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Cheers Paul Still a bit ambiguous but more definition I think we then move on to defining 'physical infrastructure' My feeling is the EU will look to some really quite tight definitions of the accepted outcome to prevent Option C. There can be little trust in the British acting in good faith on this...

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Here is Article 49 in the December agreement The United Kingdom remains committed to protecting North-South cooperation and to its guarantee of avoiding a hard border . Any future arrangements must be compatible with these overarching requirements. The United Kingdom's intention is to achieve these ...

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https://amp.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/pms-irish-border-plan-could-be-tweaked-amid-concerns-eu-could-reject-it-36667566.html "Theresa May’s plan to maintain a soft Irish border after Brexit could be changed to accommodate European Union concerns, her deputy said amid signals ...

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further to the last, rather rambling, post There is a border now (a national one), there will e a border in the future (a national one and and a 'supranational' one) The desired outcome would be no change to the current state - whatever we call it Any strengthening of checks would be regressive and ...

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Morning all Beautiful weather to start the day here It is interesting to see adam referring to places in Wednesfield (my own little part of Wolverhmapton) - Kevin Rowland from Dexy's being our most famous ex-resident but we have had some successful gymnasts as well over the years Especially fun to s...

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Yes - but my concern is that Jacob Rees Mogg is "content" with nothing having been changed. Others may be ok with supporting a sticking plaster\party survival option - but him ? Something's going on, I fear. You may well be right PF - I think that the Brexiteers know something that makes ...

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Hi The speech by May yesterday was a whole load of smoke and mirrors - notice no-one has really made too many comments because it was the typical speech that says nothing and if you want to be persuaded one way or another then you can As always though - certain of the 'rebels' on the Tory benches ha...

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I saw Dominic Grieve interviewed earlier in the week (when Hoey was the Labour representative nat.....so mainstream) and he said that the biggest error being made was that people treated the EU as a state when in fact it is a treaty-based organisation and so it can only apply rules and it cannot ame...

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Afternoon On schools there is often he question of liability and also there are examples of where teachers have been called in but pupils not I remember schools being closed for snow days in the past in similar conditions There is also the question of liability - it is often not the school but clear...

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Tory conference is now cancelled

Is May still going to make her speech?

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Now wait for the 'traitor' comments

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Thanks adam

can't disagree with anything you wrote above

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Snow day here today. Happy kids! How on earth is the so called government getting away with the Ireland situation? They agreed a deal with the EU to much fanfare and are now choosing not to honour it. It's just pathetic and makes the UK look like utter fools. But of course the Brexit supporting med...

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Just watched Newsnight - the Irish must think we have completely lost it Evan Davis harangued an Irish minister almost shouting 'where are you going to put the border' - the minister replied that the agreement says no border on the island of Ireland....and the haranguing continued. This is even befo...

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I am going to be fair to May here She is in a bind, as would Labour be, over this question of sovereignty. It is is the real issue that cannot be easily resolved, apart from via a hard Brexit. I still have an inkling suspicion that May would love to have been able to make that Corbyn speech yesterda...

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Good morning On the 'cake and eat it' criticisms that fly about. I think it is a little unfair to expect that anyone go into negotiations with the publicly expressed intention of just accepting the other side's views as the endpoint. What we each have to do is estimate what is realistically going to...

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The simple truth is all options have their negatives. Yes, the only one that doesn't is remaining...at some point it'd be nice if the sensible wings of all parties were to say to the British people "Look, there's no easy way to say this but what you've done by voting to leave is to send us up ...

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I think we have to accept any movement by Labour was going to cause some issues Those on the remain side of the party saying it is not enough and the leavers saying it is betrayal I can see why Labour can be accused of the 'cake and eat it' approach but if they went to the EEA/CU then it would be 'v...

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I have just watched that speech and I was struck how conciliatory it was - far more pro-EU than anti and looking for convergence not divergence

Do not be surprised if you see Labour advocating even more as time progresses......

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The thing someone like Dunt doesn't seem to get is that Corbyn doesn't want to say anything about the single market because he is not ready to get involved in the shitstorm that will follow it - allowing the Tories to get away with even more The thing is with questions around this area is often that...

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I found this to be quite clear and objective on customs unions, the Irish border and free trade, from the Institute for Government. https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/five-things-know-about-customs-union" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Thanks Paul....more author...

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Good morning Listening to the Barry Gardiner on Sky Managed what could have been a tricky interview for him fairly well - as I expected the focus is now on details (which is ridiculous seeing the Tories are in Government and actually negotiating. Shame we see less focus on the actual Government) Wha...

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Sky'sGoneOut ahhh....you are still doing better than I would I can give my view not he first question We leave the EU Join EFTA Sign EEA Negotiate and agree extra provisions to EEA Negotiate a custom's agreement The EEA deal is compatible with the principles of the EU internal market and we then wil...

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I agree with you, Labour have been obscuring and dicking about for months in the hope that the people who normaly vote for them will coninue doing so. And as I pointed out above, they will. I think 'obscuring and dicking' is a bit unfair Do you have any answers to the questions? Because to come cle...

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Am I wrong? No - there is no right or wrong on this It is just that there are a lot of demands for Labour to commit to being in the single market and I am asking how that is achieved (there is not membership form for the single market so it must be done via another means) and how do you explain to ...

