there you go - sorted...

Puut'n tells May to 'fulfil will of people' on Brexit

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Watched the clip this morning...and Mrs May's performance .

Would have been funnier if Mr Corbyn had said 'calm down dear' ( to quote a previous Tory Leader )

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I'd love to hear what Ed Miliband thinks of all this. Although I understand why he might think it prudent (for the sake of the Labour Party) to keep quiet at this juncture. Edited - to add the bit in brackets If it all goes wrong for Theresa May tonight, Ed Miliband has some helpful career advice ....

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/11/brexit-study-finds-significant-decrease-in-diehard-leave-backers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 'The analysis, carried out over the weekend, is based on the views of voters who participated in the thinktank’s “Brexit Diaries”...

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PorFavor wrote:Jacob Rees Mogg comes out for Boris Johnson.

Well, obvs ...I wish them every happiness..but gosh, wasn't expecting that !

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If you can bear it...

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Brexit: MPs hold emergency debate on meaningful vote – watch live Guardian News

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Paul Mason 'Labour’s conference left “all options on the table”, including a second referendum and a remain vote. Nowhere in its conference motion on Brexit did it say a second referendum would be a “betrayal”. That’s the language of our opponents. We should counter it with a narrative of hope.' htt...

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/10/no-deal-brexit-theresa-may A no-deal Brexit would be the deranged action of a rogue state Hi Willow Ashcroft's latest Poll is interesting too ( not just the usually presented edited highlights ) : http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2018/12/what-should...

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If you're going to do it at all you might as well have May, Corbyn, a no deal Brexiter and a People's Vote representative. Because those are the choices we actually face. Let them each make their case then face questions from an audience properly selected to fairly represent those choices. I see ab...

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Had to check it wasn't April the 1st... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/29/twitter-users-mint-new-jokes-over-brexit-50p-coin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 'The move to celebrate Brexit in this way may be ultimately self-defeating. As one person put it on Twit...

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BREAKING: crowd size estimates have been revised up from 570,000 to 670,000 - 670,000 people demanding a #PeoplesVote on the Brexit deal. Elsewhere, in Harrogate, at the Leave Means Leave rally there are reportedly 1,200 people in attendance. Sky have reported that Nigel Farage claimed “millions” of...

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https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/19/tory-rightwingers-seek-to-embarrass-may-over-high-powered-rifles-ban "Tory rightwingers seek to embarrass May over high-powered rifles ban" Hard Brexit Tories will use a Commons vote to try and overturn Home Office plans to ban high-powered...

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Oh dear... Richard Vaughan ‏@RichardVaughan1 33s 34 seconds ago More Trump calls “fake news” on the suns explosive interview Maybe someone told him that it hadn't been that smart a move when a guest in a foreign country... Upset the Sun - so they've released the tape : https://www.thesun.co.uk/news...

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Willow904 wrote:I think that's 4.45pm GMT.

I expect it'll be something really dull in the end, but Twitter is buzzing about a possible new indictment.

Oh my...

not dull at all !

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The Commons has voted 320 to 301 to reject New Clause 11 to the #EUWithdrawalBill. This clause would have ensured the Government assesses the impact of either an agreement or no deal on the UK economy and regions before a meaningful vote. So basically our representatives have actively chosen NOT to...

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But there is no middle ground. With the yes or no vote - once you've committed your vote you are either hard brexit or hard remain. The 'not bothered ' are the third who didn't vote at all. You see, this is what I really disagree with. I don't think that's the right way of reading public opinion. I...

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But there is no middle ground.

With the yes or no vote - once you've committed your vote you are either hard brexit or hard remain.

The 'not bothered ' are the third who didn't vote at all.

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Somebody said on Twitter re the referendum being a close run thing - "yes it was, but so was the battle of Waterloo, there weren't many demands for that to be run again" ;) (a facetious quip yes, but with a kernel of truth) Amusing that they chose Waterloo. Only 36% of Wellington's army w...

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Labour’s student vote ‘could melt away’ over Brexit backing Hepi/YouthSight poll finds 68 per cent of students now back the party, up from 55 per cent prior to June’s general election https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/labours-student-vote-could-melt-away-over-brexit-backing" onclick=&q...

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'And what does "statesmanlike" mean anyway?? Often it just seems to mean "looking/sounding the part". Which is how we got Cameron.'

Gravitas, competence and a calm sure hand ( not to be confused with confidence - which is what Cameron has - like a boy racer has it )

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So, this transition period... We still go off the cliff - but float down gently ? ..and end up broken on the same rocks. I think the point of a transition period is that it would only be started once it has been agreed what we are transitioning to, so no, I don't think there'll be a cliff edge at t...

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So, this transition period...

We still go off the cliff - but float down gently ?

..and end up broken on the same rocks.

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