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Thanks for that tinybgoat.I keep those records organisations ask you to do. they are getting a bit bizarre.how many polar bears standing on a mint do you see at this time of year?
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Davis as Lord Emsworth, Johnson as Galahad & Fox as the Empress?PorFavor wrote:Another "Time-share" situation with hilarious consequences? A PG Wodehouse "Blandings Castle" story?
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I like both. Rowson makes you think. Bell though is the cartoonist that has given me belly laughs.JonnyT1234 wrote:For the little it is worth, I like Bell and Rowson. I find Bell more imaginative than Rowson, Rowson more intellectual than Bell.
Bell's If... is very spotty, but his main cartoon has more often than not been excellent across the 30+ years I've been reading the Graun. Quite an achievement I'd say.
Edit: it also helps that Bell reminds me of my dad, both in terms of looks and wry humour.
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That wouldn't have done you any good here on Sunday.HindleA wrote:Unless a hot air balloon happened to come directly above we were discrete.
Mr Ohso was gazing out of the window and couldn't believe his eyes when a Virgin hot air balloon complete with a full basket of corporate sightseers, made an emergency landing in the school field just over the back of us...A few yards less and he'd have been on our roof.....
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Nice to see the band they became after Ian Curtis died are doing their bit for the communitymbc1955 wrote:Favourite. Song. Ever.citizenJA wrote:Joy Divisionmbc1955 wrote: Love does that as well.
I always liked that song
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Sadly, since the eu h&s directive, only one at a time,HindleA wrote:Thanks for that tinybgoat.I keep those records organisations ask you to do. they are getting a bit bizarre.how many polar bears standing on a mint do you see at this time of year?
although polar bears are very territorial so you wouldn't have expected to see
more than one outside breeding season.
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True, which is why I read it yesterday or Saturday when it was first linked to. The problem remains though, that the people doing the criticising are not exactly demonstrating much in the way of competence themselves. So little of it in fact, that I am not much convinced that they'd be in any way better.nickyinnorfolk wrote: Thangham Debonnaire's FB post is worth a read.
Hence the Belltoon I linked to.
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Solution to Labour's woes found.
[Not actually joking]Labour MP Karl Turner turns up at Labour leadership hustings with his newborn kid and suggests it could make a good leadership candidate.
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Speaking of cartoons...Spot Cameron's shoes.
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James Chespy to Corbyn 50yrs+ Supporters Group
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By what authority does Progress have in accessing my personal membership details as held by the Labour Party? If my membership details have been made available to Progress or any other third party without prior permission then an offence has been committed under the data protection act..
Damon Rowley I've had a revolting email from some woman who did really badly in the deputy leader election. I wasn't best pleased. A load of bollox about why I shouldn't vote for Corbyn but nothing about who she thought I should vote for. So, 100%?negative campaigning from a proven loser.
Well Ms Flint, who I vote for is my business so please don't contact me again.
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Labour Press Team @labourpress 5h5 hours ago
.@johnmcdonnellMP announces Labour’s plans to set up national & regional development banks to share prosperity.
.@johnmcdonnellMP announces Labour’s plans to set up national & regional development banks to share prosperity.
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Really? Oh dear, oh dear.Paul Waugh @paulwaugh 36m36 minutes ago
Eagle also hinted at not backing down even if Smith ahead on nominations: "Leadership is about courage, not backroom fixes".
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As I said. Even. Thicker. Than. IDS.RobertSnozers wrote:Competence
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Appearing on Sky News' Murnaghan programme to discuss the possibility of Scotland remaining in the EU while the rest of the United Kingdom leaves, Davis told viewers that "one of our really challenging issues . . . will be the internal border we have with southern Ireland".
Davis goes on: "we are not going to go about creating other internal borders inside the United Kingdom".
Christ.
Good luck Britain. This man will be leading negotiations with the rest of the EU.
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Well at least he's made my Ireland/ English question last night look intelligentRobertSnozers wrote:Competence
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Appearing on Sky News' Murnaghan programme to discuss the possibility of Scotland remaining in the EU while the rest of the United Kingdom leaves, Davis told viewers that "one of our really challenging issues . . . will be the internal border we have with southern Ireland".
