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http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/england-s-idea-of-unionism-is-not-shared-in-the-rest-of-uk-1.3017660#.WNIvRzfBwF8.twitter England’s idea of unionism is not shared in the rest of UK And the IT's interpretation of the origins of "the vow" is not shared by the actual originator. Here's the...

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You might or might not be aware that the chancer, Richard Murphy, is scuttling after the SNP for work and fans. Great take down of him here. http://rwbblog.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/why-you-cant-remotely-rely-on-richard.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Supporting the views...

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Far-right millionaire: I'll use social media network to back Scottish independence https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/20/jim-dowson-back-scottish-independence-patriotic-news-agency-far-right" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Very Aaron Banks But not the first to tr...

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Tubby Isaacs wrote: I see Sturgeon's now willing to delay her referendum but not till after Brexit.

Conference is over but she'll need another grievance to keep the faithful straining at the leash in a few months.

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My commiserations, though it applies to her entire stint as leader really. True. Ruth Davidson is way ahead in the 'getting noticed' stakes. The penalty, perhaps, for coming third behind the Tories, who get more exposure as the official opposition? She (Davidson) was a BBC journalist which may have...

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PaulfromYorkshire wrote: ...a wild morning in the Pennines

Has the party been going on all night or is this a new one?

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:My commiserations, though it applies to her entire stint as leader really.

True. Ruth Davidson is way ahead in the 'getting noticed' stakes.

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Following the major Labour collapse in 2014-15, some of their remaining Scottish support mainly motivated by "unionism" has drifted off to the Tories. Corbyn is no more popular north of the border than elsewhere, but it also doesn't help that the present SLab leader is so anonymous and ha...

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[quote="Eric_WLothian Has Scotland - as opposed to the SNP - asked for more powers? The suggestions in the article seem to me to be borne of a fear of another referendum rather than any rational development of the UK as a whole. It seems crazy to suggest that VAT should be different in differe...

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Gordon Brown makes some compelling points as always but I must confess I'm finding your arguments more persuasive. More devolved power isn't the answer. More central power would be better. An upper house made up of regional representatives would be a better way forward if the UK is to properly thri...

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Has Scotland - as opposed to the SNP - asked for more powers? The suggestions in the article seem to me to be borne of a fear of another referendum rather than any rational development of the UK as a whole. It seems crazy to suggest that VAT should be different in different parts of a single countr...

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39309133 Gordon Brown: 'Holyrood should gain Brexit powers' Because the assurances made about that kind of thing paid off so well last time? Not a pop at you, obviously. Has Scotland - as opposed to the SNP - asked for more powers? The suggest...

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An interesting (I'm feeling generous) point of view from the Greens on indyref2: A Green spokesman said: “The situation we find ourselves in is down the recklessness of the Tories, their disrespect for Scotland’s Remain vote, and a feeble Labour opposition. A timescale of autumn 2018 to spring 2019 ...

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adam wrote:There is much too much assumption here that electorates are reasonable and rational people who will make sensible decisions.

There is much too much assumption that governments are reasonable and rational people who will make sensible decisions

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Surely she wouldn't do a May and talk herself into trouble high on conference buzz. Too late - she (Sturgeon) wrote herself into trouble when she put another referendum in the SNP manifesto. Edited to add: The situation could be saved quite easily by the Greens voting against the minority SNP gover...

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Where would a transitional UK-EU deal leave the SNP? It might not be too bad, provided the EU are satisfied there aren't too many Wilders types with chances in general elections. Not easy to persuade people to leave the UK, if so. I suspect the SNP are hoping to get in before any inkling of a deal ...

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Where would a transitional UK-EU deal leave the SNP? It might not be too bad, provided the EU are satisfied there aren't too many Wilders types with chances in general elections. Not easy to persuade people to leave the UK, if so. I suspect the SNP are hoping to get in before any inkling of a deal ...

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Tubby Isaacs wrote: I reckon the Tories would be delighted to have 3 years of letting the SNP bang on about independence.

