Monday 27th June 2016

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 8:49 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:

I think it unlikely.

Edit

Unless the plan is to lose abd immediately trigger another contest to make a point.
They'll try every trick in the book. I think that's becoming obvious.

Corbyn still has to go, he is seen by too many people to have no concept of leadership. His friends are also generally disliked, SWP will never be allowed near power by the electorate.

On a personal level I am disgusted by the stuff coming out about the hobbling of the remain campaign.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 8:49 pm

PorFavor wrote:There was something a bit unsettling about the way John McDonnell was behaving. And I usually like John McDonnell.

He is an old campaigner - this type of thing probably is what he thrives on

Not what is needed but that's him

TobyLatimer · Post by **TobyLatimer** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 8:49 pm

Lily Allen seems to have come over all left wing https://twitter.com/lilyallen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Tweeting some interesting pics from the rally.

Temulkar · Post by **Temulkar** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 8:50 pm

Laura K saying its a fake tweet.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 8:51 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote: I think it unlikely.

Edit

Unless the plan is to lose abd immediately trigger another contest to make a point.
They'll try every trick in the book. I think that's becoming obvious.
Corbyn still has to go, he is seen by too many people to have no concept of leadership. His friends are also generally disliked, SWP will never be allowed near power by the electorate.

On a personal level I am disgusted by the stuff coming out about the hobbling of the remain campaign.

I think some of those complaints about 'hobbling' look a bit overblown

Johnson can't just blame the leadership - he was absolutely woeful - looks a bit of buck passing

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 8:52 pm

apparently Mandelson was a fake tweet but tells me two things

The Guardian will post any old shite

The Labour Party is such a mess that we don't dismiss it 100%

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 8:54 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
Temulkar wrote:
StephenDolan wrote: Lucy Powell when interviewed by Nick Robinson on Today.
Owen Smith admitted live on air that it was being orchestrated, and fair play condemned the plotters for that.
If some of the resignations can be shown to not be part of some sort of plot....such as them condemning them like Smith did then perhaps, and just perhaps, that may open it up for more credible contenders

Every one of those MPs that walked out knew what they were doing. Each resignation was timed. The aim was to keep up press coverage.

I reckon it's suddenly dawning on the more brighter MPs that they've probably ruined their political careers. They're certainly not getting much support on Twitter.
Will we be hearing quite a bit of, 'it wasn't me guv' over the next few weeks? I reckon so.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 8:55 pm

HindleA wrote:A lot of pretend Socialists with their Chardonnay and Vermouth I don't even know what the latter is.Us real Socialists don't indullge in such bourgoise pretensions,really is a disgrace they don't comply with the rule book on this,I bet they haven't even read it .Tsk.

vermouth now hidden at the back of the cupboard. along with the sparkling rose.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 8:57 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
HindleA wrote:A lot of pretend Socialists with their Chardonnay and Vermouth I don't even know what the latter is.Us real Socialists don't indullge in such bourgoise pretensions,really is a disgrace they don't comply with the rule book on this,I bet they haven't even read it .Tsk.
I had a Pukka Pie washed down with Dandelion and Burdock......think I am a proper prole!

A cup of tea.

mbc1955 · Post by **mbc1955** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 8:57 pm

A cafeine free Diet Coke and a couple of Rich Tea fingers

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 8:58 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
HindleA wrote:A lot of pretend Socialists with their Chardonnay and Vermouth I don't even know what the latter is.Us real Socialists don't indullge in such bourgoise pretensions,really is a disgrace they don't comply with the rule book on this,I bet they haven't even read it .Tsk.
I had a Pukka Pie washed down with Dandelion and Burdock......think I am a proper prole!
A cup of tea.

just about to have one.....leaving teabag in as well - and it is a chipped mug

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 8:58 pm

Mug of peppermint tea on the go here.

mbc1955 · Post by **mbc1955** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 8:59 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote: I had a Pukka Pie washed down with Dandelion and Burdock......think I am a proper prole!
A cup of tea.
just about to have one.....leaving teabag in as well - and it is a chipped mug

I bow to your impeccably back street terrace iconography

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:00 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote: I had a Pukka Pie washed down with Dandelion and Burdock......think I am a proper prole!
A cup of tea.
just about to have one.....leaving teabag in as well - and it is a chipped mug

I leave the tea bag in too.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:00 pm

just finishing off the snifter I referred to earlier. will be putting the kettle on shortly.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:02 pm

mbc1955 wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
ohsocynical wrote: A cup of tea.
just about to have one.....leaving teabag in as well - and it is a chipped mug
I bow to your impeccably back street terrace iconography

Born in Birkenhead, dragged up in Wolverhampton, lived in Lower Broughton, Salford......don't get much more unlucky than that

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:04 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote: I had a Pukka Pie washed down with Dandelion and Burdock......think I am a proper prole!
A cup of tea.
just about to have one.....leaving teabag in as well - and it is a chipped mug

I've been known to put condensed milk in my (very) strong tea. But I didn't inherit my grandad's penchant for drinking his tea out of his saucer.