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So anyway we now have Labour backing staying in the (or 'a') customs union, which seems to me to be a small step towards sanity and while I would like them to take the next step towards staying in the single market I can see why that would appear to be electoral suicide to many northern Labour MP's...

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The thing is with Corbyn is he is older than he was 30 years ago when his reputation as a bit of a loose cannon were made. Most people have seen little of him before he jumped into the leadership It seems, to me at least, that he is less interested in destroying institutions such as the EU and NATO ...

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Labour have certainly spun more towards staying in the Customs Union. But still talk of trade deals. So cake and eat it in policy terms. But spin shifting is how policy shifts in time, so I'm encouraged. Hi Tubby Yes, definitely some inconsistencies but that will become less and less possible as th...

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HindleA wrote:Nearly looked up CHF3 as a name of an eighties album/group I do wish you would write more clearly.

Hahaha

trifluoromethane

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Morning all Just been to a record fair and picked up some mediocre 80s trash but for CHF3 an album who can argue! Don't ask what by the way as I do not want to be embarrassed Starmer made the right call this morning, and don't get me wrong I do understand the frustration of people like Willow It is ...

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Hilary Benn @hilarybennmp 10m10 minutes ago More Very clear statement by @Keir_Starmer on Labour's support for staying in a customs union with the EU. The right decision for the economy and for jobs and one which will be widely welcomed by LP members. @MarrShow Surely he means leaving the customs u...

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I find it really odd that people who aren't members of Labour whether they be Green or Tory spend so much time obsessing about them and very little actually saying anything about their own chosen party.. Explain it to me someone. I think Labour will be the next government, don't you? It won't be th...

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According to Wikipedia Benjamin David Bradley (born 11 December 1989) is a British Conservative Party politician, self admitted liar; and eugenics enthusiast. He has been the Member of Parliament (MP) for Mansfield since the 2017 general election. :lol: He has the intelligence of a small chid if he...

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That is up to you....I haven't asked you to stop ignoring him so please show me the courtesy of not asking me to stop engaging with him

I do not block, I do not ignore on this board

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If he continues to be allowed to post on here then he needs to be responded to..... ignoring him doesn't work so should we just let him post without challenge? I am sorry that it can seem to be the same discussion How would we know? I have tried it enough times and he is still here isn't he? Anyway...

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Good old JC showing his true colours https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-brexit-brussels-funds-12084323.amp?__twitter_impression=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; £350m a week you say? why not wait for the speech until basing it upon media reports of wha...

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David Davis once said ‘if a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy’. Well Mr Davis, I wish to change my mind http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-changed-my-mind-remain-economic-disaster-second-referendum-democracy-eu-government-david-a8225486.html" onclick="w...

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FFS he's one bloke being an obnoxious wazzock.Like anywhere you'll get them.They don't disappear if you ban them,the last thing to do is ban yourself.Don't give a toss what others think of you let them worry what you think of them.Life's far too short.IMHO. I am quite happy to tell him what I think...

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refitman wrote:Well, that didn't go to plan.

I made the mistake of winding up my Scottish mates

Getting it double-barrelled from all sides

I didn't think there were so many different Braveheart gifs - and the Scottish do have a way with swearing - so creative

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I do like Stop the War's take on the massacres of children taking place in Syria. Such a powerful reaction to Assad's butchery http://www.stopwar.org.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I am sure their founder and former Chair will agree. do you just look for things so you ...

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I'm just reporting what was said at the time by some "in the know". You don't have to believe it. The claim that Livingstone hasn't brought the party into disrepute seems unsustainable to me. The only ones defending him seem to me to be the loons still arguing "but Hitler...." T...

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"tipping point""resignations" https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/24/ken-livingstone-hitler-suspension-end-no-further-action?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&__twitter_impression=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Bollocks. They're all too cowardly...

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The argument that not enough Tory rebels would back it is a good reason why the taxation amendment would fail but for me it's not really a good argument for voting alongside the government against it. It's an opportunity to oppose Tory hard Brexit as Corbyn pledged. It's been delayed so we'll see c...

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You will have to ask the Tories why they have delayed both. I have no claim on understanding their approach I am not going to explain the a and the difference again. If you don't agree then fine but I am fed up of the media conflating the two as if there is no difference and we should just accept t...

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Fuck it

Not going to bother trying to explain again....

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You will have to ask the Tories why they have delayed both. I have no claim on understanding their approach I am not going to explain the a and the difference again. If you don't agree then fine but I am fed up of the media conflating the two as if there is no difference and we should just accept th...

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It is still a significant difference and my original comment stands

The conflation between the two is very common and poor reporting. A lot of people just read the headline

There is no way the Tories fear losing the 'the EU CU' amendment but could the other one.....

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I know we don't do polls, but New YouGov/Times poll has LAB lead at 2% CON 40% = LAB 42%+1 Doesn't look like check the Czech cheque at Chequers has gone that well for Mrs May :twisted: Apparently only 8% of respondents believe the allegations, nearly all of them Tory voters. I'd be astonished of 8%...

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HindleA wrote:You did let go?

Sort of....but it didn't really go where intended. All you can hear is instructor going 'zut ! Merde' as he chased after it

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Anyway changing subject, I found a video of me curling yesterday (from 8 years ago) Gosh I was shit Biceps or lumps of granite? Lumps of granite although curling hair or biceps would have been as effective at making any difference to the game. In fact probably would have been more beneficial to my ...

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