Monday 9th May 2016

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:03 pm

It looks as if Bracknell Forest council is looking to outsource all its services...Perhaps our chief executive needs a rethink.

Edited to add...He's VERY well paid.

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:06 pm

yahyah wrote:The Chilcot inquiry is going to be published on my 37th wedding anniversary.
That's the 6th July for those who weren't at the wedding.

Did Corbyn attend your wedding?

If not, it is absolute proof that he has been utterly useless for at least 37 years.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:07 pm

July 6th 1979 -what a day that was.

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:14 pm

Alison Hernandez isn't going to be involved in the expenses investigation, apparently.

She has informed the Plymouth Herald ( http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) that she has not been approached by any authorities or agencies on the matter, and has arranged to have no contact with officers involved in the investigation.

As well as being Devon and Cornwall's PCC, she was the election agent for Torbay's Tory MP Kevin Foster in 2015. He's under investigation.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:17 pm

In response, in a statement sent out by Britain Stronger in Europe, David Miliband, the former Labour foreign secretary, said this claim was bizarre.

The claim by Boris Johnson today that the EU is fuelling the far right is especially bizarre since he has caved into the call of the far right to break up the EU. There is nothing hopeful about making common cause with Mrs Le Pen.

Boris has claimed that the EU is responsible for creating far right nut jobs ( presumably like himself? ) who want to leave it.

He really is on fine form today.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:25 pm

Britain's care time bomb is "one of the biggest commercial opportunities" for private firms, Jeremy Hunt has said.

The top Tory made the eyebrow-raising claim today as he was grilled by MPs on the influential Health Select Committee.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/je ... ar_twitter

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:34 pm

This is the story of some squalid little men (and women), but it is a vital insight into the nexus of the political and corporate media elite. The Guardian, New Statesman and Huffington Post today all run major stories around a “focus group” study in Nuneaton which revealed that voters think Corbyn is “scruffy” and “old-fashioned”. This is deemed front page news.

The publicity was obviously supposed to coincide with Labour losing Nuneaton council, its most marginal council surrounded by Tory territory, in the council elections on Thursday. However Labour held Nuneaton. That did not stop the New Statesman article, by “research” authors James Morris and Ian Warren, from going ahead with the immortal phrase “While today’s Labour party has no hope of representing Nuneaton”. Err, it is still in control of the Council.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... page-news/

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:45 pm

Hi all

My birthday today

Party time

(oops!)

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:46 pm

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:47 pm

Happy Birthday

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:48 pm

Happy birthday How Silly !!!

Hope it has been a good one so far.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:49 pm

David Miliband earns £425,000-a-year as head of refugee charity International Rescue

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/david-miliband ... ign=buffer

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:50 pm

Intersting article

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... l-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and some of the comments:

we know who they are and what they are doing - why will they not be happy at being pulled up for it?

'MPs were expecting a stormy PLP session. Corbyn’s acknowledgement that there is more work to do may allay some criticism but others may not be happy at the idea that they are providing a “running commentary” to the media.'

and this one

'In his speech to MPs, Corbyn will hail Labour’s successes in gaining a higher share of the vote than the Conservatives in the seats that were contested'

I thought the idea of PNS was that it was not just on seats contested but actually corrected for what it would be if the trend went countrywide? I think any party that won loads more seats that another one would be ahead on vote share? I am not convinced PNS isight as I said yesterday but I am shocked that someone who is a paid political journalist go this wrong - or was she being snide?

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:50 pm

yahyah wrote:Happy birthday How Silly !!!

Hope it has been a good one so far.

Ta yahyah...apart from the work bit it has been fine!

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:52 pm

Hope you've had a smashing day ... Do the celebrations start this evening?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:54 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greens ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It is not funny or smart to poke fun at Andrew Marr
Roy Greenslade

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 09 May, 2016 5:56 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Hope you've had a smashing day ... Do the celebrations start this evening?

had some last weekend and there is a 'caves ouvertes' this weekend coming - 400 vineyards open to the public, £12 for a glass and then free samples as far as the eye can see....18 within walking distance of house, including next door but one neighbour! Have to prepare for that

My mate from Ayrshire said to me last year....'can you imagine if they did the same in Glasgow?'

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 09 May, 2016 6:01 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 20806.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Disability benefit cuts 'changing things for the better' DWP’s Stephen Crabb says

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 09 May, 2016 6:04 pm

http://blog.shelter.org.uk/2016/05/whos ... ey-anyway/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Whose homes are they anyway?

While publicity on the Housing and Planning Bill has been rightly focussed on the forced sale of council homes and Right to Buy, there has been little mention of a late Government amendment, made to the Bill in the Lords last month.

But it may prove to be a very big deal.

It potentially puts hundreds of social homes at risk of being lost to the sector, and could result in tenants losing the protection of regulated rents and landlord services.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 09 May, 2016 6:13 pm

HindleA wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 20806.html

Disability benefit cuts 'changing things for the better' DWP’s Stephen Crabb says

He's a piece of work ain't he. A slimy piece of work. He visited Haverfordwest job centre last week to say how brilliant Universal Credit is.

