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by SpinningHugo
Sun 18 Feb, 2018 2:14 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

Surely Theresa May's declared intention to leave the single market automatically rules out EEA membership anyway. Corbyn has also rules out staying in the single market more than once. No doubt his defenders will make the ridiculous claim that all this talk of the single market is an illusion and i...
by SpinningHugo
Sun 18 Feb, 2018 12:55 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I noticed this in Thornberry's words this morning
I know that it's very difficult for us to remain in the single market as it currently is
Perhaps Hugo I'm not the only one who thinks there's room for some changes!
Brilliant bit of signalling from Thornberry there.

I can only applaud.
by SpinningHugo
Sun 18 Feb, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

You have to admire the slipping in of "anti-semitism" here which nobody had mentioned

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what a pro.

Rayner v Thornberry neck and neck. An exciting race!
by SpinningHugo
Sun 18 Feb, 2018 12:13 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

When Corbyn said, we must trigger A50 now, he meant, now that we've voted to leave the EU. Not now=today. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. That is certainly a credible interpretation of what he said. Rubbish. I listened to him on Today and on Sky on the day. He meant immediate trigger. The o...
by SpinningHugo
Sun 18 Feb, 2018 11:43 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

[ It is telling that the main talking point there is still his comments about A50 the weekend after the referendum. In the fraught aftermath of that vote, quite a few unwise and hasty things were said and done on all sides. Though many would say Corbyn's internal Labour opponents were more culpable...
by SpinningHugo
Sun 18 Feb, 2018 11:19 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

AnatolyKasparov wrote:SH evidently thinks that they are totally credible and very important, however. Draw your own conclusions......

If you remember, what I actually said was why would anyone think it important in the light of what we already know about JC? It is trivia.
by SpinningHugo
Sun 18 Feb, 2018 10:09 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

Cutting tuition fees.

Another amazingly dumb idea whose time has come.
by SpinningHugo
Sun 18 Feb, 2018 8:49 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

More on housing. This also indicates the problem isn't one of lack of supply

https://voxeu.org/article/uk-house-pric ... and-future" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
by SpinningHugo
Sun 18 Feb, 2018 7:38 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

This is old,but very helpful. It explains why property prices have gone up so much, and that this is not necessarily attributable to lack of supply

https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2014 ... y.html?m=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
by SpinningHugo
Sun 18 Feb, 2018 7:33 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

John McDonnell MP‏Verified account @johnmcdonnellMP Telegraph lies. These are ridiculous and false allegations. I have never met any Czechoslovak or Soviet agent, nor visited the Soviet or Russian embassy and have only visited Guildford once in my life, which was last year for a Labour Party public...
by SpinningHugo
Sat 17 Feb, 2018 9:55 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

I don't get the point of stuff like this

https://chalkhilldigital.info/straight- ... -politics/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Time he woke up and realised who is now in charge.
by SpinningHugo
Sat 17 Feb, 2018 6:54 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

Sorry, how is that a debunking? Maybe I should have quoted the whole article: “Mr. Corbyn was neither registered [by the StB] as a collaborator, nor does this [his alleged collaboration] stem from archive documents,” Ptacnikova said. The Czech archive keepers have found signs that the StB tried to ...
by SpinningHugo
Sat 17 Feb, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

Dan Snow is a professional historian. You would think he wouldn't take the word of a R-W historian at face value, especially the day after the Czech's have debunked the story. A member of the Privy Council wouldn't be checked? Oh, and the Trump story? Seems to have some legs, considering his lawyer...
by SpinningHugo
Sat 17 Feb, 2018 6:25 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

Dan Snow is a professional historian. You would think he wouldn't take the word of a R-W historian at face value, especially the day after the Czech's have debunked the story. A member of the Privy Council wouldn't be checked? Oh, and the Trump story? Seems to have some legs, considering his lawyer...
by SpinningHugo
Sat 17 Feb, 2018 6:16 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

The videos of the NPF are hilarious

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Takes me back 30+ years.
by SpinningHugo
Sat 17 Feb, 2018 6:14 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

