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by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 05 May, 2017 11:19 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 5th April 2017
Replies: 217
Views: 52105

Re: Friday 5th April 2017

https://twitter.com/AbiWilks/status/860414098324033536 It's not complicated, is it? Entirely predictable from the Tory conference onwards. Not sure you could say so before that, because it was still just about possible to regard May as the "sensible" alternative after three months of utte...
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 05 May, 2017 10:59 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 5th April 2017
Replies: 217
Views: 52105

Re: Friday 5th April 2017

It isn't much consolation but a certain Eoin chappy is looking pretty stupid this morning. Faith based analysis has finally hit cold hard reality.
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 05 May, 2017 10:51 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 5th April 2017
Replies: 217
Views: 52105

Re: Friday 5th April 2017

Ukips wiped out. That is good. And this is still true, locals are not a good guide of national vote https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/05/01/why-local-elections-are-not-useful-indicators-nati/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; They haven't been wiped out, they've just gone underg...
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 05 May, 2017 10:31 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 5th April 2017
Replies: 217
Views: 52105

Re: Friday 5th April 2017

An important point in assessing Labour's vote is understanding where the Ukips vote came from https://www.ncpolitics.uk/2015/11/new-ncp-analysis-where-the-polls-went-wrong.html/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; It cam almost exactly equally from Tory and Labour. So if it col...
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 05 May, 2017 12:43 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 4th May 2017
Replies: 113
Views: 33993

Re: Thursday 4th May 2017

Anybody care to speculate on losses? On current trends about 3000, but presumably not.
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 05 May, 2017 12:34 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 4th May 2017
Replies: 113
Views: 33993

Re: Thursday 4th May 2017

As far as I can tell Labour getting roundly hammered in Warwickshire elections.
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 05 May, 2017 12:04 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 4th May 2017
Replies: 113
Views: 33993

Re: Thursday 4th May 2017

China is finally proving that if it looks like it can't go on forever, then it can't. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/05/04/commodities-slump-china-tremors-opec-failure/ When you combine this, Trumpism and Brexit, plus the continued problems of the PIGS (where I stands for Italy), things co...
by TechnicalEphemera
Thu 04 May, 2017 11:54 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 4th May 2017
Replies: 113
Views: 33993

Re: Thursday 4th May 2017

SpinningHugo wrote:Rebecca Long-Bailey is a perfectly decent MP.

But you'd have to be crazy (or John McDonnell) to think she is a viable leader.
Yes, her performances provide ample testament to that. It is a sign of desperation that she is seen as their best option.
by TechnicalEphemera
Thu 04 May, 2017 11:20 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 4th May 2017
Replies: 113
Views: 33993

Re: Thursday 4th May 2017

It wasn't as good for Labour as 2012 was, but was still better than some of the instant punditry suggested. My insta-punditry is that Lynton Crosby knows what he is doing and it looks bad. GE will be worse. Bring back the Prince of Darkness. Please. Anecdote isn't evidence. My anecdote is that toda...
by TechnicalEphemera
Thu 04 May, 2017 10:58 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 4th May 2017
Replies: 113
Views: 33993

Re: Thursday 4th May 2017

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/local-election-results-night-2017-10226506" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; So if Labour gain or lose seats, you’re measuring their performance against the middle of Ed Miliband’s time in charge nationally. In 2013, Labour gained nearly ...
by TechnicalEphemera
Thu 04 May, 2017 10:45 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 4th May 2017
Replies: 113
Views: 33993

Re: Thursday 4th May 2017

This is seriously bad news. The snoopers charter is basically going to screw encryption. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/04/uk_bulk_surveillance_powers_draft/ Now a disclaimer - security is hard. I am not an expert and I am wildly speculating here. In due course I imagine the experts will provi...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 03 May, 2017 11:09 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 3rd May 2017
Replies: 147
Views: 47318

Re: Wednesday 3rd May 2017

Westminster voting intention: CON: 48% (+2) LAB: 24% (-) LDEM: 11% (-) UKIP: 7% (-1) (via @TNS_UK / 27 Apr - 02 May) Feels about right, we will get a degree of reality check in the national equivalent vote tomorrow. Still a little surprised that the Lib Dems have flatlined, I would have expected be...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 03 May, 2017 11:00 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 3rd May 2017
Replies: 147
Views: 47318

Re: Wednesday 3rd May 2017

NonOxCol wrote:

Go fuck yourselves. Again.
Yeah, and soft pinko liberals won't authorise a first strike with Trident. I will. Give me one now and I will launch at the Daily Mail immediately.
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 03 May, 2017 10:56 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 3rd May 2017
Replies: 147
Views: 47318

Re: Wednesday 3rd May 2017

NonOxCol wrote:

Go. Fuck. Yourselves.
On the bright side, perfect location for an asteroid strike.

