From Barney Farmer:rebeccariots2 wrote:Graeme Demianyk @GraemeDemianyk 13m13 minutes ago
This Government would've "probably said no” to children fleeing Nazis, says Lord Dubs
Tuesday 26th April 2016
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Cathy Newman @cathynewman 39s39 seconds ago
. @Jeremy_Hunt tells me on tonight's @Channel4News that he hopes this won't be his "miners' strike moment". Do tune in at 7
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I thought Thatcher's "miners strike moment" was a success from the Tory perspective. If Hunt didn't actually want to break the junior doctors as an example to other public sector workers who will be next to face reduced pay and conditions, why on earth did he issue an ultimatum which only a broken union would ever agree to and which he could only back down from with a loss of face and possibly his post?rebeccariots2 wrote:Cathy Newman @cathynewman 39s39 seconds ago
. @Jeremy_Hunt tells me on tonight's @Channel4News that he hopes this won't be his "miners' strike moment". Do tune in at 7
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Willow904 wrote:I thought Thatcher's "miners strike moment" was a success from the Tory perspective. If Hunt didn't actually want to break the junior doctors as an example to other public sector workers who will be next to face reduced pay and conditions, why on earth did he issue an ultimatum which only a broken union would ever agree to and which he could only back down from with a loss of face and possibly his post?rebeccariots2 wrote:Cathy Newman @cathynewman 39s39 seconds ago
. @Jeremy_Hunt tells me on tonight's @Channel4News that he hopes this won't be his "miners' strike moment". Do tune in at 7
Blimey. Don't say he is going to push it so far we'll see the same as happened to the Miners?
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We got an election leaflet from a group called People First.
They seem to have evolved out of a group of councillors in Carmarthenshire.
Just wonder if you have any knowledge about them. Something just didn't seem right to me.
We got an election leaflet from a group called People First.
They seem to have evolved out of a group of councillors in Carmarthenshire.
Just wonder if you have any knowledge about them. Something just didn't seem right to me.
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Any sign of hilarious Boris? Wallowing in self-pity, eh?
I never liked Michael Howard but at least he had Johnson's number.
I never liked Michael Howard but at least he had Johnson's number.
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There's a list of people who need to apologise.
The Sun are fond of demanding apologies, time for them to make one.
The Sun are fond of demanding apologies, time for them to make one.
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There's a list of people who need to apologise.
The Sun are fond of demanding apologies, time for them to make one.
The Sun are fond of demanding apologies, time for them to make one.
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Corbyn and John McDonnell out with the junior doctors on their march.
They, and the crowd, are calling for Hunt to come out of hiding.
They, and the crowd, are calling for Hunt to come out of hiding.
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Are there really two teddy bears wearing surgical scrub masks on their heads next to Corbyn and McDonnell ? Or do I need new specs ?
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Billy Lynn @LillyBynn 23h23 hours ago Belfast, Northern Ireland
Just got PUP election leaflet through the door. A few seconds later a DUP one. Looked out the door only one person leafleting!!
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@LillyBynn I got a single bundle of leaflets from about half a dozen parties delivered yesterday!
Just got PUP election leaflet through the door. A few seconds later a DUP one. Looked out the door only one person leafleting!!
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@LillyBynn I got a single bundle of leaflets from about half a dozen parties delivered yesterday!
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Distinguishing between the Evening Standard and official Zac Goldsmith campaign literature is getting harder.
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Dearie me, he was at it even then....08:00, 29 JUN 2010 UPDATED 01:08, 8 MAY 2013
BY LIVERPOOL ECHO
Fury as sports secretary Jeremy Hunt links Hillsborough with hooliganism
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv ... ar_twitter
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Good evening.
A really sad day today for me. I sobbed when Margaret Aspinall was speaking about her son I can't raise a cheer for justice to be honest so many needless avoidable deaths and so much family grief it hurts. The callous behaviour of police, politicians and the media says an awful lot about the elite side of our society many with a funny handshake which still rules the roost. David Cameron's faux sympathy for political credit is vomit inducing. We need this stuff exposed forensically really but there are few vehicles available. The doctors situation is more of the same full of lies and misleading propaganda with the media complicit. Heidi Alexander hardly got a mention yesterday when she challenged and shamed Hunt - disgraceful press coverage again. Someone should draw the similarities between the two examples of shameful behaviour by the establishment of government and media. I despair but of course we need to be strong and determined to fight back. I think that surprisingly Jeremy Corbyn may become the man of our time as we are in desperate need of some common decency around which we can rally.
I wish you all well particularly those with illness at the moment.
