Thursday 9th June 2016
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The audience have some thick clappers.
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Gisela Stuart is a shit head. Talking about Turkey joining the EU.
Corbyn ought to tell her off.
Corbyn ought to tell her off.
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Oh thank goodness. We are so glad to hear from you.......seeingclearly wrote:Just to say hi to all. Not he time to read yet I have been in hospital since late April with septicaemia and spinal abcsss and no internet. Am on new device so please forgive, havemizsed this pace like mad hops all are well. Best wish's shl h s to. Arch up. Xxx2
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:Gisela Stuart is a shit head. Talking about Turkey joining the EU.
Corbyn ought to tell her off.
Full on lying about immigration now Tubby....will only get worse as it is the only thing they have left and it is is sickening so many people are going for it....really expecting to have a Facebook friends clearcut soon
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Stuart needs calling out by Corbyn over this. I'm all for party unity. This isn't it.howsillyofme1 wrote:Tubby Isaacs wrote:Gisela Stuart is a shit head. Talking about Turkey joining the EU.
Corbyn ought to tell her off.
Full on lying about immigration now Tubby....will only get worse as it is the only thing they have left and it is is sickening so many people are going for it....really expecting to have a Facebook friends clearcut soon
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They still have the sovereignty rubbish left. Though they shouldn't have.
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Hi seeingclearly ,sorry to hear about travails,look after yourself.
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I think Corbyn could have shone there.
He has a huge card, being a proper sceptic. Needs to get himself out there.
He has a huge card, being a proper sceptic. Needs to get himself out there.
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Boris's fan club...Tim Montgomerie ن @montie 52m52 minutes ago
Haven't kept count but think Boris has had more applause than every 1 else added up. He's as loved by public as knocked by pundits #ITVEURef
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:They still have the sovereignty rubbish left. Though they shouldn't have.
I still think this is their strongest card as on the face of it leaving the EU would allow us to take back decision-making
This is nice and simple to explain but, as with everything else, is essentially meaningless unless you want to leave the single market, and no-one on Leave wants to say that as it will lead to short-term economic meltdown in my view - pound will tank and stay that way until the uncertainty is lifted...at least 2 years
The choice seems to me:
Leave EU, join EEA and so have no more sovereignty (in fact less as have no veto) and no more control over immigration
Leave EU and single market. Any access to EU will come via bilaterals and, as Switzerland has shown, this does not come with attractive terms. The economy will be in a mess for a long time to come, but hey we will be able to stop a few Poles coming in! Pity about the visas and border with the RoI though!
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FWIW,after visitation to Scotland and not meeting anyone a definite for Remain among overwhelmingly SNP family/friends(admittedly only a small group)and zero evidence of Remain campaign but plenty on the Leave side-posters,stalls etc,not wholly confident as I was once was about a Remain "win".
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Trump,Brexit and Johnson,is there is a Leave World option?
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It comes with the territory of being leader. It will come again with PMQs, except Corbyn will never get the last word.
If he can't do it, he needs to learn fast. That doesn't mean he has to compete on a narrow range of soundbites. He is genuinely different, he'll make different points for which there is a big potential audience, and he is a proper sceptic too.
He's not cutting through. He knows what the media is like. He needs to something about it.
If he can't do it, he needs to learn fast. That doesn't mean he has to compete on a narrow range of soundbites. He is genuinely different, he'll make different points for which there is a big potential audience, and he is a proper sceptic too.
He's not cutting through. He knows what the media is like. He needs to something about it.
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Don't think so. He is done for if a Remain, as there should be.RobertSnozers wrote:Christ, he's going to be PM, isn't heohsocynical wrote:Boris's fan club...Tim Montgomerie ن @montie 52m52 minutes ago
Haven't kept count but think Boris has had more applause than every 1 else added up. He's as loved by public as knocked by pundits #ITVEURef
Khan needs to do well against him though.
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steve hawkes @steve_hawkes 23m23 minutes ago
EXCL John Mann breaks cover and calls for working class Brits to back a Brexit (by @craigawoodhouse )
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/ ... te-brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Working on the wild side.
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Looking at the trend in polling from Mike Smithson I would say momentum is with leave at the moment. In the chaos after a brexit vote who knows what is going to happen? And Brexit isa very real possibility at the moment.Tubby Isaacs wrote:Don't think so. He is done for if a Remain, as there should be.RobertSnozers wrote:Christ, he's going to be PM, isn't heohsocynical wrote: Boris's fan club...
Khan needs to do well against him though.
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That'll raise the intellectual quality of the debate.rebeccariots2 wrote:steve hawkes @steve_hawkes 23m23 minutes ago
EXCL John Mann breaks cover and calls for working class Brits to back a Brexit (by @craigawoodhouse )
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/ ... te-brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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The UK exporters haven't really got stuck in yet.Temulkar wrote:Looking at the trend in polling from Mike Smithson I would say momentum is with leave at the moment. In the chaos after a brexit vote who knows what is going to happen? And Brexit isa very real possibility at the moment.Tubby Isaacs wrote:Don't think so. He is done for if a Remain, as there should be.RobertSnozers wrote: Christ, he's going to be PM, isn't he
Khan needs to do well against him though.