You would have to work pretty hard to find a more clueless and odious bunch.
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 03 May, 2017 10:40 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 3rd May 2017
Replies: 147
Views: 47318

Re: Wednesday 3rd May 2017

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/may/03/baby-boomers-warned-over-alcohol-intake-as-hospital-admissions-soar Baby boomers warned over alcohol intake as hospital admissions soar Alcohol was the primary or secondary issue in an estimated 1.1m admissions in 2015/16, up 64% from a decade ago Yep...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 03 May, 2017 10:35 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 3rd May 2017
Replies: 147
Views: 47318

Re: Wednesday 3rd May 2017

Westminster voting intention: CON: 48% (+2) LAB: 24% (-) LDEM: 11% (-) UKIP: 7% (-1) (via @TNS_UK / 27 Apr - 02 May) Feels about right, we will get a degree of reality check in the national equivalent vote tomorrow. Still a little surprised that the Lib Dems have flatlined, I would have expected be...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 03 May, 2017 10:31 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 3rd May 2017
Replies: 147
Views: 47318

Re: Wednesday 3rd May 2017

https://stv.tv/news/politics/1387400-ruth-davidson-on-rape-clause-all-they-do-is-tick-a-box/ Ruth Davidson on rape clause: All they do is tick a box Shocking, maybe one day she will see what a gigantic arse she is being. I'm not defending Ruth Davidson but imo the SNP (who have been going on about ...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 03 May, 2017 10:09 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 3rd May 2017
Replies: 147
Views: 47318

Re: Wednesday 3rd May 2017

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/theresa-may-european-politicians-general-election-trumps-playbook-a7716166.html True, she may be consciously following the Donald Trump playbook instead. That dictates that, when in a tight corner, you calculatedly attack the media or make up some half-baked cons...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 03 May, 2017 9:41 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 3rd May 2017
Replies: 147
Views: 47318

Re: Wednesday 3rd May 2017

AK, not everybody who regards Corbyn as a Tory enabling disaster with dubious morals is a Blairite. Many of us were delighted with Ed Miliband as leader, and similarly Kinnock and Smith. You may refer to us as centre left. Sure we were happy with Blair 97-2005+, who wouldn't be. We were in power and...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 03 May, 2017 9:35 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 3rd May 2017
Replies: 147
Views: 47318

Re: Wednesday 3rd May 2017

HindleA wrote:https://stv.tv/news/politics/1387400-ru ... ick-a-box/


Ruth Davidson on rape clause: All they do is tick a box
Shocking, maybe one day she will see what a gigantic arse she is being.
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 03 May, 2017 12:04 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 2nd May 2017
Replies: 110
Views: 34902

Re: Tuesday 2nd May 2017

RogerOThornhill wrote:There's some marvellous replies to this rather ill-considered tweet from a Tory candidate.

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Shocking, the hatred, scorn and vitriol thrown at him.

Brilliant stuff.
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 02 May, 2017 9:37 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 2nd May 2017
Replies: 110
Views: 34902

Re: Tuesday 2nd May 2017

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/theresa-may/news/85581/tory-candidates-forced-have" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Tory candidates are being ordered to have Theresa May's name on their election billboards. ... The move is a clear si...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 02 May, 2017 9:08 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 2nd May 2017
Replies: 110
Views: 34902

Re: Tuesday 2nd May 2017

Repeat,as to why https://nearlylegal.co.uk/housing-law-all/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; "The DWP might have thought they were seeking to close off one form of FTT decision rejecting bedroom tax decisions, but the result has been an Upper Tribunal decision opening u...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 02 May, 2017 8:10 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 2nd May 2017
Replies: 110
Views: 34902

Re: Tuesday 2nd May 2017

I am grimly imagining the Labour Party wrap for the day. Perhaps unfairly I envisage a slightly hassled middle aged man or woman saying something like this. "Hello everybody, so you remember after Dawn Butler's interview and Jeremy's Trident question we asked you to prepare properly for media i...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 02 May, 2017 7:12 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 2nd May 2017
Replies: 110
Views: 34902