You know, I had hoped Dan Snow wasn't a moron: Dan Snow ✔ @thehistoryguy This is insane. If this is true how can Corbyn go on as leader let alone become PM? https://twitter.com/nfergus/status/964556338087919616" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; … 2:18 PM - Feb 17, 2018 I'm no...
by SpinningHugo
Sat 17 Feb, 2018 11:40 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018
Replies: 230
Views: 55088

Re: Saturday 17th & Sunday 18th February 2018

I love the 1980s http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/corbyn-supporters-postpone-election-of-national-policy-forum-chair-national-executive-committee-officers-ann-black-andi-fox_uk_5a87facae4b05c2bcacb34b7?vcp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Some of these people resisting t...
by SpinningHugo
Fri 16 Feb, 2018 8:17 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 16th February 2018
Replies: 55
Views: 15741

Re: Friday 16th February 2018

But I thought Corbyn hated the UK and the West and would do anything to undermine them? That's what I keep being told. This is a fair and balanced reply to that query https://capx.co/corbyn-may-not-have-been-a-spy-but-he-always-opposed-the-west/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return fal...
by SpinningHugo
Fri 16 Feb, 2018 7:30 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Friday 16th February 2018
Replies: 55
Views: 15741

Re: Friday 16th February 2018

https://www.politico.eu/article/jeremy-corbyn-never-knowingly-met-communist-spy-says-czech-agency/ "Jeremy Corbyn never knowingly met communist spy, says Czech agency" You mean that Sun front page was a load of cobblers? How shocking :D Indeed. Would one of the world's most sophisticated ...
by SpinningHugo
Fri 16 Feb, 2018 12:09 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 15th February 2018
Replies: 68
Views: 19575

Re: Thursday 15th February 2018

Overly fair from the ever excellent Ford https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/964226578250166272?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Em5%7Ctwgr%5Eemail%7Ctwcon%5E7046%7Ctwterm%5E1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I have a problem with the liberal way he (and you) use the word...
by SpinningHugo
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 8:25 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 15th February 2018
Replies: 68
Views: 19575

Re: Thursday 15th February 2018

Overly fair from the ever excellent Ford

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by SpinningHugo
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 15th February 2018
Replies: 68
Views: 19575

Re: Thursday 15th February 2018

I like compulsory national service everyone has to do I don't. I think it is slavery by another name. I think I agree - actually a non-military form *can* sound attractive on paper, but the devil is in the detail. In practice it will always be problematic, I suspect. Compelling people to work, even...
by SpinningHugo
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 2:01 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 15th February 2018
Replies: 68
Views: 19575

Re: Thursday 15th February 2018

citizenJA wrote:I like compulsory national service everyone has to do

I don't. I think it is slavery by another name.
by SpinningHugo
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 1:11 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 15th February 2018
Replies: 68
Views: 19575

Re: Thursday 15th February 2018

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Helen Lewis. Hahahahahahaha.

Good argument well made.
Compare and contrast
Corbyn is appaling

You feel I've not done enough to explain why he is dreadful?

I must redouble my efforts.
by SpinningHugo
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 12:44 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 15th February 2018
Replies: 68
Views: 19575

Re: Thursday 15th February 2018

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Helen Lewis. Hahahahahahaha.

Good argument well made.
by SpinningHugo
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 12:43 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 15th February 2018
Replies: 68
Views: 19575

Re: Thursday 15th February 2018

Seems right to me https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/02/both-left-and-right-i-ve-never-despaired-more-british-politicians" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Though far too generous to Gove and McDonnell. Opt out, vote elsewhere. It's quite amazing that Helen Lewis j...
by SpinningHugo
Thu 15 Feb, 2018 11:28 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 15th February 2018
Replies: 68
Views: 19575

Re: Thursday 15th February 2018

Seems right to me

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/u ... oliticians" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Though far too generous to Gove and McDonnell. Opt out, vote elsewhere.
by SpinningHugo
Wed 14 Feb, 2018 4:55 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 14th February 2018
Replies: 73
Views: 27492

Re: Wednesday 14th February 2018

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PorFavor wrote:When's the next "Brexit" speech, and who's delivering it?
May is supposed to be doing one I think? At some point. When she gets round to it.
And Fox and Davis :roll:

But certainly not Jeremy Corbyn.


