Friday 24th June 2016

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:08 pm

https://twitter.com/garymillar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Someone saying some businesses reporting imported goods up 10% overnight and more than 20 % of orders cancelled because of the vote, and another family business has had £200,000 worth of orders cancelled with jobs now at risk.

Rebecca · Post by **Rebecca** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:08 pm

yahyah wrote:
HindleA wrote:http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/busi ... -1-7980813

Nissan says ‘no comment’ on future of Sunderland plant after Brexit
Sunderland Leave voters may get a harsh lesson in the karmic laws of cause and effect.

Serve them fucking right.They were warned by Nissan in 2014.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:09 pm

Maybe there'll be a very loud noise sweeping the country soon.
The sound of millions of Brexit voters sucking their teeth and saying 'Oh ****, did I do that ?'.

Well, I live in hopes.

Rebecca · Post by **Rebecca** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:10 pm

StephenDolan wrote:
yahyah wrote:
StephenDolan wrote: It's all in the pdf I linked to earlier. Polling carried out for him yesterday. 12369 people if I remember correctly.
Mmm...so more Labour people voted Leave than Tories.
I am in the wrong party.
Nope, that's the spin in the tweet. Try this instead

So why no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn?
I am so angry.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:10 pm

Shlomo Anker
‏@Hapoel4

if you are a Labour member, use this form to contact the party to defend Corbyn. takes 2mins

http://www.labour.org.uk/page/s/membership-contact-form" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:11 pm

StephenDolan wrote:
utopiandreams wrote:Cameron may have secured a million more votes had he stood down beforehand. We shall never know.
Cameron may have secured a million not introducing individual voter registration.

17,410,742 Leave voters out of an electorate totalling 46,501,241

37.44% Leave vote share

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:11 pm

Thanks Stephen.

TR'sGhost · Post by **TR'sGhost** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:14 pm

yahyah wrote:
HindleA wrote:http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/busi ... -1-7980813

Nissan says ‘no comment’ on future of Sunderland plant after Brexit
Sunderland Leave voters may get a harsh lesson in the karmic laws of cause and effect.

For which the Japanese will probably get the blame.

Everything bad that happens from now on will be blamed on Johnny Foreigner up to his dirty tricks to do down Great Britain in revenge.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:15 pm

Peter Jukes@
I think the vast majority of Leavers have been sold a pup.
The backlash will be phenomenal. We must make sure they blame the right people.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:16 pm

yahyah wrote:Maybe there'll be a very loud noise sweeping the country soon.
The sound of millions of Brexit voters sucking their teeth and saying 'Oh ****, did I do that ?'.

Well, I live in hopes.

Some may do that. However more will, I fear, simply double down on blaming "immigruntz" and the rest.

(so no, I don't share Peter Jukes confidence it will be the "vast majority")

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:17 pm

yahyah wrote:Maybe there'll be a very loud noise sweeping the country soon.
The sound of millions of Brexit voters sucking their teeth and saying 'Oh ****, did I do that ?'.

Well, I live in hopes.

(my bold)

62.56% of the UK electorate didn't Brexit

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:17 pm

Brexiteers not taking responsibilty for what they have done.
This will be a commonplace occurrence.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:17 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Shlomo Anker
‏@Hapoel4

if you are a Labour member, use this form to contact the party to defend Corbyn. takes 2mins

http://www.labour.org.uk/page/s/membership-contact-form" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

done

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:21 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Shlomo Anker
‏@Hapoel4

if you are a Labour member, use this form to contact the party to defend Corbyn. takes 2mins

http://www.labour.org.uk/page/s/membership-contact-form" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

I've already phoned and told them what I think. Nice young man on the other end.
You have to write in to cancel membership.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:23 pm

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CltotvJWMAAqo9o.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It wouldn't be Trump's name on my placard, and it would have to be a very long one to fit all the names on.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:24 pm

Jeanne Bartram ‏@JeanneBartram 16m16 minutes ago

Website crashes as call for second EU Referendum proves popular http://ln.is/www.itv.com/news/cal/Dq2hr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:25 pm

John Moylan ‏@JohnMoylanBBC 2h2 hours ago

#Airbus employs 15,000 people in the UK - firm says it will review its investment strategy here.

