Friday 6th May 2016

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:13 pm

I thought it was impossible to U turn on forced academisation .... we must have one system and o?nly one system for educating our children surely?

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:17 pm

Bad news buried there. Thank God they got rid of that Blair items media culture.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:22 pm

England Council Elections 2016

Labour have lost 24 council seats
Tories have lost 16 council seats

Labour control 54 councils
Tory control 29 councils

Labour have 1,161 council seats
Tories have 638 council seats

After 107 of 124 councils

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2016/councils" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:24 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:Bad news buried there. Thank God they got rid of that Blair items media culture.

Next up - let's all give a round of applause and welcome dumping that Parliamentary fixed term boondoggle!

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:26 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:I thought it was impossible to U turn on forced academisation .... we must have one system and o?nly one system for educating our children surely?

What else thought impossible not only possible but likely

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:27 pm

Tories losing seats. On 2012. Has this even been mentioned in the MSM?

John Curtice is about the only honourable exception I can recall.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:30 pm

"Labour has done less badly than expected in Local council results"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng- ... acker-2016

Oh, dear
Pass Dave the smelling salts

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:31 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:I thought it was impossible to U turn on forced academisation .... we must have one system and o?nly one system for educating our children surely?

Manifesto pledges have to be stuck to. That's what Hunt keeps saying?

Maeght · Post by **Maeght** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:32 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Maeght wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:It would be amazing if Labour were ever to win that one, tbf.
It's closer than you might think. In Bromley Labour have no chance but Croydon has changed a lot.
Croydon, yeah - but it is Sutton that makes it hard for them to win.

True. Years of Lib Dems squashed by Tories in 2015.

I am just still mad at the email I had ( no idea how he got my address) from the sitting Tory constituency member, Steve O'Connell. He urged me to vote for him to help ensure we don't have a ruinous Labour Mayor for London. A Labour Mayor will undo all the good work done by Boris. But the most important reason is that he'll (Sadiq) be chronically unable to work constructively with the national Conservative Government.

The word, 'you couldn't make it up' don't come close.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:32 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Tories losing seats. On 2012. Has this even been mentioned in the MSM?

John Curtice is about the only honourable exception I can recall.

Nothing makes me more angry than this, AK
It's not right public service information subject to this level of editorialising

edited to add - I mean inadequate reporting of Tory losses - I want the truth straight up

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:37 pm

Billings was returned.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:39 pm

All-out elections in Rotherham - Labour trounce UKIP by 48 to 14. Farage had been bigging up their chances there recently

Sticky99 · Post by **Sticky99** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:39 pm

Hi all, I’m shocked to discover that my local ward is now controlled by the Lib Dems, with the Conservative guy losing by actually a fair bit. Now, I’ll say this strictly on a local level only, but the Conservatives have done a pretty good job of maintaining the area over the years. The Lib Dem guy has sent out some monumental misinformation over the years, on local and national issues. My council is still overwhelmingly Tory controlled, so it’s not like the Lib Dems will able to make much of a difference. I say the Tory actually deserved to win my ward, he used fewer smear tactics than the Lib Dems and was more opening to listening.

Labour never have a chance in my ward.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:41 pm

Getting close to the London mayor result.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:45 pm

StephenDolan wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:I thought it was impossible to U turn on forced academisation .... we must have one system and o?nly one system for educating our children surely?
Manifesto pledges have to be stuck to. That's what Hunt keeps saying?

Have we confirmation Junt has read his party's manifesto?

http://static.guim.co.uk/ni/14290100090 ... o-2015.pdf

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:47 pm

Tories no longer have ANY councillors in Watford!

Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 52s53 seconds ago
Watford Borough Council goes Lib Dem:
LDEM: 25 (+7)
LAB: 18 (-1)
CON: 0 (-5)

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:47 pm

Women's Equality Party beating UKIP in West Central mayoral count.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:47 pm

Sticky99 wrote:Hi all, I’m shocked to discover that my local ward is now controlled by the Lib Dems, with the Conservative guy losing by actually a fair bit. Now, I’ll say this strictly on a local level only, but the Conservatives have done a pretty good job of maintaining the area over the years. The Lib Dem guy has sent out some monumental misinformation over the years, on local and national issues. My council is still overwhelmingly Tory controlled, so it’s not like the Lib Dems will able to make much of a difference. I say the Tory actually deserved to win my ward, he used fewer smear tactics than the Lib Dems and was more opening to listening.

Labour never have a chance in my ward.

Hi, there!

Rebecca · Post by **Rebecca** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:50 pm

Afternoon all.Lovely sunny day.
Well,I think the elections have gone pretty well so far today.Scotland is a lost cause at the moment anyway,so not to worry about that.
Sorry about ukip in Wales,but they had to show their faces sooner or later.
Come on London,hurry up and make it official.
Though of course it's all a disaster for Jeremy Corbyn.
Anyway,off topic,but my old boy was so poorly yesterday.He couldn't get up and lay in a puddle of wee.
Much better today,but took him to the vet seeing as he hasn't been for 5 years.
Well,he was SO BAD I was thoroughly ashamed.
He went down the bins looking for whatever,tried to eat the doorstop wedgy thing,refused to sit,stole some treats and pulled me around like a bloody hooligan.
He has turned into the most wilful and stubborn hound I have ever met.
Obviously feeling better!