Davis goes on: "we are not going to go about creating other internal borders inside the United Kingdom".
Christ.
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Now, now, this is just a resurgence of the kind of cultural imperialism that made Britain Great. We all know that Johnny Foreigner and all his little garlic-eating pals need Britain in order to function and they'll pay anything to worship at the Great White Mother's satined and bejewelled feet.JonnyT1234 wrote:As I said. Even. Thicker. Than. IDS.RobertSnozers wrote:Competence
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Appearing on Sky News' Murnaghan programme to discuss the possibility of Scotland remaining in the EU while the rest of the United Kingdom leaves, Davis told viewers that "one of our really challenging issues . . . will be the internal border we have with southern Ireland".
Davis goes on: "we are not going to go about creating other internal borders inside the United Kingdom".
Christ.
Good luck Britain. This man will be leading negotiations with the rest of the EU.
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Thatcher rises: May is barely in the job for a day or so and already the sell off of Britain's industrial Crown Jewels to foreigners is waived through with nary a whisper:
The chancellor's reaction to SoftBank's takeover of ARM was ludicrous
The chancellor's reaction to SoftBank's takeover of ARM was ludicrous
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For those who don't know, ARM's microprocessor designs are the basis for all iPhone CPUs, and much more besides. One of the most impressive technology companies on the planet and we're just going to sell it off.
The Conservatives. As predictably destructive to British industry as always.
The Conservatives. As predictably destructive to British industry as always.
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Emily Thornberry on the radio earlier. Very impressive.
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"That would actually be 1.5 times the size of the world economy, Lib Dem MEP Catherine Bearder said."ohsocynical wrote:
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Labour leadership election: New party of anti-Jeremy Corbyn MPs with Lib Dems 'a real possibility'
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ohsocynical wrote:Labour leadership election: New party of anti-Jeremy Corbyn MPs with Lib Dems 'a real possibility'
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Have the LibDems ever been known to rule out anything (except pay and limousines, of course)?
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You're not actuially suggesting that he's talking off the top of his head (or out of something lower) without having done the most minimal research into facts, are you?AngryAsWell wrote:"That would actually be 1.5 times the size of the world economy, Lib Dem MEP Catherine Bearder said."ohsocynical wrote:
Oh, you are.
Ok, carry on then.
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Dear Damian Green: A plea to the man Theresa May has put in charge of welfare http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/de ... an-8442278" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Pretty sure she lifted that line from Chris Cook!AngryAsWell wrote:"That would actually be 1.5 times the size of the world economy, Lib Dem MEP Catherine Bearder said."ohsocynical wrote:
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Afternoon all.
After the joy of this morning's year 6 graduation, this afternoon was a more sombre affair.
Yes, I went and picked up my Leyton Orient season ticket...almost certain we're in for another miserable season.
I did then go to the crematorium as it's my mum's birthday and we had some lines put in the book of remembrance for today. Should have taken a hat though - baking hot today.
After the joy of this morning's year 6 graduation, this afternoon was a more sombre affair.
Yes, I went and picked up my Leyton Orient season ticket...almost certain we're in for another miserable season.
I did then go to the crematorium as it's my mum's birthday and we had some lines put in the book of remembrance for today. Should have taken a hat though - baking hot today.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
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Waiting for Benn, Eagle, Austin & Reid to publish a new Limehouse declarationRobertSnozers wrote:I've said it before and will no doubt say it again - I cannot see what the LibDems would gain from courting the authoritarian, pro-war wing of Labour, or even how they could exist in the same party. Just about the only thing they have in common is enthusiasm for free markets. Then again, you could say exactly the same about the Tories, so as you were.PorFavor wrote:ohsocynical wrote:
Have the LibDems ever been known to rule out anything (except pay and limousines, of course)?
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It seems there was reason for people to be doubtful.
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#Breaking Warnings from the Information Commissioner force Labour HQ to ban Labour Plotters accessing members' data
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#Breaking Warnings from the Information Commissioner force Labour HQ to ban Labour Plotters accessing members' data
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Competence Item No. 673!