Absolutely no surprise to any of this - he was hired as a yes man and that's what he's going to carry on doing for as long as he can. He'll be like that bloody annoying duracell bunny - endlessly doing and saying the same.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 09 May, 2016 6:13 pm

@howsillyofme1
Happy birthday!

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 09 May, 2016 6:18 pm

Happy Birthday howsillyofme.

I hope you're going to be spectacularly silly and have a lot of fun with it. (Sounds like the open wine tastings should help with that.)

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 09 May, 2016 6:19 pm

RobertSnozers wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
This is the story of some squalid little men (and women), but it is a vital insight into the nexus of the political and corporate media elite. The Guardian, New Statesman and Huffington Post today all run major stories around a “focus group” study in Nuneaton which revealed that voters think Corbyn is “scruffy” and “old-fashioned”. This is deemed front page news.

The publicity was obviously supposed to coincide with Labour losing Nuneaton council, its most marginal council surrounded by Tory territory, in the council elections on Thursday. However Labour held Nuneaton. That did not stop the New Statesman article, by “research” authors James Morris and Ian Warren, from going ahead with the immortal phrase “While today’s Labour party has no hope of representing Nuneaton”. Err, it is still in control of the Council.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... page-news/
It's astonishing how quickly any references to this article are being removed

Have a look at http://46.101.255.81/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (you have to scroll past a lot of spam unfortunately)

I find that all too believable. The last focus group that took place in Nuneaton was pretty risible too.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Mon 09 May, 2016 6:21 pm

Someone on Cif complaining that links to the Craig Murray piece are being deleted.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 09 May, 2016 6:26 pm

@howsillyofme1

Happy birthday!

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 09 May, 2016 6:33 pm

James Forsyth ‏@JGForsyth 13m13 minutes ago
Sadiq Khan takes the Chiltern Hundreds, Treasury confirms

joncraigSKY ‏@joncraig 14m14 minutes ago
Sadiq Khan spokesman says PM told mayor he was "very keen for Sadiq to mobilise his election winning coalition" in support of staying in EU.

I'll bet he is.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 09 May, 2016 6:38 pm

Latest survey for Labour List - even worse than the usual questions - won't be doing it.

1. As a whole, how well did Labour do in last week's elections?

Very well

Well

Poorly

Very Poorly

Don't know

2. Should Labour's top priority now be the EU referendum?

Yes

No

Don't know

3. Do you think the “Elections are about taking sides. Labour is on yours” slogan had a positive or negative impact?

Positive

Negative

Don't know

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Mon 09 May, 2016 6:45 pm

Happy Birthday howsillyofme.

In other news - Devon and Cornwall Police have decided not to take up their PCC's offer of being kept out of the loop of the expenses investigation, and referred it on to another force. Well done them.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 09 May, 2016 6:50 pm

ANGRY military veterans turned on David Cameron today for using Second World War heroes to make the case for staying in the EU.

[url]http://www.express.co.uk/news/poli ... eo-Remain/

TR'sGhost · Post by **TR'sGhost** » Mon 09 May, 2016 6:57 pm

ephemerid wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

Laura Kuenssberg Verified account
‏@bbclaurak

David MIliband introducing the PM at this event - amazing venue of British Museum, audience full of diplomats (Politics Live, Guardian)
So when will he do the decent thing and join the Tories?

Probably never. He can do a much better job of furthering the Progress, Republican and Cameron cause(s) by remaining "Labour's king in waiting over the water" just waiting for the summons to save Labour from itself and complete the transformation of the party into a clone of the Democrats.

Yes, I am that cynical about Miliband D. Ever since he appeared on a Radio4 "Great Lives" programme about the recently deceased Joe Slovo and not only casually called Mandela and the ANC "terrorists" but defended that claim. Which would, under the legislation he supported, have seen anti-apartheid South Africans in exile in the UK deported and returned to the tender mercies of the apartheid regime. Including presumably his Labour colleague Peter Hain MP who when he left South Africa was himself the subject of a typical Daily Express/Mail led monstering campaign.

The other guest on that Great Lives was Gillian Slovo. Who handled Milliband pretty much as you'd expect from someone who'd lost their mother to South African state-sponsored terrorist murder and just heard her father, who risked the same fate daily, called a "terrorist" by a smooth operator with less than clean hands in the rendition and torture stakes himself. Which is to say with considerable amazement and disdain.

I can't remember the date of the programme, but I do have a recording of it somewhere.

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:00 pm

ephemerid wrote:Happy Birthday howsillyofme.

In other news - Devon and Cornwall Police have decided not to take up their PCC's offer of being kept out of the loop of the expenses investigation, and referred it on to another force. Well done them.

But what of the political persuasion of the PCC of the other force? All chums together no doubt, and precisely the problem predicted with the politicisation of the police.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:06 pm

On the Bracknell Labour Page, we have been having a bit of a discussion about Hunts statement on business opportunities in the care sector.