Re: Tuesday 2nd May 2017

SpinningHugo wrote:
Temulkar wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:

1. Well, it is a view. These things are, of course, matters of opinion. I'd suggest however that my view represents the overwhelming consensus (outside the Canary and CorbynSuperFan). A conspiracy, no doubt.
Hmmm - Hugo, CorbynSuperFan is an awesome parody, as you well know.
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 02 May, 2017 6:46 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 2nd May 2017
Replies: 110
Views: 34902

Re: Tuesday 2nd May 2017

I think that most people actually support a "no first use" policy on nukes. Fallon certainly does not speak for even all Tories with his neanderthal take on this. First use doctrine was a NATO position to deter conventional war in Europe by the Soviet Union, given the perceived superiorit...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 29 Apr, 2017 4:19 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 29th April, Sunday 30th April & Monday 1st May 2017
Replies: 243
Views: 60684

Re: Saturday 29th April, Sunday 30th April & Monday 1st May

When the Telegraph is running a Corbyn piece you know you are doing something wrong with your strategy. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/29/jeremy-corbyn-arrest-protesting-apartheid-shows-ready-lead-britain/ Nice to see him placing the blame for the 2008 crash firmly on Labour. I expect Cons...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 29 Apr, 2017 4:14 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 29th April, Sunday 30th April & Monday 1st May 2017
Replies: 243
Views: 60684

Re: Saturday 29th April, Sunday 30th April & Monday 1st May

When the Telegraph is running a Corbyn piece you know you are doing something wrong with your strategy. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/29/jeremy-corbyn-arrest-protesting-apartheid-shows-ready-lead-britain/ Nice to see him placing the blame for the 2008 crash firmly on Labour. I expect Cons...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 29 Apr, 2017 1:39 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 29th April, Sunday 30th April & Monday 1st May 2017
Replies: 243
Views: 60684

Re: Saturday 29th April, Sunday 30th April & Monday 1st May

When the Telegraph is running a Corbyn piece you know you are doing something wrong with your strategy. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/29/jeremy-corbyn-arrest-protesting-apartheid-shows-ready-lead-britain/ Nice to see him placing the blame for the 2008 crash firmly on Labour. I expect Conse...
by TechnicalEphemera
Sat 29 Apr, 2017 1:31 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 29th April, Sunday 30th April & Monday 1st May 2017
Replies: 243
Views: 60684

Re: Saturday 29th April, Sunday 30th April & Monday 1st May

Since the Irish border strikes me as just about the trickiest problem of the lot, and will most likely shape the rest of the settlement, that is an interesting precondition.

I guess you could make Northern Ireland a member of the EEA. That moves the problem to the British border.
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 28 Apr, 2017 10:35 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 28th April 2017
Replies: 105
Views: 28304

Re: Friday 28th April 2017

And while I am here 2015 was not a shattering defeat, it was a close defeat much like 1992. And if by doing ok you mean recording the worst local election results of an opposition party since 1984, you have an odd definition of doing ok.
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 28 Apr, 2017 10:32 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 28th April 2017
Replies: 105
Views: 28304

Re: Friday 28th April 2017

Above,

You can't blame the electorate for anything. They are the customer - often misguided but always right. Their decision is also final, until the next election.
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 28 Apr, 2017 10:27 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 28th April 2017
Replies: 105
Views: 28304

Re: Friday 28th April 2017

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ge-cartoon


Martin Rowson on the London garden bridge
What? How did he get on it, I thought it had been cancelled.
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 28 Apr, 2017 10:26 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 28th April 2017
Replies: 105
Views: 28304

Re: Friday 28th April 2017

by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 28 Apr, 2017 10:02 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 28th April 2017
Replies: 105
Views: 28304

Re: Friday 28th April 2017

AK, above. Thanks for the sheer effort you put in, not just the results but context. Not just this week, but every week.
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 28 Apr, 2017 9:59 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 28th April 2017
Replies: 105
Views: 28304

Re: Friday 28th April 2017

I guess in hard times it is uncharitable, but possibly cheering, to laugh at those even less fortunate. However I did enjoy Mr Crace, who seems to have recovered from his Can't be arsed period with this excellent profile of Nutters. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/28/paul-nuttall-hosta...
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 28 Apr, 2017 9:16 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 28th April 2017
Replies: 105
Views: 28304