A really sad day today for me. I sobbed when Margaret Aspinall was speaking about her son I can't raise a cheer for justice to be honest so many needless avoidable deaths and so much family grief it hurts. The callous behaviour of police, politicians and the media says an awful lot about the elite side of our society many with a funny handshake which still rules the roost. David Cameron's faux sympathy for political credit is vomit inducing. We need this stuff exposed forensically really but there are few vehicles available. The doctors situation is more of the same full of lies and misleading propaganda with the media complicit. Heidi Alexander hardly got a mention yesterday when she challenged and shamed Hunt - disgraceful press coverage again. Someone should draw the similarities between the two examples of shameful behaviour by the establishment of government and media. I despair but of course we need to be strong and determined to fight back. I think that surprisingly Jeremy Corbyn may become the man of our time as we are in desperate need of some common decency around which we can rally.
I wish you all well particularly those with illness at the moment.
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Is it me or has Tubby gone AWOL recently? Not that he needs permission to not be here I hasten to add.
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Jeremy *unt says being Health Secretary is his "last big job in politics" - off to BUPA, are we?
Best placard on doc's march so far - "I didn't train for years to work for Richard Branson".
martinson - sending a hug.
Best placard on doc's march so far - "I didn't train for years to work for Richard Branson".
martinson - sending a hug.
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You might find this page from their website iinteresting:yahyah wrote:RR2@
We got an election leaflet from a group called People First.
They seem to have evolved out of a group of councillors in Carmarthenshire.
Just wonder if you have any knowledge about them. Something just didn't seem right to me.
http://www.peoplefirstwales.org.uk/sear ... ur%20Party" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
They appear to be Plaid splitters and the basis of splitting appears to be Plaid not hating Labour enough and hating the Tories too much.
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Brings back those bad days of having such a hard hearted women in charge of the country. She's the reason I'm wary of women politicians.The day Margaret Thatcher patronised grieving Hillsborough mum Margaret Aspinall
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv ... g-11229479
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Carmarthenshire council shenanigans have gone on for a long time .... see the Carmarthenshire Planning Problems blog for a whiff of it. I'm not sure what People First is - but they are certainly disaffected with both Plaid and Labour. We had another member from Carmarthenshire who wrote a very true and telling anecdote about the councillor who was voted for in his town / village because, well, that's who you vote for and if it's not him then you must vote for his son when he croaks. I am sorry but I forget the FTNer's username - but I bet they'd probably be able to tell us a bit more.Willow904 wrote:You might find this page from their website iinteresting:yahyah wrote:RR2@
We got an election leaflet from a group called People First.
They seem to have evolved out of a group of councillors in Carmarthenshire.
Just wonder if you have any knowledge about them. Something just didn't seem right to me.
http://www.peoplefirstwales.org.uk/sear ... ur%20Party" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
They appear to be Plaid splitters and the basis of splitting appears to be Plaid not hating Labour enough and hating the Tories too much.
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Yep. I thought I'd run a quick errand. Took me over five hours. The thunder and lightening were spectacular. Rain, hail, wet, driving sleet, snow and for a couple half hours at a time, sunshine and birdsong.ohsocynical wrote:It's snowing!!!!
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Apart from his post at 6:09...?rebeccariots2 wrote:Is it me or has Tubby gone AWOL recently? Not that he needs permission to not be here I hasten to add.
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Mr. citizen has told me it's time to think about obtaining a mobile communication device for me to take along on travels.rebeccariots2 wrote:We've had hail, sleet, rain and brilliant sunshine - all with high winds. Very manic here today as we are putting in french windows on the end of the house (we're losing a window on another wall where we've got to do remedial work). Before 8am we'd had about 5 phone calls with the builder trying to work out whether to cancel the stone cutter we'd hired or go and collect it. It was snowing hard where he lives - about half an hour away. We collected it and the house is vibrating with the cutter's efforts at getting through the double skin wall and Mr Riots' expletives.
The builder says Mr Riots and I are so brown we could have been in the south of France ... I wouldn't know as I never see myself ... but we've told him it's just from being outside in the Poppit triangle most of the day.
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The whole country was treated to it all, I think.HindleA wrote:Having four seasons,here today now heavy snow and winds.
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Heidi Allen MP @heidiallen75 11m11 minutes ago
Heidi Allen MP Retweeted ILPA
The Lords have sent the new Dubs amendment straight back to us! @SaveUKNewsHeidi Allen MP added,
ILPA @ILPAimmigration
Lords say refugee children welcome here 279 votes to 172 in favour of Lord Dubs.
Heidi Allen MP Retweeted ILPA
The Lords have sent the new Dubs amendment straight back to us! @SaveUKNewsHeidi Allen MP added,
ILPA @ILPAimmigration
Lords say refugee children welcome here 279 votes to 172 in favour of Lord Dubs.