Nobody will notice - it's what the SNP do all the time.

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Mhairi Hunter‏ @MhairiHunter Tories! We're starting #Scotref campaigning in May. If you want it to go on for 4 years instead of 18 months that's up to you. I think they'll skip the first 3 years, and attack you for not sorting the schools etc. I would have thought Ms Hunter's immediate priority mig...

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Leverage over May within the UK. That's not really an argument for leaving. If Sturgeon gets her referendum, I wouldn't expect her to win. None of the big questions raised in 2014 have been answered and with the price of oil plummeting, the economic prognosis is considerably worse. The fact that 60...

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Leverage over May within the UK. That's not really an argument for leaving. If Sturgeon gets her referendum, I wouldn't expect her to win. None of the big questions raised in 2014 have been answered and with the price of oil plummeting, the economic prognosis is considerably worse. The fact that 60...

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The British Government has ruled out introducing Irish border posts after leaving the EU. Brexit Secretary David Davis said the UK would adopt technology to cover the movement of goods between Northern Ireland and the Republic. He gave evidence to his Westminster scrutiny committee about the future...

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Petition against indyref2 now at 109,000 signatures and still rising.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/180642

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Theresa May expected to tour UK in effort to forge Brexit consensus (Guardian) Theresa May - Unplugged I hear the support act is rumoured to be Nigel Farage. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/14/theresa-may-tour-the-uk-eu-effort-to-forge-brexit-consensus I think there's a 't' missing ju...

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Anti-indyref petition passed the 3/4 mark for possible debate in parliament!

(77,000 and still rising).

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Petition against another Scottish referendum now at 53,000+ signatures Another Scottish independence referendum should not be allowed to happen We in Scotland are fed up of persecution by the SNP leader who is solely intent on getting independence at any cost. As a result, Scotland is suffering huge...

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I want a referendum on what day to have referenda. There's a warning about too many referenda in a film from the 70s "The Rise and Rise of Michael Rimmer": But the film's last really good idea has Rimmer, now Prime Minister, inundating the electorate with referendums on every conceivable ...

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I've only just learned that Britannia even still exists. I thought it had gone off with the Fighting Temeraire. No - making a bob or two in Edinburgh: http://www.royalyachtbritannia.co.uk/ Where's England's share of the money? ;) Where's Scotland's share of the cash from HMS Belfast? :lol:

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Tubby Isaacs wrote:I've only just learned that Britannia even still exists.

I thought it had gone off with the Fighting Temeraire.

No - making a bob or two in Edinburgh:

http://www.royalyachtbritannia.co.uk/

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I believe that measures such as a new royal yacht, it is one of a number of measures that I am sure this government will be able to consider. It is my view that it would indeed add greatly to the soft power of this country, a soft power which is already very considerable. The new Britannia should n...

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Sturgeon has no choice politically. She can't wait until post-hard Brexit to make her move. It is possible the Nats will win. Two factors have shifted 1. The EU. Scotland would be offered fast track membership IMO. The choice is now staying in the EU or staying in the UK. If I were Scottish I'd sti...

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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
They basically had to rethink all the law (with mixed results) when the Euro crisis happened. They'll bodge up a deal on Scotland joining easily enough.

Juncker's the deal man.

Possibly - but why would they bother? (And Scotland doesn't even have sea links to continental Europe).

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Scotland doesn't really matter at all to the EU. It won't be vetoed, but it's not going to be anything like a priority. What the EU will want is whatever gets the best result with the UK. That need not be cliff edge Brexit. It could involve some kind of transitional deal, with the UK being weakened...

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Scotland doesn't really matter at all to the EU. It won't be vetoed, but it's not going to be anything like a priority. What the EU will want is whatever gets the best result with the UK. That need not be cliff edge Brexit. It could involve some kind of transitional deal, with the UK being weakened...