One of the members wrote this:

My mother in law has carers 5 times a day. She has dementia and a rare form of MND. Her care costs £1600 per month. If she goes into a care home it will cost £4000 per month. When her house and savings are spent we have been told that some care homes can ask immediate family to foot the bill. Her care company cannot retain its staff as the contracts being offered are zero hours, minimum wage and no payment offered for travelling to and from clients.
The local council cannot afford to pay the care company the rates they are asking - £32 per hour because of the budget cuts imposed on them by Osborne. This is a dire situation. I really hate this uncaring government .

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:11 pm

Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 39m39 minutes ago
The parliamentary by-election for Tooting has now been confirmed for 9th of June.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:17 pm

Still nothing from Seeingclearly...Getting worried now.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:18 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 39m39 minutes ago
The parliamentary by-election for Tooting has now been confirmed for 9th of June.

I hope they select a good Labour candidate. I think this one really matters (they all do) because of the immense scrutiny it will get. The media will love it because it's London ... nice and handy for getting all the goss and showing off their supposed knowledge.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:22 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
RobertSnozers wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
It's astonishing how quickly any references to this article are being removed

Have a look at http://46.101.255.81/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (you have to scroll past a lot of spam unfortunately)
I find that all too believable. The last focus group that took place in Nuneaton was pretty risible too.

I've tweeted it and drawn attention to the fact references to it are being deleted...Got this tweet a minute ago.

Craig Murray ‏@CraigMurrayOrg 33m33 minutes ago
@dimayray Thank you Diane. The Guardian moderators have been kept very busy!

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:24 pm

Jeremy Hunt says Britain's care time bomb is 'one of the biggest commercial opportunities' for private firms
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/je ... ar_twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

WTF.

What else can I say but to tell you the top comment BTL is 'Who voted for these a***holes?'

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:27 pm

LOL

George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton 36s37 seconds ago
Jess Phillips to Corbyn at PLP: "I thought socialism was about 'we' but it's all been about you - and that's not a good thing."

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:29 pm

Great Lives-Joe SloVo was on 11/14 th August 2009,had link but wasn't "playing"

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:29 pm

I'm glad Corbyn has told the PLP that members expect them to take on the Tories not each other and to stop parading in the media and providing a running commentary.

Going to be interesting to see if those responsible take it on board and adjust their behaviour or not.

I think I told you how surprised I was at a CLP meeting a few months back when a member stood up and asked the secretary to send a letter to the PLP asking them to stop all the public bickering and start focussing on the Tories. She got pretty unanimous support.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:31 pm

Gallery buys rare album by Victorian photographic pioneer

National Portrait Gallery raises nearly £75,000 for 19th-century collection of early portraits by Oscar Gustav Rejlander

Rejlander, a colourful, theatrical figure, was born in Sweden, studied in Rome and made his way in about 1846 to Wolverhampton, where he opened a photographic studio. (Guardian - my emphasis)

Like you do . . . .

http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign ... der-album-

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:32 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:LOL

George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton 36s37 seconds ago
Jess Phillips to Corbyn at PLP: "I thought socialism was about 'we' but it's all been about you - and that's not a good thing."

What on earth does she mean or, more importantly, hope to achieve with that kind of remark? It makes her sound envious of the endless media shit he's been getting - is she?

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:34 pm

Rochdale Online ‏@RochdaleOnline 59m59 minutes ago
“Karen Danczuk should face disciplinary action” says Heywood and Middleton MP Liz McInnes http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-fe ... iz-mcinnes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:34 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:LOL

George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton 36s37 seconds ago
Jess Phillips to Corbyn at PLP: "I thought socialism was about 'we' but it's all been about you - and that's not a good thing."
What on earth does she mean or, more importantly, hope to achieve with that kind of remark? It makes her sound envious of the endless media shit he's been getting - is she?

Well, it's hardly his fault, is it? Stupid woman. (Can I say that?)

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:36 pm

Jess Phillips is an immature person.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:36 pm

So it seems to have had no effect at all ...

Adam Boulton Retweeted
George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton 5m5 minutes ago
Shadow minister tells me Corbyn offered a "GCSE analysis of election results".

I'm with you PfY re George Eaton now.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:37 pm

PorFavor wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:LOL

George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton 36s37 seconds ago
Jess Phillips to Corbyn at PLP: "I thought socialism was about 'we' but it's all been about you - and that's not a good thing."
What on earth does she mean or, more importantly, hope to achieve with that kind of remark? It makes her sound envious of the endless media shit he's been getting - is she?
Well, it's hardly his fault, is it? Stupid woman. (Can I say that?)

You just have.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:38 pm

What are Tory government doing?
A whole lot scary by the looks of their media looping

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:41 pm

If so better than a kindergarten analysis.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 09 May, 2016 7:45 pm

These bitterites cannot help themselves now......we have had elections and there has not been any sort of disaster...in fact, apart from Scotland, we would have been delighted with them on Thursday morning. And Scotland is not his fault!

Not everyone supports Corbyn, including on here, but there is a way to do it and these anonymous briefings are cowardly and nauseating