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yahyah

Anyway, I need cheering up. Tripped on a kerb edge and fell head first today. Twisted my ankle, tore the knee of my new trousers and grazed my knee through the hole. Am confined to the sofa now and in pain, couldn't go coastal walking as we'd planned. Dreaming of a new idol for the grassroots helps ...

yahyah

Oh, don't be a spoilsport Paul.
The only semi-positive thing to come out of this whole sorry Lexit/Brexit mess is that St Jez's halo has slipped. It's only human nature to want to gossip about how far it's going to fall.

yahyah

I thought that when I read it. A foregone conclusion that the amendments don't stand a chance ?

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AS' blog has a quote from a Politicshome piece that made me chuckle.

'One well-placed source said ''Corbyn's team are very irritated with Clive. By resigning, he will get the love and support of all the young lefty members who are appalled by Corbyn's stance on Article 50'' '.

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Ukip sources tell a local political reporter that Nuttall will be moving in 'very soon'.

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Just read Gaby Hinchcliff's piece on Ed M. Can't help wondering ''what if ?'' about how much better he'd do if he was taking on the leadership now not back in 2010 when he was a bit wet behind the ears. Not sure that's true to be fair to EM - he had been a cabinet minister, and also a minister in t...

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Kate Green says she will abstain.

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Just read Gaby Hinchcliff's piece on Ed M. Can't help wondering ''what if ?'' about how much better he'd do if he was taking on the leadership now not back in 2010 when he was a bit wet behind the ears.

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Thanks JA.

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Maybe it'll poke at a few consciences. Where are tory MPs consciences? Haven't been seen for ages, on any subject. If a few speak up over brexit it'll hardly make up for everything else they've done. I'd guess that Ken Clarke was less than impressed with Gideon's austerity programme in 2010, becaus...

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What a rotten day, to have to praise a Tory for standing up for people who have a right to be represented.

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Maybe it'll poke at a few consciences.

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Not sure if this is word for word from Clarke.
''I've had times as a Tory MP when the country voted Labour. Tory whips never told me I had to respect the decision and vote Labour''.

Well done him. He quoted Burke at the end. He's been applauded.

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Anyone hear Ken Clarke ?

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You call it cowardice pk1, others call it realism. I do ask people here to remember that REGARDLESS of what Labour MPs do, A50 is going to be passed because almost ALL Tories (and DUP) will vote for it. What then? Did you have the same outlook when Harriet instructed Labour to vote for second readi...

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Don't Trump's actions shows that sometimes the Opposition should go against 'the will of the people'.

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Does anyone else remember, during the POTUS election campaign, hearing Democrat/left leaning people interviewed who said they wouldn't vote for Clinton ? Some said they didn't care if Trump won because Clinton was so corrupt, dangerous etc. they couldn't possibly vote for her. Wonder how they feel n...

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Good morning. Couldn't agree more. http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/01/29/coirbyn-is-a-disaster-on-article-50/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; At least that has an apology at the start. The likes of Monbiot, Williams and Jones need to apologise too, and not just admi...

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Thanks.

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Carwyn Jones' statement on Trump.
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Good to hear Corbyn, Farron and other leaders in agreement on postponing/cancelling the state visit.

yahyah

Where have you been reading about it Paul ?

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@JA Did you see the pic of Corbyn, his wife, and Ruth Smeeth eating oat cakes in a cafe ?
Not strictly baked goods, but nearly.

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Telling voters, Remainers or others, what they should think using one's own logic or view, isn't usually successful is it ? 'Emotional' was a word used in the past to enforce the idea women should not be eligible to vote. Anyone who thinks they are operating completely outside of the effect of emoti...

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The ONS statistician quoted in the mortality reports has a twitter account.
If you don't tweet yourself it may be worth asking someone to tweet her your question SC ?

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AngryAsWell wrote:To be honest I've more interest in how/when someone overthrows May

Make it a BOGOF deal.

