I'd assumed it was basically an "instruction" to the MP.yahyah wrote:What actually is the function of the nominations at this stage of the procedure ?
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Ah, yes, I had forgotten about the politics of OOo. The LibreOffice crowd clearly understand better that users are not all geeks, if the two websites are anything to go bytinybgoat wrote:Or may possibly be better with LibreOffice,JonnyT1234 wrote:I'm assuming you're on a Windows laptop: if you don't mind using Open Source Software, try OpenOffice (http://www.openoffice.org/).yahyah wrote:My CLP voted for Corbyn too.
Can't read the attached documents to find out more, from the CLP email I got this morning, as I don't have Office with my new laptop.
It's imperfect but generally fine for opening simple Office documents, etc.
Edit: also free, obviously, otherwise you may as well pay for Office.
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So no point in doing it in a non-Labour seat ?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I'd assumed it was basically an "instruction" to the MP.yahyah wrote:What actually is the function of the nominations at this stage of the procedure ?
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650 constituenciesyahyah wrote:So no point in doing it in a non-Labour seat ?PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I'd assumed it was basically an "instruction" to the MP.yahyah wrote:What actually is the function of the nominations at this stage of the procedure ?
It's being done in non-Labour seats
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Certainly, a nice cream cake with strawberries and blueberries will sufficeyahyah wrote:TobyLatimer wrote:If you need a good legal brief setting out your case yahyah , I will check my diary to see if I can squeeze you in.
I'll have my people talk to your people.
Will you take payment in homemade cakes Toby ?
Or a Mr Kipling Manor House served up with a slice of Irish Cheddar, would be fine.
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'the lions in their dens tremble at his approach'PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I'd assumed it was basically an "instruction" to the MP.yahyah wrote:What actually is the function of the nominations at this stage of the procedure ?
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Re CLP meetings: The only meetings allowed are nomination meetings & new members can't vote or nominate
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Strictly speaking, none - they're a relic of the days when such meetings actually did decide who the CLP was backing.yahyah wrote:What actually is the function of the nominations at this stage of the procedure ?
(the last time this happened was IIRC 1983, though even then some local parties held all member ballots)
They are still arguably of interest in their own right, though.
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Most definitely and not least because it could be seen as positive that so many CLPs are engaged.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Strictly speaking, none - they're a relic of the days when such meetings actually did decide who the CLP was backing.yahyah wrote:What actually is the function of the nominations at this stage of the procedure ?
(the last time this happened was IIRC 1983, though even then some local parties held all member ballots)
They are still arguably of interest in their own right, though.
That CLPNom Twitter a/c I mentioned does split the nominations into seat categories - safe, defence, target & incontestable. The last tweet with this was 12/08 so the data is out of date hence I'll not link to it but worth keeping an eye out?
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I had posted this on the Corbyn thread. I don't have a clue whether it gels with other figures.Éoin @LabourEoin 6h6 hours ago Rome, Lazio
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Has there been MSM coverage of last night's Stoke Central Labour meeting contradicting Phil BC's interesting account of last night's Stoke Central meeting? I've not seen any. Does Stoke Central want an award for not harassing Labour party members who disagree with each other? It's not for nothing you've gone out of your way to report how 'generally speaking' anyone not supporting Jeremy Corbyn isn't getting heckled, told to go join Tories, booed or otherwise had a rough time for supporting Smith. I left the last Labour meeting I attended in tears.AnatolyKasparov wrote:The blogger Phil BC has an interesting account of last night's Stoke Central meeting.
From that and reports from elsewhere I have seen, it seems that when even Smith supporters are a small minority they are treated respectfully by the dissenting majority. Generally no booing, no heckling, no demands to "go and join the Tories".
Just mentioning this because you would never guess that from much of the MSM coverage of Labour currently
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Sorry to hear that, it happens on occasion (and did long before Corbyn)citizenJA wrote:Has there been MSM coverage of last night's Stoke Central Labour meeting contradicting Phil BC's interesting account of last night's Stoke Central meeting? I've not seen any. Does Stoke Central want an award for not harassing Labour party members who disagree with each other? It's not for nothing you've gone out of your way to report how 'generally speaking' anyone not supporting Jeremy Corbyn isn't getting heckled, told to go join Tories, booed or otherwise had a rough time for supporting Smith. I left the last Labour meeting I attended in tears.AnatolyKasparov wrote:The blogger Phil BC has an interesting account of last night's Stoke Central meeting.
From that and reports from elsewhere I have seen, it seems that when even Smith supporters are a small minority they are treated respectfully by the dissenting majority. Generally no booing, no heckling, no demands to "go and join the Tories".
Just mentioning this because you would never guess that from much of the MSM coverage of Labour currently
But it doesn't alter the fact the lurid way the media like to report on Labour often bears little relationship to actual reality.