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We ended up with just a tiny bit of snow. No rain, hail or sleet.citizenJA wrote:Yep. I thought I'd run a quick errand. Took me over five hours. The thunder and lightening were spectacular. Rain, hail, wet, driving sleet, snow and for a couple half hours at a time, sunshine and birdsong.ohsocynical wrote:It's snowing!!!!
A bit windy now, with high cloud and clear spells. Damn cold.
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It's me then.refitman wrote:Apart from his post at 6:09...?rebeccariots2 wrote:Is it me or has Tubby gone AWOL recently? Not that he needs permission to not be here I hasten to add.
I fully accept that.
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.citizenJA wrote:Mr. citizen has told me it's time to think about obtaining a mobile communication device for me to take along on travels.rebeccariots2 wrote:We've had hail, sleet, rain and brilliant sunshine - all with high winds. Very manic here today as we are putting in french windows on the end of the house (we're losing a window on another wall where we've got to do remedial work). Before 8am we'd had about 5 phone calls with the builder trying to work out whether to cancel the stone cutter we'd hired or go and collect it. It was snowing hard where he lives - about half an hour away. We collected it and the house is vibrating with the cutter's efforts at getting through the double skin wall and Mr Riots' expletives.
The builder says Mr Riots and I are so brown we could have been in the south of France ... I wouldn't know as I never see myself ... but we've told him it's just from being outside in the Poppit triangle most of the day.
Do you no good around here citizen. Might as well take a tin can on a long string out with you....
I hope signal is somewhat better where you are.
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I wonder if an etch-a-sketch, a photocopier and a fax machine would be feasible?rebeccariots2 wrote:.citizenJA wrote:Mr. citizen has told me it's time to think about obtaining a mobile communication device for me to take along on travels.rebeccariots2 wrote:We've had hail, sleet, rain and brilliant sunshine - all with high winds. Very manic here today as we are putting in french windows on the end of the house (we're losing a window on another wall where we've got to do remedial work). Before 8am we'd had about 5 phone calls with the builder trying to work out whether to cancel the stone cutter we'd hired or go and collect it. It was snowing hard where he lives - about half an hour away. We collected it and the house is vibrating with the cutter's efforts at getting through the double skin wall and Mr Riots' expletives.
The builder says Mr Riots and I are so brown we could have been in the south of France ... I wouldn't know as I never see myself ... but we've told him it's just from being outside in the Poppit triangle most of the day.
Do you no good around here citizen. Might as well take a tin can on a long string out with you....
I hope signal is somewhat better where you are.
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"The gymnasium here at Hillsborough is being used as a mortuary for the dead and at this moment stewards have got little paper bags and their gathering up the personal belongings of the spectators and the red and white scarfs of Liverpool and the red and white bobble hats of Liverpool and the red and white rosettes of Liverpool and nothing else...and the sun shines now."
JFT 96 RIP
JFT 96 RIP
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That got me too.HindleA wrote:"The gymnasium here at Hillsborough is being used as a mortuary for the dead and at this moment stewards have got little paper bags and their gathering up the personal belongings of the spectators and the red and white scarfs of Liverpool and the red and white bobble hats of Liverpool and the red and white rosettes of Liverpool and nothing else...and the sun shines now."
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Flare gun maybe?refitman wrote:I wonder if an etch-a-sketch, a photocopier and a fax machine would be feasible?rebeccariots2 wrote:.citizenJA wrote: Mr. citizen has told me it's time to think about obtaining a mobile communication device for me to take along on travels.
Do you no good around here citizen. Might as well take a tin can on a long string out with you....
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This has been recommended to me,
http://www.channel4.com/news/kelvin-mac ... nel-4-news" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.channel4.com/news/kelvin-mac ... nel-4-news" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Michael Heaver @Michael_Heaver 10m10 minutes ago
Liz Kendall says she wants stronger border controls but wants to stay in EU. Crowd groans. Painful. #SpecBrexit
The Spectator @spectator 11m11 minutes ago
I do believe that we need stronger border controls, says @leicesterliz, and what the Prime Minister has negotiated would help, says Kendall
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That might be an interview worth watching.BBC Newsnight Retweeted
James O'Brien @mrjamesob 2h2 hours ago
I will be making a cameo appearance on @BBCNewsnight to interview Jeremy Hunt while @EvanHD takes charge of proceedings live from Liverpool.
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Some more thoughts.
http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2016/04/h ... ntability/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2016/04/h ... ntability/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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re Hillsborough.
This is one of those events when I know exactly where I was when I heard the news - on the terraces at orient.