Sticky99 · Post by **Sticky99** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:52 pm

I’m astonished that Zac Goldsmith has not been more criticised for deliberately trying to exploit racial tensions between ethnic communities. The hypocrite that is Lynton Crosby never cared about ethnic minorities last year at the general election, but has suddenly become interested in Asian communities when a few votes can be gained. Goldsmith’s campaigning wasn’t just typical scaremongering, he deliberately didn’t target Muslim voters, instead targeting other Asian voters to paint Sadiq Khan as a Muslim extremist, and he even insinuated that Asians’ gold wouldn’t be safe under Kahn’s leadership. This type of campaigning is about 30 years out of date, this has no place in London, and the Electoral Commission should have the power to punish such candidates.

Lynton Crosby is perceived in some circles to be politically astute, but he really read London very wrong.

Sticky99 · Post by **Sticky99** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:52 pm

citizenJA wrote:
Sticky99 wrote:Hi all, I’m shocked to discover that my local ward is now controlled by the Lib Dems, with the Conservative guy losing by actually a fair bit. Now, I’ll say this strictly on a local level only, but the Conservatives have done a pretty good job of maintaining the area over the years. The Lib Dem guy has sent out some monumental misinformation over the years, on local and national issues. My council is still overwhelmingly Tory controlled, so it’s not like the Lib Dems will able to make much of a difference. I say the Tory actually deserved to win my ward, he used fewer smear tactics than the Lib Dems and was more opening to listening.

Labour never have a chance in my ward.
Hi, there!

Hi there, its been a very long time, great to be back!

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:56 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
PoliticsHome ‏@politicshome 23s24 seconds ago
NEW: Michael Dugher has painted a bleak view of Labour's prospects after yesterday's votes: http://polho.me/1YbqFGy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Oh I'm sure he has - he's becoming a supremo at 'bleak views of Labour's prospects'.

Some people doubt the level of dissent in Labour and put it all down to the media...I am afraid Mr Dugher isn't a figment of the media's imagination. He's quite real.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:58 pm

Police and Crime Commissioner (PCC)
South Yorkshire
Alan Billings - Labour

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 3:58 pm

I don't think we had that yet
I'm awaiting Staffordshire's results for PCC

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:01 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
PoliticsHome ‏@politicshome 23s24 seconds ago
NEW: Michael Dugher has painted a bleak view of Labour's prospects after yesterday's votes: http://polho.me/1YbqFGy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Oh I'm sure he has - he's becoming a supremo at 'bleak views of Labour's prospects'.
Some people doubt the level of dissent in Labour and put it all down to the media...I am afraid Mr Dugher isn't a figment of the media's imagination. He's quite real.

Wonder what Dugher's about? I liked him a lot during his Shadow Transport days in Ed Miliband's cabinet.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:01 pm

citizenJA wrote:I don't think we had that yet
I'm awaiting Staffordshire's results for PCC

Labour not far behind the Tories on the first round of voting there.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:02 pm

Panama Papers source breaks silence over 'scale of injustices'

Whistleblower says leak of 11.5m Mossack Fonseca files on offshore tax havens has triggered debate but not enough action

http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/ma ... injustices" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hot off the press

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:03 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
citizenJA wrote:I don't think we had that yet
I'm awaiting Staffordshire's results for PCC
Labour not far behind the Tories on the first round of voting there.

thank you, AK

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:11 pm

RR - have you seen anything on the Dyfed Powys police commissioner result ?

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:13 pm

Lab win Merton and Wandsworth. That is very good.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:17 pm

Okay. Summer's here.

I did an hour in the garden this morning and got very hot so it's t-shirts out tomorrow, and we have two flies in the living room. So that makes it official.

We saw swifts wheeling high up yesterday but no sign of them today. Other years we've had around half a dozen that stay pretty much overhead, but today not a sign of them. We have so much building work going on around here including farmland, that I'm worried their nesting site might have been destroyed.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:19 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
citizenJA wrote:I don't think we had that yet
I'm awaiting Staffordshire's results for PCC
Labour not far behind the Tories on the first round of voting there.

Is there a link to all of the PCC results?

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:22 pm

I've just had a catch up on the Thames Valley PC election. 1st round it was 39% Conservative to 33% Lab.
2nd preference of UK and LibDem votes going on at the moment.

Evidently massive swings to Labour in Reading Slough and Oxford...
I really hope she wins...It'll be well deserved.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:23 pm

Someone's tweeted that the first edition of the ~~Tory propaganda sheet~~ Evening Standard isn't even leading with the London mayoral election.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:25 pm

citizenJA wrote:
Panama Papers source breaks silence over 'scale of injustices'

Whistleblower says leak of 11.5m Mossack Fonseca files on offshore tax havens has triggered debate but not enough action

http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/ma ... injustices" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hot off the press

It's been information overload the last few days, but I'm sure somewhere I read or heard the Camerons 'investment' in a tax haven wasn't thousands it was a couple of million....