Have we had this one?

Rebecca · Post by **Rebecca** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:25 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Shlomo Anker
‏@Hapoel4

if you are a Labour member, use this form to contact the party to defend Corbyn. takes 2mins

http://www.labour.org.uk/page/s/membership-contact-form" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Done,thanks

Rebecca · Post by **Rebecca** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:31 pm

Are there any leave voters hanging around here today?
Have you a positive view of things,or plan?Or something?
I would genuinely love to hear it.
Apparently Iran is delighted.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:32 pm

The Lexit vote for it, see what happens, and then educate people idea, can see that working really well with so many jobs at risk.

What will they say to people who lose their jobs ? Thank us for making you unemployed in order to raise your political consciousness ?

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:32 pm

Financial Times ‏@FT 5h5 hours ago

Regions with the biggest votes for Leave are also the most economically dependent on the EU

http://on.ft.com/28SsiHq" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:33 pm

Rebecca wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:
yahyah wrote: Mmm...so more Labour people voted Leave than Tories.
I am in the wrong party.
Nope, that's the spin in the tweet. Try this instead

So why no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn?
I am so angry.

I know. Sturgeon resign, you only provided 1% more Remain supporters in your party than Corbyn...

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:33 pm

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClsbrhFUoAEBSh5.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Our new PM ?

thatchersorphan · Post by **thatchersorphan** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:33 pm

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/ ... ter-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; A VOTE OF CONFIDENCE IN JEREMY CORBYN AFTER BREXIT

For many working-class people, this was not a referendum on the EU. After all, very few of us know very much about it, apart from what the likes of the Daily Mail’s bananagate told us. The referendum, for most working-class people, has been a referendum on their lives today
Lisa McKenzie writes in https://www.timeshighereducation.com/bl ... ted-change" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:38 pm

Rebecca wrote:Are there any leave voters hanging around here today?
Have you a positive view of things,or plan?Or something?
I would genuinely love to hear it.
Apparently Iran is delighted.

Hiding under the duvet sobbing ? I know I would be.

Sorry, broad brush again.
It'll be easier in a few days.
I'm still worrying whether my husband's company pension is at risk. It does focus the mind somewhat.
Also wondering whether to call the builder to cancel the rest of the job he is due to do next month.
Not sure I want to spend money unnecessarily at the moment. The bill for the house painting and materials just done was eye watering enough.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:39 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
HindleA wrote:NY Stock Exchange has dropped 500 points
Oh shit. We haven't triggered a bank crash or world recession have we?

No one will want to play with us if we crash economies

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:40 pm

thatchersorphan wrote:https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/ ... ter-brexit A VOTE OF CONFIDENCE IN JEREMY CORBYN AFTER BREXIT

For many working-class people, this was not a referendum on the EU. After all, very few of us know very much about it, apart from what the likes of the Daily Mail’s bananagate told us. The referendum, for most working-class people, has been a referendum on their lives today
Lisa McKenzie writes in https://www.timeshighereducation.com/bl ... ted-change" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Exactly the same reason for voting the Tories in when Brown had just successfully handled the crash.

TobyLatimer · Post by **TobyLatimer** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:41 pm

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Rebecca · Post by **Rebecca** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:42 pm

yahyah wrote:
Rebecca wrote:Are there any leave voters hanging around here today?
Have you a positive view of things,or plan?Or something?
I would genuinely love to hear it.
Apparently Iran is delighted.

Hiding under the duvet sobbing ? I know I would be.

Sorry, broad brush again.
It'll be easier in a few days.
I'm still worrying whether my husband's company pension is at risk. It does focus the mind somewhat.
Also wondering whether to call the builder to cancel the rest of the job he is due to do next month.
Not sure I want to spend money unnecessarily at the moment. The bill for the house painting and materials just done was eye watering enough.