We'd just won and so there was a good buzz around the room as we were filing out...and then they gave the news out over the tannoy.
The whole crowd went silent as we walked out. Stunned. The idea that people could go to a match but never to return was just an awful thought.
This is one of those events when I know exactly where I was when I heard the news - on the terraces at orient.
We'd just won and so there was a good buzz around the room as we were filing out...and then they gave the news out over the tannoy.
The whole crowd went silent as we walked out. Stunned. The idea that people could go to a match but never to return was just an awful thought.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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Lucy Powell MP @LucyMPowell 7m7 minutes ago
Excellent piece by former Education Secretary, Estelle Morris (also from Manchester!)
This education white paper is an open admission of failure
http://www.theguardian.com/education/20 ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As we pulled bodies from the crush at Hillsborough, the first lies were told
Tony Cartlidge
As we pulled bodies from the crush at Hillsborough, the first lies were told
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Ironically, I was in Nottingham, visiting a friend that I'd worked with when I lived there. Before going over to her house, I'd had a couple of hours wandering around the City Centre, re-visiting old haunts, got back to the car about ten past four, switched on the radio to see how the football was going on. There was no commentary at that moment, just the sound of the crowd and I knew instantly that something was badly, sickeningly wrong. I recognised it from the night of the Heysel. It was just the same. At that time, the death count was between 50 and 60. It just kept going up, every time.RogerOThornhill wrote:re Hillsborough.
This is one of those events when I know exactly where I was when I heard the news - on the terraces at orient.
We'd just won and so there was a good buzz around the room as we were filing out...and then they gave the news out over the tannoy.
The whole crowd went silent as we walked out. Stunned. The idea that people could go to a match but never to return was just an awful thought.
I can never forget.
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Nothing of public worth is safe from this government.Channel 4 could be better off in private hands, John Whittingdale says
Culture secretary speaks out in favour of privatisation of commercially funded, state-owned broadcaster
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/a ... gdale-says" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Someone BTL calls Whittingdale 'arsewipe' - I'm inclined to agree.
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http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... unravelled" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
How the Sun's 'truth' about Hillsborough unravelled
How the Sun's 'truth' about Hillsborough unravelled
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Have we seen this?
Quite brilliant reply to a ridiculous question.
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Quite brilliant reply to a ridiculous question.
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Barney Farmer doesn't seem to have much sympathy for Kelvin MacKenzie over Hillsborough:
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... solidarity" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Guardian view on the Hillsborough verdicts: a triumph for truth and solidarity
The Guardian view on the Hillsborough verdicts: a triumph for truth and solidarity
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The Anfield Wrap since it's inception, and Red And White Kop for what seems like forever have been excellent with regards to Hillsborough.martinson wrote:Some more thoughts.
http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2016/04/h ... ntability/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I doubt there's a single decent or sane being on this planet, out of the scumbag's own head, who does.danesclose wrote:Barney Farmer doesn't seem to have much sympathy for Kelvin MacKenzie over Hillsborough:
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I don't like how pieces of story get put out and believed
when there's plenty of evidence it's not a true story
when there's plenty of evidence it's not a true story
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Brian Coleman, ex-Barnet councillor showing his usual lack of class tonight regarding Hillsborough.
Expect nothing more really off him.
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(my emphasis)Timeline: America's Air-Traffic Controllers Strike
August 3, 2006
In August 1981, President Ronald Reagan fired thousands of unionized air-traffic controllers for illegally going on strike, an event
that marked a turning point in labor relations in America, with lasting repercussions. In the decades before 1981, major work
stoppages averaged around 300 per year; today, that number is fewer than 30.
February 1981: New contract negotiations open between PATCO and the Federal Aviation Administration, which employs the
air-traffic controllers. Citing safety concerns, PATCO calls for a reduced 32-hour work week, a $10,000 pay increase for all
air-traffic controllers and a better benefits package for retirement. Contract negotiations with the FAA stall.
Aug. 3, 1981: About 13,000 PATCO members go on strike after unsuccessful contract negotiations. In doing so, the union
technically violates a 1955 law that bans strikes by government unions. (Several government unions had previously declared
strikes without penalties.) President Ronald Reagan declares the PATCO strike a "peril to national safety" and orders the controllers
back to work.
Aug. 5, 1981: Most striking air-traffic controllers are fired. Reagan bans them from ever being rehired by the FAA.
They are initially replaced by controllers, supervisors and staff personnel not participating in the strike and in some
cases, by military controllers.
Aug. 17, 1981: The FAA begins accepting applications for new air-traffic controllers.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=5599271
It takes a couple years to become a qualified air traffic controller.
The US military provides staff when 'national safety' is 'imperilled'.
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goodnight, everyone
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