From Politics Home and being reported elsewhere.....
There was a hustings at lunchtime in which all three Labour Party leadership candidates pitched their thing to MPs and peers.
There is to be a ballot among them, and the result will be announced at 6pm on Wednesday evening. The expectation is that whoever has the lowest number of votes, Smith or Eagle, will drop out. Corbyn is, as we know, already on the ballot paper.
MPs are worried that fielding more than one candidate against Corbyn will split the anti-Corbyn vote. Unfortunately, Smith says he'll drop out if he gets the fewest votes, but Eagle, er, hasn't.
So one hour after the registration of the £25 members (who may already be fully paid-up members) closes, we'll know who is fighting Corbyn.
There might be a whole bunch of people encouraged to shell out £25 for Eagle or Smith who won't get to vote for their chosen candidate.
Omnishamblesclusterfuckwittery of the highest order.
Meanwhile, the Information Commissioner is looking at complaints that Saving Labour have breached the Data Protection Act.
Anyone got any popcorn?
From Politics Home and being reported elsewhere.....
There was a hustings at lunchtime in which all three Labour Party leadership candidates pitched their thing to MPs and peers.
There is to be a ballot among them, and the result will be announced at 6pm on Wednesday evening. The expectation is that whoever has the lowest number of votes, Smith or Eagle, will drop out. Corbyn is, as we know, already on the ballot paper.
MPs are worried that fielding more than one candidate against Corbyn will split the anti-Corbyn vote. Unfortunately, Smith says he'll drop out if he gets the fewest votes, but Eagle, er, hasn't.
So one hour after the registration of the £25 members (who may already be fully paid-up members) closes, we'll know who is fighting Corbyn.
There might be a whole bunch of people encouraged to shell out £25 for Eagle or Smith who won't get to vote for their chosen candidate.
Omnishamblesclusterfuckwittery of the highest order.
Meanwhile, the Information Commissioner is looking at complaints that Saving Labour have breached the Data Protection Act.
Anyone got any popcorn?
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RobertSnozers wrote:I've said it before and will no doubt say it again - I cannot see what the LibDems would gain from courting the authoritarian, pro-war wing of Labour, or even how they could exist in the same party. Just about the only thing they have in common is enthusiasm for free markets. Then again, you could say exactly the same about the Tories, so as you were.PorFavor wrote:ohsocynical wrote:
Have the LibDems ever been known to rule out anything (except pay and limousines, of course)?
The Libbing Dead are, as Nellie Boswell would opine, TARTS!
They'd get into bed with anyone who offered them a ministerial motor. Oops! They already did......
As you say, Robert, it's as you were.
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Surrealohsocynical wrote:That wouldn't have done you any good here on Sunday.HindleA wrote:Unless a hot air balloon happened to come directly above we were discrete.
Mr Ohso was gazing out of the window and couldn't believe his eyes when a Virgin hot air balloon complete with a full basket of corporate sightseers, made an emergency landing in the school field just over the back of us...A few yards less and he'd have been on our roof.....
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Seeing tweets that labour supporter site crashing -this link worked for me,if slow to load (though not planning on voting, was just looking for verification of tweets) https://donate.labour.org.uk/leadership/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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(my bold)RogerOThornhill wrote:Afternoon all.
After the joy of this morning's year 6 graduation, this afternoon was a more sombre affair.
Yes, I went and picked up my Leyton Orient season ticket...almost certain we're in for another miserable season.
I did then go to the crematorium as it's my mum's birthday and we had some lines put in the book of remembrance for today. Should have taken a hat though - baking hot today.
Me too! I'd sunscreen, water, light clothing cover but no sunglasses or hat.
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Someone has tweeted that Guido Fawkes has focused on Owen Smith more than Eagle. He's tweeted nearly four times as much about Smith.
Maybe right wingers [real right wingers not the right of the Labour party] see Smith as more of a threat than Corbyn or Eagle.
Maybe right wingers [real right wingers not the right of the Labour party] see Smith as more of a threat than Corbyn or Eagle.
