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50 billion figure (a,bit out of date but gives,what they include) https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/50-billion-annual-spend-on-support-and-benefits-for-disabled-people" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; It's my understanding that if you quote a source, that source sho...

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Getting waaaaaaaay too tribal in here. May I remind folks in here that the election is not about Labour beating the coalition government, it's about installing a government that represents the electorate. Labour may be better suited to do that (to my mind, anyway) but they also need to be held to a...

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From btl AS outoftouch2010 2m ago McVey just said they had spent £50 billion a year on the disabled. Hm! Any thoughts Well, 500 million of that was on ATOS. The rest is, of course, bollocks. http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/government_expenditure.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);ret...

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And having looked at Freud's interview, I can see some sympathy with what he said; people who want to work and earn their own money, but for whom no amount of support can ever make them competitive with an able bodied person. As they already get an allowance for being unable to hold full time work, ...

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"An easy Cameron win"

I dunno; I liked Miliband's bit about "I lost a couple of paragraphs of my speech; he lost two MPs [Three if you count Brooks Newmark]"

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Ah, good old British values, which must be promoted at any costs.

Er, do we have an idea of what they are yet?

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Velvet Revolution? Orange Revolution? Rose Revolution?

Dance Dance Revolution?

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Jason Groves in the Daily Mail says the Carr report, being published today, will show that trade unions are using Facebook bullying, violence, inflatable rats and even IRA-style dirty protests to intimidate employers and strike-breakers. Not . . Not the inflatable rat! Call in the UN! And I'd be pr...

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Much disgust with Nick Robinson this morning. Heywood was actually an improvement for Labour. If we weight the turnout against the last election, Labour's numbers actually increased. What seems to have happened is that most of the 10.5K disillusioned Liberal Democrats just decided to stay at home an...

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Morgan just tried to claim that schools in academy trusts were autonomous bodies...and got slapped down by Graham Stuart who said that they weren't remotely autonomous but under direct control of the trusts. :clap: So Quasi Autonomous Non Governmental Organisations, then. How's that bonfire going? ...

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Separated at birth:

Douglas Carswell

Jonathan King

Are they related; we should be told

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In my experience, lots of working class Eastern Europeans tend to smoke. So if we take the proposal for banning smoking in public spaces, won't this work as a further disincentive to any erstwhile immigrants. Square that circle, Farage!

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What is to stop the tories/media coming up with new trojan horse stories pre-election? If they do, Tristram will be in a poor position to fend them off, because he has accepted lies as truth and they will denounce him for 'being weak' against radical islam or whatever. To me you can't maintain a co...

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, Labour already had the infrastructure in place when they established the Regional Select Committees, whose raison d'etre was to look at the implications of legislature on English regions as defined by the EU elections. Sure you had a system where a governme...

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Morning all - just a regular reminder that in the last Euro elections the Greens polled more than the Lib Dems, and that they are polling more than the Lib Dems on most opinion polls. Also, good to see at least lip service paid to the recognition of Palestine as an independent state last night; the ...

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Actually I have a feeling this could be the media doing a sly one on Empty Dave. He has been running scared from the debates for 4 years. I hear he now supports the Greens being included if UKIP are. Easy enough for the broadcasters to say ok, and pull the rug from under daves feet. If he keeps obj...

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The SNP are kicking up about not being included in the Leader's Debates, but I think it's pretty clear that unless you stand in every constituency (or 325 at least) then there is literally no chance of you being the next leader of the country. Now, if Scotland want to have a debate for their MSP el...

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The SNP are kicking up about not being included in the Leader's Debates, but I think it's pretty clear that unless you stand in every constituency (or 325 at least) then there is literally no chance of you being the next leader of the country. Now, if Scotland want to have a debate for their MSP ele...

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Pants; I meant giselle. Apologies to both ladies.

I remember doing Comic Relief at the Coca Cola call centre; turned around from a call and got Brian Mawhinney's gleaming chops thrust in my face. Literally the stuff nightmares are made of.

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I bought a Peterborough Evening Telegraph last week to see what was being said by/about Stewart Jackson MP where someone had said he was a possible UKIP man. That wouldn't have surprised me at all! What say you Lonewolfie? Did you read the article about £3m energy park cost with Jackson bashing the...

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Debates, wuhooh! Seeing as Miliband is wierd and useless, Cameron is prime ministerial and the Conservatives want May to be a presidential style election the Tories will be chomping at the bit presumably? [/Sarcasm] Why does Farridge get a place at one of the debates rather than, say the leading MP...

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Too many bloody articles on Farage for my liking; giving him the oxygen of publicity, and in the words of Linda Smith, I'm not that chuffed about him having the oxygen of oxygen, to be honest.

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For me, the Green policy on nuclear is a redline and an indication of quixotic idealism without scientific basis, although I understand its under discussion as its still better than cracking. I voted for them in the Euros, because a Europe-wide approach might actually make a difference policy wise b...

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Paul Nuttal off of the UKIPs on Any Questions simultaneously called for a minimum health requirement whilst claiming that Spain wouldn't send our people back because they're "pensioners" What kind of health check would an 80 year old retiree have to pass to return to the UK or would we hav...

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There's literally no point in wasting resources in Rotherham. There's only 9 months left, so only 6 months until campaigning for the general; parliament only sitting for about half of that. Much better to let the Tories and UKIP thrash it out between them.