Well,it is a broad brush isn't it?
A 52% brush sweeping away the economic viability of 48% of the country.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:43 pm

citizenJA wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
HindleA wrote:NY Stock Exchange has dropped 500 points
Oh shit. We haven't triggered a bank crash or world recession have we?
No one will want to play with us if we crash economies

Not to mention voluntarily and completely avoidably.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:44 pm

Join the single market on same terms as Norway. It's the only way. If they'll have us, of course. A change of government would help. I suspect much of Europe is pretty fed up of the current one by now.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:45 pm

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/rally-in-b ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

TobyLatimer · Post by **TobyLatimer** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:47 pm

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:49 pm

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/e ... r-11522343" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?
brexit has made task of defending citizens from crime more difficult

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:51 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... paign=1490" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:53 pm

Wonder what Theresa Villiers has planned for the island of Ireland single energy market, and how that will continue now that Northern Ireland is outside the EU

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:54 pm

Have not calmed down yet. Saw an EU flag on a car in Sheffield - never seen that before. Applauded, hope they saw me in their rear view mirror.

Then a quite hideously revolting BBC radio news bulletin, which went: Gove saying Cameron was a great PM; Peter Bone telling Sturgeon to get back in her box; some pleased voters in Tipton who talked about nothing but immigrants; Hodge savaging Corbyn. Half expected Farage to come on and tell us he'd annexed the national media.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:58 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vo ... nt-8275677" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?
youngsters demonstrating about absence of vote - heartening

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 3:59 pm

a massive demo might help - at least to show the world that we are not all xenophobes or masochists

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:00 pm

Medhi Hasan on the twitter.
'Dear UK centrists who voted for pragmatic, economy-friendly Cameron over crazy, dangerous Marxist Miliband last year...good call. Good call.'

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:01 pm

Nathan Gill, the Ukip leader in Wales, said the setting was significant.

"Chartism was founded in Wales; it was a grassroots organisation. We have a grassroots organisation.
There are people here from all political parties. There’re all kinds of different people. The Chartists knew
what they wanted – the fundamental causes on their charter. We knew what we wanted, we could boil it
down to one thing: we want our country back."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/liv ... 24d34f5f04" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Random word generation from Gill above - he's not got the first idea about Chartism, fundamental causes or grass-roots

wewantourcountryback

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:07 pm

the petitions site has been down for ages now - probably a few thousand signatures at least missed

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:11 pm

Willow904 wrote:Join the single market on same terms as Norway. It's the only way. If they'll have us, of course. A change of government would help. I suspect much of Europe is pretty fed up of the current one by now.

Feeling more consolation in the result being as close as it was now.

Temulkar · Post by **Temulkar** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:15 pm

General Election in November I think, in the midst of a recession. I wonder if Boris could end up as the shortest time ever for a sitting prime minister?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:17 pm

http://www.globalconstructionreview.com ... y-bre7xit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?
architects speak out

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:19 pm

With respect,of course it depends at what level and relative but a 1.3 million margin isn't scraping over the line,many places barely reached a third of the voters for Remain.I don't view it as close.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:19 pm

Willow904 wrote:Join the single market on same terms as Norway. It's the only way. If they'll have us, of course. A change of government would help. I suspect much of Europe is pretty fed up of the current one by now.

It would have to be open borders if we did, so that wouldn't go down well And I don't think Norway thinks much of the deal.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:20 pm

"The European Union has invested more than £100 million pounds in improving access to Higher Education across Cornwall along with numerous other projects designed to drive economic growth. In addition the educational, social and cultural benefits that the University has derived from being part of the EU are huge.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:21 pm

President Martin Schulz says speeding up of UK exit being considered after ‘continent taken hostage because of Tory party fight’

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

How humiliating.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 24 Jun, 2016 4:26 pm

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/bus ... n-11520016" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?
aren't these the sorts of questions we should have been discussing before the vote?
[Wales had secured around £1.8bn European Structural Funds investment for up to 2020 from the European Union....Previously structural funds have been used for major infrastructure projects like the Parc Eirias redevelopment, Superfast Cymru, Anglesey Circuit, and Venue Cymru.]