Re: Friday 28th April 2017

General election 2017: Key Corbyn allies not selected by Labour 36 minutes ago (as at 20.57) (BBC News website) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39747199 In some ways this doesn't really matter. The more seats Labour loses the stronger Corbyn's position, very few of his allies are vulnerable. ...
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 28 Apr, 2017 9:01 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 28th April 2017
Replies: 105
Views: 28304

Re: Friday 28th April 2017

Tory competence https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/apr/28/garden-bridge-dead-38m-public-money-repaid-boris-johnson" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; can you explain to me why McDonnell and Corbyn are automatically assumed to do worse than this bunch on corrupt uppe...
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 28 Apr, 2017 8:51 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 28th April 2017
Replies: 105
Views: 28304

Re: Friday 28th April 2017

AnatolyKasparov wrote:As somebody has pointed out - if the Tories can swiftly get rid of Turner after that outburst, why can't Labour dump Danczuk?
I believe the problems are well documented. The real question I would ask is why hadn't they finished his hearing months ago.
by TechnicalEphemera
Fri 28 Apr, 2017 6:36 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 28th April 2017
Replies: 105
Views: 28304

Re: Friday 28th April 2017

Tory competence https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/apr/28/garden-bridge-dead-38m-public-money-repaid-boris-johnson" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; can you explain to me why McDonnell and Corbyn are automatically assumed to do worse than this bunch on corrupt uppe...
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 26 Apr, 2017 8:47 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 26th April 2017
Replies: 71
Views: 18665

Re: Wednesday 26th April 2017

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:God this election is boring. When does politics start again?
Dugher wants Rachel Reeves to be Labour's next leader.

Does that excite you?
Anybody outside the far left will do (assuming Danczuk doesn't get back as an MP).
by TechnicalEphemera
Wed 26 Apr, 2017 8:46 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 26th April 2017
Replies: 71
Views: 18665

Re: Wednesday 26th April 2017

SpinningHugo wrote:God this election is boring. When does politics start again?
And when it does will Labour have 150, 120 or 100 MPs.

Boring I can live with, stupid self harming clusterfuck is more annoying.
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 11:38 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34659

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

The Guardian reporting a Labour agreement on free movement has been reached. In this case Corbyn and Abbott were holding out against ending it. In fact DA wrote an article defending immigration in the G recently which I thought was easily the best thing she had ever done. A clinical and forensic dem...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 10:32 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34659

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

'a long-term solution' ? Don't even joke. For some of us it seems to be here already. I am thinking of disposing of net curtains altogether. Not always a lack of income for many, you understand. Care being far more than that. Especially their version. It is a bigger issue than most people think. Ar...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 10:28 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34659

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

In non election news, one of the most inevitable corporate failures in airline history is finally happening (again). https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-24/alitalia-risks-collapse-after-unions-reject-restructuring-plan I had assumed they folded years ago (which they did), amazed they are...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 10:22 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34659

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

RogerOThornhill wrote:
citizenJA wrote:T May said she wanted to, 'prevent tourism'
Talking of which...

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Thank you, I nearly sprayed tea over the furniture, and breathing briefly became an issue.
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 10:18 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34659

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/10/miliband-soft-brexit-labour-conflict-grows-migration The UK should stay inside the EU’s single market and customs union even if this means there can only be limited cuts to immigration after Brexit, the former Labour leader, Ed Miliband, said. Spelli...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 8:40 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 25 April 2017
Replies: 125
Views: 34659

Re: Tuesday 25 April 2017

Yes, Kinnock. He was a rip-roaring success, wasn't he? Lost two elections despite an increasingly unpopular PM and support swinging away from the SDP after 1983. Proof positive that the Tory-supporting press will destroy any Labour leader who doesn't sign up, wholesale, to their agenda, regardless ...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 12:16 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45480

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

I am clearly not as up on Labour internal politics as I should be. Andrew Fischer is drawing up the manifesto and is the ten year old boy suspended for this tweet. Fisher wrote: “FFS if you live in Croydon South, vote with dignity, vote @campaignbeard.” Campaignbeard was the Twitter handle of the Cl...
by TechnicalEphemera
Tue 25 Apr, 2017 12:06 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 24th April 2017
Replies: 175
Views: 45480

Re: Monday 24th April 2017

Ed thought the election was winnable pretty much to the end, if anything he was undone by polls that misled him in strategy and by the rise of the SNP that allowed English nationalism to be exploited by Crosby. However he resigned, not because he was forced out, although some would have tried, but b...