Haven't been able to verify it. Perhaps that's another slide under the carpet while we're not looking?

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:27 pm

Labour's police commisioner candidate re-elected in Nottinghamshire.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:28 pm

Labour mayor elected in Salford. More bad news eh?

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:29 pm

Graham Durham
43 mins · London
The BBC is predicting Sadiq Khan is Mayor of London - the first result from London in Tory Bromley shows a swing of 7% to Labour. The first London Labour Mayor for 8 years - a magnificent triumph for Labour and our leader Jeremy Corbyn.
Our 4 % swing nationally to Labour from 2015 means the Tories would not have had a majority if the general election was held now - now the Tories have backed down on forced academies. Jeremy Corbyn is doing a fantastic job as Labour leader after only eight months in the job. Every Labour activist I speak to says the same thing - please Progress, John Mann, Jo Cox, Wes Streeting, stop badmouthing Jeremy and get behind him and fight the Tories

Off the Bracknell Labour page.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:34 pm

I know that Jo Cox was vocal around the time of the Syria business, but has she been mouthing off that much lately?

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:36 pm

Chris Leslie putting the boot in for John McDonnell and the leadership on the BBC.
Says we've all got to pull out socks up. He & his pals could start by not causing trouble.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:36 pm

StephenDolan wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
citizenJA wrote:I don't think we had that yet
I'm awaiting Staffordshire's results for PCC
Labour not far behind the Tories on the first round of voting there.
Is there a link to all of the PCC results?

Police & Crime Commissioner elections 2016

Only one PCC result is expected overnight - Wiltshire - with the rest of England declaring on Friday and Wales on Sunday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2016/police

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:37 pm

Hot sausages so spicy they can scare off elephants and terrorists

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/ ... -1-3856843

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:38 pm

' After eight months of relentless attacks in the media, along with carping and plotting from within the parliamentary Labour party and an election conducted in the midst of a scandal over accusations of antisemitism in the party, it did not crash and it did not burn. Voters did not leave in droves; the sky did not fall in. Indeed, given the calamity that was anticipated when he won the leadership election in September, the top line of the night is: “Labour viable under Corbyn”.

One indication that Corbyn’s opponents in the party do not fully believe their own agenda is that talk of plotting a coup has receded following these elections, not escalated. His opponents had been hoping for a worse night.

There may well be a ceiling to how many people will vote for the party with him in charge – although we are a long way from finding out. But there clearly appears to be a floor to his ostensible “toxicity”. Put bluntly, a large number of Labour voters in England remain loyal to the party and will continue to vote for it with him at the helm'

Ignore the doom merchants: Corbyn has shown he’s a viable leader

http://gu.com/p/4jvbx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:39 pm

tinybgoat wrote:
Hot sausages so spicy they can scare off elephants and terrorists
http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/ ... -1-3856843

Hopefully with lashings of hot chilli sauce on top.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:39 pm

yahyah wrote:RR - have you seen anything on the Dyfed Powys police commissioner result ?

Not yet - nothing so far on Mr Bald Tyres and I'm charging you 75p a mile to drive from home to work in a police car.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:40 pm

StephenDolan wrote:' After eight months of relentless attacks in the media, along with carping and plotting from within the parliamentary Labour party and an election conducted in the midst of a scandal over accusations of antisemitism in the party, it did not crash and it did not burn. Voters did not leave in droves; the sky did not fall in. Indeed, given the calamity that was anticipated when he won the leadership election in September, the top line of the night is: “Labour viable under Corbyn”.

One indication that Corbyn’s opponents in the party do not fully believe their own agenda is that talk of plotting a coup has receded following these elections, not escalated. His opponents had been hoping for a worse night.

There may well be a ceiling to how many people will vote for the party with him in charge – although we are a long way from finding out. But there clearly appears to be a floor to his ostensible “toxicity”. Put bluntly, a large number of Labour voters in England remain loyal to the party and will continue to vote for it with him at the helm'

Ignore the doom merchants: Corbyn has shown he’s a viable leader

http://gu.com/p/4jvbx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

P.S. the link to PCC election data below
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2016/police" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:42 pm

yahyah wrote:Chris Leslie putting the boot in for John McDonnell and the leadership on the BBC.
Says we've all got to pull out socks up. He & his pals could start by not causing trouble.

He was imposed (literally so) on his constituency just before the 2010 GE, his local party nominated JC for the leadership.

Maybe could be one of a couple of high profile deselections, "pour encourager les autres"?

(I note that another I wouldn't mind suffering such a fate - Ian Austin - represents the only council so far which Labour lost yesterday)

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:43 pm

Anthony Stansfeld wins Thames Valley PCC vote in second round
Posted at 16:37

Anthony Stanseld has won a second term as the police and crime commissioner for the Thames Valley - but needed a second-round vote count to claim his win. The Conservative candidate won just under 40% of the vote in the first round, going up against Labour's Laetisia Carter in the second round. Following the count, he won 52.21% of the vote on a 25.6% turnout.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2016/police" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Damn

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:44 pm

Still an excellent Labour performance, though

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 06 May, 2016 4:44 pm

Thank you for the link JA.