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Don't take that too seriously. They're deal makers. It's the same as the SNP were told in 2014. They were pealing off the side of another member state, like Catalonia would try to do. Not the case now. Spain isn't leaving. Irrelevant whether the UK is still in the EU or not. The Treaties apply to t...

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And it is hard not to see the cringeworthy "Irn Bru" stunts by Jim Murphy as somewhat symbolic of Scottish Labour's maladroitness that helped lead to their collapse. (even I found them naff, the reaction of several Scots who felt patronised beyond belief was unprintable) Seriously, who ad...

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And it is hard not to see the cringeworthy "Irn Bru" stunts by Jim Murphy as somewhat symbolic of Scottish Labour's maladroitness that helped lead to their collapse. (even I found them naff, the reaction of several Scots who felt patronised beyond belief was unprintable) Seriously, who ad...

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/12/mhairi-black-may-quit-depressing-parliament-after-single-term-as-mp Mhairi Black may quit 'depressing' parliament after single term as MP SNP politician, who in 2015 became youngest MP elected to parliament in centuries, says she hates Westminster I'...

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Somebody on Twitter suggested the manner in which Rebecca Long-Bailey was referring to Kezia Dugdale didn't exactly suggest they were on the same side. Any truth in that? TBH, it's getting difficult to see who's on which side: On a visit to Glasgow on Saturday for the party’s economic conference, l...

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One for Eric. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15150402.Watchdog_rebukes_SNP_Health_Secretary_over_comparisons_with_NHS_in_England/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; SNP minister saying their own failings are less than England's failings? Nah, that can't be true :lol: Reade...

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Somebody on Twitter suggested the manner in which Rebecca Long-Bailey was referring to Kezia Dugdale didn't exactly suggest they were on the same side. Any truth in that? TBH, it's getting difficult to see who's on which side: On a visit to Glasgow on Saturday for the party’s economic conference, l...

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One for Eric. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15150402.Watchdog_rebukes_SNP_Health_Secretary_over_comparisons_with_NHS_in_England/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; HEALTH Secretary Shona Robison has been pulled up by the UK Statistics Authority after making negative compa...

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A good question. I suppose an SNP argument might be that circumstances have changed with Brexit and so on? Of course the SNP thrive on a culture of grievance (and perceived grievance) and will use any excuse for another try for independence. I can agree with them that circumstances have changed (fo...

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Oh dear. nicola is understandably delighted. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/11/jeremy-corbyn-absolutely-fine-with-second-scottish-independence-referendum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; He seems completely unaware that constitutional matters are reserved to W...

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Oh dear. nicola is understandably delighted. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/11/jeremy-corbyn-absolutely-fine-with-second-scottish-independence-referendum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; He seems completely unaware that constitutional matters are reserved to W...

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Is it cynical to wonder about the sudden referencing of the police, Rahman and electoral fraud by the BBC? The Indie has also resurrected an electoral fraud story: Two Conservative activists have accused the party of “telling lies” over allegations it broke election laws in a number of key seats in...

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Peers in the House of Lords have voted down calls for a second referendum on the terms of the final Brexit deal by an overwhelming majority. Labour's leader in the Lords, Baroness Smith of Basildon, said her party could not support the amendment and would abstain in the vote. She said there had bee...

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Jolyon Maugham quotes this from the relevant Act. It's salary, not that it makes any difference to the tax paid (deducted at source). https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6PzyRiWAAAcQvd.jpg Somebody suggests that the salary, if quoted as such might have sounded too much. Nothing sinister - financial amount...

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Jolyon Maugham quotes this from the relevant Act. It's salary, not that it makes any difference to the tax paid (deducted at source). https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6PzyRiWAAAcQvd.jpg Somebody suggests that the salary, if quoted as such might have sounded too much. Nothing sinister - financial amount...

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Sweden to Trump: What happened last night? Sweden's Aftonbladet website helpfully summarised the day in news, which included: ◾A man setting himself on fire at a plaza in central Stockholm ◾Famous singer Owe Thornqvist suffering technical problems in rehearsals for the aforementioned Melfest ◾A man...

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