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Something to feel hopeful about.

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I was just clutching at straws in the hope that some new, improved and quick way of sorting out the mess had suddenly presented itself.

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How could it be done ? What would it take ?

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@Willow.

Did you see this too ?
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AK, I voted for Watson as deputy. It was a toss-up between him and Creasy. So I'm not the only one. I naively thought that it would help unify the party having Watson & Corbyn work together, as well as being impressed by all the digital stuff. I bet you all are glad I won't have a vote next tim...

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Thanks Refitman. I'll try and resize it again. Thought I'd got it right.

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Brain Drain ! Don't be negative, embrace the opportunity. Explain it away as a good thing, part of draining the elite swamp.

edited to add. - Refitman - I'm not sure why my posts are coming out so big, the text box is bigger than I'm using.

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Jezza allegedly beat a hasty retreat when a Press Association reporter asked about the Stoke Labour candidate calling him ''an IRA supporting friend of Hamas career politician'' in a Tweet last year.

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Wonder if JA's out and about in Stoke today ?

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Press AssociationVerified account ‏@PA Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn refuses to give an interview as he hits the by-election campaign trail in Stoke-on-Trent https://twitter.com/PA/status/825343181189423104" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; What IS the matter with him ! ? Actua...

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And Seumus Milne is a done deal now. Wake me up when it's over.

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And I hope people appreciate that on a few things I say, I am playing devil's advocate to a degree. I am far from convinced myself that a three line whip on A50 is either justified or clever politics. But we have the situation where the likes of John Woodcock are saying "I agree with Corbyn&qu...

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Is it too much to ask that Labour point that out, and point it out loudly ? - referring to the posts about the Euro and rejoining. Remainers are stuffed, in our lifetimes at any rate. Labour is helping stuff us. I thought yesterday some sense was prevailing, seeing people who normally lionise Corbyn...

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I see Owen Smith involved with that Article 50 Single Market bill. Can we assume that wanted posters are going up in Brexit Pontypridd? I hope you checked your spelling before posting that . . . Ha ha. YahYah pointed out that what I wrote was the name of the health board. Silly me got it from my pa...

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The right side of history will be to oppose Brexit. The side of openness, tolerance and progress. The side of avoiding financial instability, so that you can have some money to fund public services. The side Labour should be on, basically. The wrong thing to do will be to nod through a bill that co...

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Its not as simple as that, unfortunately - most Labour seats voted for Brexit. And can we please stop talking about "the 48%" (or indeed "the 52%") as some homogenous bloc who all believe the same thing? Not least because around half of "remain" voters think the refere...

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Am, let's say, "disappointed" to discover that having a different view from a bigoted idiot renders me "sneering". They have no idea how this is coming across, do they? I can't believe that they have no idea (if they really do have no idea, then they really are unbelievably stup...

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One of the Watson pitches that won people over 18 months ago was his pledge to promote and develop digital democracy. Has anything - at all - happened on this since then? You are my husband and I claim my £5. That's one of the things that influenced the two votes in our household. My other half was...

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Never mind Corbyn, hands up who voted for Watson in 2015 and now regrets it? :( :oops: Both of them are disasters for Labour in their own uniquely awful ways. They both had the spiel, the 'trust me' look in their eyes. Now it is apparent neither could lead a starving cat to a plate of its favourite...

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It's awful though - the headline sounds like a spoof, but the story behind it is sad.

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HindleA wrote:Morning

Maybe vitamin deficiency.

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I love you HA.

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Labour List trail it as Watson delivering an 'upbeat' message and seeking to move Labour on from the Article 50 turmoil.
Good luck with that. ''How we can learn to love Brexit'' like the other <insert icon stephen dolan used>

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Wait until he actually delivers the speech. He may not mean what he says. Corbyn said one thing and actually meant another earlier in the week.

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Morning. Thought I'd open the weekend thread while the porridge simmers.

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