The real fight starts

well, in a bit I suppose.

What a disaster UK politics is.
by SpinningHugo
Mon 12 Feb, 2018 12:12 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 12th February 2018
Replies: 36
Views: 15257

Re: Monday 12th February 2018

Well, the Tories (Lansley, remember him?) running with the "DEATH TAX" meme after Labour set up a cross-party commission in total good faith remains one of the most shameful things I can recall in what is now approaching four decades of closely following politics. You can sort of forgive ...
by SpinningHugo
Mon 12 Feb, 2018 12:04 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Monday 12th February 2018
Replies: 36
Views: 15257

Re: Monday 12th February 2018

Morning all. Labour rejects calls for cross-party body to solve NHS and social care crisis http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-nhs-social-care-funding-government-shadow-health-secretary-jon-ashworth-jeremy-hunt-liberal-a8204141.html So why wouldn't Labour want to get involved in a ...
by SpinningHugo
Sat 10 Feb, 2018 2:09 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Saturday 10th & Sunday 11th February 2018
Replies: 137
Views: 38559

Re: Saturday 10th & Sunday 11th February 2018

Water is easily the best case for nationalisation.

Rail the worst (it largely already is).
by SpinningHugo
Thu 08 Feb, 2018 5:56 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 8th February 2018
Replies: 40
Views: 14996

Re: Thursday 8th February 2018

Not really, the Labour party now has a very robust policy on AS which most of us strongly support. That does not stop us pointing out when the issue is being cynically weaponised by our opponents, or indeed (often as part of that) when false AS accusations are made. I'd much prefer it if there were...
by SpinningHugo
Thu 08 Feb, 2018 5:12 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Thursday 8th February 2018
Replies: 40
Views: 14996

Re: Thursday 8th February 2018

Nick Timothy has disgraced himself, and Hodges has shown very poor judgement.

This concern with anti-semitism looks a little selective to me however.
by SpinningHugo
Wed 07 Feb, 2018 4:05 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 7th February 2018
Replies: 77
Views: 25795

Re: Wednesday 7th February 2018

I do love these subtle but no doubt vital distinctions between the customs noon and a customs union that is identical in all material respects. Very productive. Labour needs to adopt Benn's position and cut the shadow secretary for international trade loose. He and the other deniers of reality will ...
by SpinningHugo
Wed 07 Feb, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 7th February 2018
Replies: 77
Views: 25795

Re: Wednesday 7th February 2018

Re PMQs Inevitably the chorus of #FBPE Tweeters were having a right go at Corbyn for not having mentioned Brexit, despite him having absolutely nailed May on crime. Then Hilary Benn completely floored her on customs union / Irish border. I'm sure they are all apologising for these unwarranted and c...
by SpinningHugo
Wed 07 Feb, 2018 12:24 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 7th February 2018
Replies: 77
Views: 25795

Re: Wednesday 7th February 2018

RogerOThornhill wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:History of Labour

https://www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and- ... bour-party" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That was last week. So, was it any good?

I think so, you can watch it online at the link,
by SpinningHugo
Wed 07 Feb, 2018 11:56 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 7th February 2018
Replies: 77
Views: 25795

Re: Wednesday 7th February 2018

How utterly pathetic Greg Hands and Rachael Maskell were on the Daily Politics.


Boooooooooo.
by SpinningHugo
Wed 07 Feb, 2018 11:23 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 7th February 2018
Replies: 77
Views: 25795

Re: Wednesday 7th February 2018

History of Labour

https://www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and- ... bour-party" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
by SpinningHugo
Wed 07 Feb, 2018 7:42 am
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Wednesday 7th February 2018
Replies: 77
Views: 25795

Re: Wednesday 7th February 2018

tinybgoat The US links you gave last night are about a different experience altogether than London. In the US the problem is complete deregulation. So developers build large units for the rich, but fewer units overall. We need to regulate for density (ie you must build X units) not for price. The hi...
by SpinningHugo
Tue 06 Feb, 2018 9:41 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 6th February 2018
Replies: 88
Views: 23122