(Condensed milk is another difficult commodity. Hard to now source non-Nestle varieties - although they do still exist.)

Maeght · Post by **Maeght** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:05 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
HindleA wrote:A lot of pretend Socialists with their Chardonnay and Vermouth I don't even know what the latter is.Us real Socialists don't indullge in such bourgoise pretensions,really is a disgrace they don't comply with the rule book on this,I bet they haven't even read it .Tsk.
vermouth now hidden at the back of the cupboard. along with the sparkling rose.

Vermouth is fine, as long as it is Noilly Prat. Never had sparkling rosé but if I were desperate........

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:05 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:just finishing off the snifter I referred to earlier. will be putting the kettle on shortly.

I used to just fall asleep when drunk. You wear kettles?

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:06 pm

Maeght wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:
HindleA wrote:A lot of pretend Socialists with their Chardonnay and Vermouth I don't even know what the latter is.Us real Socialists don't indullge in such bourgoise pretensions,really is a disgrace they don't comply with the rule book on this,I bet they haven't even read it .Tsk.
vermouth now hidden at the back of the cupboard. along with the sparkling rose.
Vermouth is fine, as long as it is Noilly Prat. Never had sparkling rosé but if I were desperate........

I reckon a cheeky bottle of red label Thunderbird...or, if Scottish, Bucky is a perfectly acceptable prole beverage as well

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:06 pm

Maeght wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:
HindleA wrote:A lot of pretend Socialists with their Chardonnay and Vermouth I don't even know what the latter is.Us real Socialists don't indullge in such bourgoise pretensions,really is a disgrace they don't comply with the rule book on this,I bet they haven't even read it .Tsk.
vermouth now hidden at the back of the cupboard. along with the sparkling rose.
Vermouth is fine, as long as it is Noilly Prat. Never had sparkling rosé but if I were desperate........

100% agreement.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:08 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
Maeght wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote: vermouth now hidden at the back of the cupboard. along with the sparkling rose.
Vermouth is fine, as long as it is Noilly Prat. Never had sparkling rosé but if I were desperate........
100% agreement.

Problem is I now speak French and that 'll' is always difficult for someone with a Wulfrunian accent - much easier when I could just say it in English

fedup59 · Post by **fedup59** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:09 pm

I reckon if I was organising a coup I'd have a coupee (is there a word coup beneficiary?) This is feeling increasingly Monty pythonish - no you do it says Michael Palin, you just know that ultimately it'll be a staggeringly pontificating john cleese who steps into the breach.

My daughter was bemoaning that she'd woken up in the evil mirror universe and wanted to go home but we seem to have shifted to beyond satire planet. This is breathtakingly stupid. Are there any functioning brain cells at work in post Britain exit? Mine have just given up the ghost.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:09 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:England losing to Iceland.
And I'm pleased.

Listening to Clive Tyldesley it's easy to grasp how Leave won. Horrible misplaced arrogance personified.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:10 pm

The glasses we use to drink out of are jars

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:11 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
Problem is I now speak French and that 'll' is always difficult for someone with a Wulfrunian accent - much easier when I could just say it in English

Are we allowed to speak furrin' languages in post-Brexit Britain?

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:14 pm

mbc1955 wrote:A cafeine free Diet Coke and a couple of Rich Tea fingers

You should stay off Diet Coke if you have diabetes. Although there's no sugar in it, it plays tricks on your body. Sends your blood sugars all over the place. It's really bad for you.
All Mr Ohso's 7 brothers and sisters, have or had it. All his countless nieces and nephews have it and many of their children too. Our daughter who lives in the States has it.

Mr Ohso and our son are the only two in the family who don't and one of the things they stay away from is diet coke.

Have a nice strong cup of tea instead.

fedup59 · Post by **fedup59** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:15 pm

Mine's irn bru!!!

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:15 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
ohsocynical wrote: They'll try every trick in the book. I think that's becoming obvious.
Corbyn still has to go, he is seen by too many people to have no concept of leadership. His friends are also generally disliked, SWP will never be allowed near power by the electorate.

On a personal level I am disgusted by the stuff coming out about the hobbling of the remain campaign.

I think some of those complaints about 'hobbling' look a bit overblown

Johnson can't just blame the leadership - he was absolutely woeful - looks a bit of buck passing

I thought Alan Johnson was useless in the referendum campaign.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:16 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
ohsocynical wrote: A cup of tea.
just about to have one.....leaving teabag in as well - and it is a chipped mug
I leave the tea bag in too.