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Not loading for me, tried 3 browsers - everything else working fine though.thatchersorphan wrote:Seeing tweets that labour supporter site crashing -this link worked for me,if slow to load (though not planning on voting, was just looking for verification of tweets) https://donate.labour.org.uk/leadership/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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OK now, but I'm being told I am now in a queue.
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Fwiw, Labour have been (or were) in breach of the DPA for donkey's. They've never, as far as I am aware, indicated for what purpose they will use your email address if you ever register it with them or input it on their website. This was a problem back at the last leadership election and probably extends much further back than that.
Competence.
Competence.
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You'd think that the party that drafted the DPA would know what it says, wouldn't you. I mean, what they're breaking here is the fricking fundamental basic premise of the act.
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Hang on, this would be the 1998 Data Protection Act, wouldn't it? Brought in by that Blair Bloke.JonnyT1234 wrote:Fwiw, Labour have been (or were) in breach of the DPA for donkey's. They've never, as far as I am aware, indicated for what purpose they will use your email address if you ever register it with them or input it on their website. This was a problem back at the last leadership election and probably extends much further back than that.
Competence.
Shouldn't they at least have read it.
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Probably did but decided it was worth a punt....How many people have they managed to reach. On Facebook quite a few complaining about being contacted.tinybgoat wrote:Hang on, this would be the 1998 Data Protection Act, wouldn't it? Brought in by that Blair Bloke.JonnyT1234 wrote:Fwiw, Labour have been (or were) in breach of the DPA for donkey's. They've never, as far as I am aware, indicated for what purpose they will use your email address if you ever register it with them or input it on their website. This was a problem back at the last leadership election and probably extends much further back than that.
Competence.
Shouldn't they at least have read it.
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Well, get to the back of it, entryist!TobyLatimer wrote:OK now, but I'm being told I am now in a queue.
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You're going to conform to the English stereotype, whether you like it or not!TobyLatimer wrote:OK now, but I'm being told I am now in a queue.
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Michael Taylor @Michael_Taylor_ 3h3 hours ago
'I'm normal' = not LGBT like Eagle
'I have children' = #OwenSmith becomes #Labour's #AndreaLeadsom
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I've seen someone else in our local party had this problem. She asked CLP officials what to do. I think they managed to help her.RobertSnozers wrote:I think Labour HQ is a bit snowed under. Got a letter today to tell me my membership is in arrears, despite the fact that I sent my renewal in a couple of weeks ago. Tried to phone. Needless to say I didn't get anywhere near speaking to a person.
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To be fair, I think the people who are getting hot under the collar about Smith saying he's "normal" are being a bit silly.
One of the things about social media that drives me bananas is the way some people (yes, Ms.J.Phillips, I'm looking at you) seem to look for things to get outraged about.
I could spend all day looking at Britain First Tweets and get outraged. Life's a bit short for that.
I don't think Smith presenting himself as Mr.Normal is any worse than Eagle presenting herself as dead northern.
They're both a bit ordinary, really. As are most people. Except me - but then, I'm the Queen.
One of the things about social media that drives me bananas is the way some people (yes, Ms.J.Phillips, I'm looking at you) seem to look for things to get outraged about.
I could spend all day looking at Britain First Tweets and get outraged. Life's a bit short for that.
I don't think Smith presenting himself as Mr.Normal is any worse than Eagle presenting herself as dead northern.
They're both a bit ordinary, really. As are most people. Except me - but then, I'm the Queen.
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I hope you're right.ephemerid wrote:To be fair, I think the people who are getting hot under the collar about Smith saying he's "normal" are being a bit silly.
One of the things about social media that drives me bananas is the way some people (yes, Ms.J.Phillips, I'm looking at you) seem to look for things to get outraged about.
I could spend all day looking at Britain First Tweets and get outraged. Life's a bit short for that.
I don't think Smith presenting himself as Mr.Normal is any worse than Eagle presenting herself as dead northern.
They're both a bit ordinary, really. As are most people. Except me - but then, I'm the Queen.
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