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The spammers are back... All (permanently) removed. I meant to put the Q&A verification live last night, but forgot (emoticon for slightly forgetful/ashamed). It's now in place, and should prevent our botlike chums coming on here. It should be straightforward to answer if you're genuine. If any...

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All (permanently) removed. I meant to put the Q&A verification live last night, but forgot (emoticon for slightly forgetful/ashamed). It's now in place, and should prevent our botlike chums coming on here. It should be straightforward to answer if you're genuine. If anyone fancies trying to reg...

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UK Stats Authority have rebuked Cameron claim that the government ''are paying down the debts'' PDF report otherwise I would link. Public Sector Net Borrowing (excluding public sector banks) was estimated to be £133.9 billion in the 2010/11 financial year and £99.3 billion in 2013/14, an estimated ...

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Interesting; if you plug the YouGOVs into electoral calculus, and with an underplayed UKIP vote, you get this table. National Prediction: LAB short 10 of majority Party 2010 Votes 2010 Seats Pred Votes Gains Losses Pred Seats CON 36.97% 307 35.00% 28 39 296 LAB 29.66% 258 34.00% 58 0 316 LIB 23.56% ...

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2778497/Liberal-Democrat-peer-claims-entering-House-Lords-unaffordable-normal-people-tax-free-allowance-300-day-isn-t-enough.html Serving in the House of Lords is ‘unaffordable’ for normal people because peers only get a tax-free allowance of £300 a day, a se...

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QT tonight: Never heard of Susan Boniface. Charlie Mullins is well to the right of UKIP. Peaky Blinders is back tonight. I thought the first series was excellent. Glad to see Wonga making the news just in time for a Creasy appearance. Shall we guess the talking over and chairman interruption quotie...

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Morning all. Two contrasting Ofsted reports this morning. 1. A no-notice inspection of Islamia Primary School (and yes, you can guess why...) on the grounds that "the Chief Inspector was concerned about the effectiveness of safeguarding arrangements at the school." But, but there's a lady...

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The tax giveaway is starting to unravel already, as it's pointed out that uprating the LEL in line with 2.5% inflation per year would pretty much take the existing thresholds to that point anyway by 2020. Also, as well as "Green Crap", it's been noted that he didn't say anything about Inhe...

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Jason Beattie ‏@JBeattieMirror 6m6 minutes ago So higher rate taxpayers get the benefit of the rise from £10,500 to £12,500 and from higher rate going up. = £1,900 tax break. Just like higher rate taxpayers got the benefit from the rise to £10,000 too. In fact I think there was a study saying that ...

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Danny Alexander, failing to understand irony. The Tories shameless attempt to copy Liberal Democrat tax policy will be utterly incredible to the millions of working people who they have made clear will be their main target for cuts in the next parliament. The Conservatives opposed increases to the t...

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The whole thing was an emetic, but this was the part that made me particularly dry heave

But the Conservative party is a union too; it is union representing parents, who want the best for their children.

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And, of course, he's going to get "Full employment" by kicking the young off the unemployment figures - trebles all round!

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Cameron gives MPs an extra Pay rise. 10% not enough? Have another four grand on top! What? I thought that was down to the independent commission now? Upper band threshold £41,900; Cameron raises it to £50,000. That means anyone earning over £50,000 pays 20% instead of 40% on tax over that 8 grand r...

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"Young people watched Location, Location, Location not as a reality show, but as a fantasy. I thought it was a fantasy. For most people, anyway. The couple of editions I've seen hardly presented a story of everyday people. "So Jocasta and Peregrine are looking for a five bed house in Isli...

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"Young people watched Location, Location, Location not as a reality show, but as a fantasy.

Nice backstab at his good friend Kirsty Allsop, there.

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Cameron gives MPs an extra Pay rise.

10% not enough? Have another four grand on top!

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Nailed it!

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Lowest Corporation tax in G20? More smoke and mirrors http://www.fiscalonline.com/UK-corporate-tax-far-from-the-most,3290.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; The UK Government has stated that it aims to have the most competitive corporate tax regime in the G20. It has annou...

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The thing that annoys me about the Guardian at the moment is that most of their politics stories seem to be sidelined into Society. I wonder whether this is because it confuses Australians and Americans, but from a mobile device you cannot find politics without actually typing it into the address ba...

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David Davies eh, the Monmouth Moron, that would be splendid. He ticks many boxes that Farage would love to fill to broaden the party's appeal. 1. Young 2. Married to a European (So not racist) 3. Not English 4. Went to a comprehensive and worked before entering politics More traditionally for Farag...

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Morning all. I'm putting my money on David TC Davies to jump ship; as well as being a Europhobe he's a hardline Christian who's never agreed with Cameron's view on gay marriage and it'll give the press a chance to say "David Davies joins UKIP (The other one)" And I still think Cameron's go...

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The Prepaid Cards idea is ridiculous and assumes that these "feral people" live isolated lives where they never know anyone who's not on benefits. In practice, what will happen is that they'll either: 1. Go shopping with someone who doesn't have a card and buy their shopping for them in ex...

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Okay, hats off to Teresa May; this is a brave speech to make when those on the right of your party are hanging their hats on shoogly pegs. Guidos people must be up in arms: This hateful ideology has nothing to do with Islam itself. And it is rejected by the overwhelming majority of Muslims in Britai...

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'Ello. I remember when all this was nowt but Red bits, and now we seem to have gone blue. So I had been enjoying sparring with Kippers and Cybernats for a while, but now that Beta has kicked in, I am completely unable to see any comments at all. I feel for Andrew, who's going to a lose a few of his ...

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