Loose leaf drunk out of a flat cap while walking a whippet.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:16 pm

citizenJA wrote:The glasses we use to drink out of are jars

Glasses? Never had them in the house when I was young. They broke too easily. Tea cups did the job.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:18 pm

The ghost of Clement Attlee,the cads.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:20 pm

Pauline Lane ‏@Antonineone1 1h1 hour ago
Pauline Lane Retweeted Stanley

Owen Smith is very short! He's my MP. Ex special adviser, ambitious and not to be trusted. #KeepCorbyn

See what I mean about lack of sympathy.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:21 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
Problem is I now speak French and that 'll' is always difficult for someone with a Wulfrunian accent - much easier when I could just say it in English
Are we allowed to speak furrin' languages in post-Brexit Britain?

aucune idée

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:23 pm

JonnyT1234 wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote: just about to have one.....leaving teabag in as well - and it is a chipped mug
I leave the tea bag in too.
Loose leaf drunk out of a flat cap while walking a whippet.

A Yorkshireman's sexual fantasy........sorry Paul

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:25 pm

Mountain Boy
‏@sharpeleven
#c4news @OwenSmith_
MP dripping hypocrisy from every pore. "Doesn't want to split the party" as he plots with Blairites in secret.

Scarlet Wilde ‏@wilde 2h2 hours ago
@sharpeleven @OwenSmith_
MP Deselection. No more gravy train from us.

Julia Jay ‏@JuliaJay8 14m14 minutes ago
@sharpeleven
He really cares for the people, the sanctioned, the women w/out pensions. Deselect the little shite @OwenSmith_MP

So he's not going to the top of the popularity stakes.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:26 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
JonnyT1234 wrote:
ohsocynical wrote: I leave the tea bag in too.
Loose leaf drunk out of a flat cap while walking a whippet.
A Yorkshireman's sexual fantasy........sorry Paul

Mr Ohso's got a flat cap.

Rebecca · Post by **Rebecca** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:28 pm

Picture of the pro Corbyn rally in the guardian.
Whatever the anti Corbyn brigade here and elsewhere say,there is no member of the PLP who ,on facing mass calls for resignation ,would have a fraction of the support he has.
The place was heaving.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:28 pm

Fitch also downgraded us:

Part of the decision was that the EU referendum “makes a second referendum on Scottish independence more probable in the short to medium term,” the release said.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:28 pm

My opinion is the same one,when similar attempts were made by the target rather than a previous instigator,which happen to be the same person.I may of course be equally wrong/right but at least consistently so.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:29 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
JonnyT1234 wrote: Loose leaf drunk out of a flat cap while walking a whippet.
A Yorkshireman's sexual fantasy........sorry Paul
Mr Ohso's got a flat cap.

would need a whippet as well....

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:32 pm

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https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status ... 8897347584

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:33 pm

George EatonVerified account
‏@georgeeaton

Ian Murray complained to Corbyn about aggressive demo outside his office. "Call off the dogs," he told him.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:34 pm

ohsocynical wrote:George EatonVerified account
‏@georgeeaton

Ian Murray complained to Corbyn about aggressive demo outside his office. "Call off the dogs," he told him.

did he say that in a butch growl....?

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:34 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote: A Yorkshireman's sexual fantasy........sorry Paul
Mr Ohso's got a flat cap.

would need a whippet as well....

Daughter in law's mother has a scruffy greyhound

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:35 pm

ohsocynical wrote:George EatonVerified account
‏@georgeeaton

Ian Murray complained to Corbyn about aggressive demo outside his office. "Call off the dogs," he told him.

Boo hoo, cry me a fecking river.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:36 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
ohsocynical wrote: Mr Ohso's got a flat cap.

would need a whippet as well....
Daughter in law's mother has a scruffy greyhound

will have to await Paul I am afraid...I am not a Yorkshireman....

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:37 pm

"I was as elected as the Labour Party's leader to redistribute wealth and power"
- Corbyn

I don't have a lot, me. I'm not terrified of redistribution. Power? All I want is enough. I doubt I'm unusual.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:38 pm

steve hawkes ‏@steve_hawkes 2h2 hours ago

In Westminster listening to huge roars from pro-Corbyn rally - while lampooned by his own MPs not sure who in Labour could draw such crowds

They're saying 10,000 turned up with just 24 hours notice.
There really is a different mood in the country. Leave is said to be an act of defiance ... Looks as if there's another in the making.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Mon 27 Jun, 2016 9:40 pm

citizenJA wrote:
"I was as elected as the Labour Party's leader to redistribute wealth and power"
- Corbyn
I don't have a lot, me. I'm not terrified of redistribution. Power? All I want is enough. I doubt I'm unusual.

If they came to my house they'd have to leave something.