Re: Tuesday 6th February 2018

In the context of a falling house price market I think London may be heading for a problem, especially when Brexit hits that high end market hard. Here's how much London house prices fell in November http://www.cityam.com/278855/heres-much-london-house-prices-fell-november" onclick="windo...
by SpinningHugo
Tue 06 Feb, 2018 9:26 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 6th February 2018
Replies: 88
Views: 23122

Re: Tuesday 6th February 2018

Of course it makes sense to leave empty if it's not a long-term investment, too much hassle. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/01/empty-homes-normal-rules-do-not-apply-to-super-rich-in-london" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Ghost towers: half of new-build luxury ...
by SpinningHugo
Tue 06 Feb, 2018 9:25 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 6th February 2018
Replies: 88
Views: 23122

Re: Tuesday 6th February 2018

Put another way, I think there is another way of telling the story of Haringey. A lucky few are in publicly provided housing. A much larger number would like to live in equialent housing in the same area, but cannot. The lucky few are trying to block the building of more housing in the area to meet ...
by SpinningHugo
Tue 06 Feb, 2018 9:12 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 6th February 2018
Replies: 88
Views: 23122

Re: Tuesday 6th February 2018

It's not just the Chakrobarty piece, it's the other links I gave and the massive transfer of public assets into private hands with no guarantee of what happens if the company go bump AFTER they have demolished and before they have built. Plus the loss of all the housing that will be demolished, 190...
by SpinningHugo
Tue 06 Feb, 2018 9:09 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 6th February 2018
Replies: 88
Views: 23122

Re: Tuesday 6th February 2018

Of course it makes sense to leave empty if it's not a long-term investment, too much hassle. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/01/empty-homes-normal-rules-do-not-apply-to-super-rich-in-london" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Ghost towers: half of new-build luxury ...
by SpinningHugo
Tue 06 Feb, 2018 9:06 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 6th February 2018
Replies: 88
Views: 23122

Re: Tuesday 6th February 2018

[ I think this would indicate that we need less luxury developments, and maybe some more affordable housing*. *As in actually affordable. If you think of housing as a stock, it should become clear that that isn't right. Try and do it with numbers. Say we have 1,000 homes occupier by 1,000 people, a...
by SpinningHugo
Tue 06 Feb, 2018 8:59 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 6th February 2018
Replies: 88
Views: 23122

Re: Tuesday 6th February 2018

It's not just the Chakrobarty piece, it's the other links I gave and the massive transfer of public assets into private hands with no guarantee of what happens if the company go bump AFTER they have demolished and before they have built. Plus the loss of all the housing that will be demolished, 190...
by SpinningHugo
Tue 06 Feb, 2018 8:55 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 6th February 2018
Replies: 88
Views: 23122

Re: Tuesday 6th February 2018

It's not just the Chakrobarty piece, it's the other links I gave and the massive transfer of public assets into private hands with no guarantee of what happens if the company go bump AFTER they have demolished and before they have built. Plus the loss of all the housing that will be demolished, 190...
by SpinningHugo
Tue 06 Feb, 2018 8:50 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 6th February 2018
Replies: 88
Views: 23122

Re: Tuesday 6th February 2018

It's not just the Chakrobarty piece, it's the other links I gave and the massive transfer of public assets into private hands with no guarantee of what happens if the company go bump AFTER they have demolished and before they have built. Plus the loss of all the housing that will be demolished, 190...
by SpinningHugo
Tue 06 Feb, 2018 8:27 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 6th February 2018
Replies: 88
Views: 23122

Re: Tuesday 6th February 2018

Not only do you cite no evidence to support your view, there is clear evidence that you are wrong. Do you think you'll get away with it here? For example, Clive Lewis rebelled against Corbyn on Article 50. Yet he is back. Forgiven and forgotten presumably. And a good thing too. I think we'll just h...
by SpinningHugo
Tue 06 Feb, 2018 8:22 pm
Forum: The Daily Politics
Topic: Tuesday 6th February 2018
Replies: 88
Views: 23122

Re: Tuesday 6th February 2018

Not only do you cite no evidence to support your view, there is clear evidence that you are wrong. Do you think you'll get away with it here? For example, Clive Lewis rebelled against Corbyn on Article 50. Yet he is back. Forgiven and forgotten presumably. And a good thing too. I think we'll just h...