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And that a lot of full members have been denied a chance to meet and select their choice because their local CLPs have been using abusive and unruly behaviour as reported in the media as an excuse to not hold meetings.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Sorry to hear that, it happens on occasion (and did long before Corbyn)citizenJA wrote:Has there been MSM coverage of last night's Stoke Central Labour meeting contradicting Phil BC's interesting account of last night's Stoke Central meeting? I've not seen any. Does Stoke Central want an award for not harassing Labour party members who disagree with each other? It's not for nothing you've gone out of your way to report how 'generally speaking' anyone not supporting Jeremy Corbyn isn't getting heckled, told to go join Tories, booed or otherwise had a rough time for supporting Smith. I left the last Labour meeting I attended in tears.AnatolyKasparov wrote:The blogger Phil BC has an interesting account of last night's Stoke Central meeting.
From that and reports from elsewhere I have seen, it seems that when even Smith supporters are a small minority they are treated respectfully by the dissenting majority. Generally no booing, no heckling, no demands to "go and join the Tories".
Just mentioning this because you would never guess that from much of the MSM coverage of Labour currently
But it doesn't alter the fact the lurid way the media like to report on Labour often bears little relationship to actual reality.
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Cannot believe Labour have agreed to this too (in 2015 manifesto) we know JC wants to change this as the numbers don't add up, but are we actually opposing this as only two weeks to go as many in Bracknell will become homeless including those on ESA, or will need additional help with food, clothing etc
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Cannot believe Labour have agreed to this too (in 2015 manifesto) we know JC wants to change this as the numbers don't add up, but are we actually opposing this as only two weeks to go as many in Bracknell will become homeless including those on ESA, or will need additional help with food, clothing etc
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Yes, sorry to hear that JA. Do you feel you want to say more about what happened ?
Or maybe you did and I missed it ?
Or maybe you did and I missed it ?
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Have just posted my favourite bara brith recipe on the Recipe thread in the Pub section as you are a fan of baked goods.
It's in English measures, not US cups but there is a version of the same recipe in cups on the net.
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Have just posted my favourite bara brith recipe on the Recipe thread in the Pub section as you are a fan of baked goods.
It's in English measures, not US cups but there is a version of the same recipe in cups on the net.
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A general comment on other contributions for a change.
Labour party meetings should be and almost always are conducted in a comradely manner but that cannot be a guarantee that no-one will be upset. Real democracy does not work like that.
What is unacceptable is personal attacks and attempts to intimidate.
Labour party meetings should be and almost always are conducted in a comradely manner but that cannot be a guarantee that no-one will be upset. Real democracy does not work like that.
What is unacceptable is personal attacks and attempts to intimidate.
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The explosives are mostly pretty stable over time and, counter-intuitive though it may be, the safest way to make an old bomb safe is to blow it up.ohsocynical wrote:You wouldn't think these WW2 bombs would still be active after all this time.The moment a bomb disposal unit detonate mortar shell on a Welsh beach
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Apparently old chemical weapons are the worst to deal with. There's a documentary on BBC iPlayer about Porton Down that covers the incredibly careful way they have to be disposed of. The Belgian chemical weapons disposal unit is still acquiring old World War 1 gas shells, often found by farmers when ploughing, at a faster rate than it can dispose of them.
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What's taken them so long ?
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Hello,
I've had a great afternoon on the bowling green.
Rather hot at times but not complaining.
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Inspired by post above, am considering changing name to tinygrass
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tinyclanger2 wrote:Inspired by post above, am considering changing name to tinygrass
Nooo!!!!!
You'd have to do dreaming instead of seething.
And you seethe so well.......
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I notice the BBC Breakfast team found Bradley Wiggins' pathetic tongue-pulling during the national anthem yesterday as a sign that he is a spirited wonderchild.
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Rochdale’s nominally Labour MP Simon Danczuk has of late faced censure over his “sexting” of a 17-year-old girl, been ordered to pay back thousands of pounds in over-claimed expenses, had an historic claim of rape made against him, faced rumours as to what nearly got him thrown out of a town centre pub one weekend, and then seen himself splashed all over the papers for a brief affair with another young woman.
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Rochdale’s nominally Labour MP Simon Danczuk has of late faced censure over his “sexting” of a 17-year-old girl, been ordered to pay back thousands of pounds in over-claimed expenses, had an historic claim of rape made against him, faced rumours as to what nearly got him thrown out of a town centre pub one weekend, and then seen himself splashed all over the papers for a brief affair with another young woman.
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His riposte to Piers Moron was good, tbf.tinyclanger2 wrote:I notice the BBC Breakfast team found Bradley Wiggins' pathetic tongue-pulling during the national anthem yesterday as a sign that he is a spirited wonderchild.
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It's the "Wiggins (sticking tongue out) = spirited wonderchild Corbyn (not singing) = evil trot" kind of thing
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Good point. tinyclanger it is.ephemerid wrote:tinyclanger2 wrote:Inspired by post above, am considering changing name to tinygrass
Nooo!!!!!
You'd have to do dreaming instead of seething.
And you seethe so well.......
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Can you expand, please? Was it some sort of protest? In which case, why did he accept a Sir-dom?tinyclanger2 wrote:I notice the BBC Breakfast team found Bradley Wiggins' pathetic tongue-pulling during the national anthem yesterday as a sign that he is a spirited wonderchild.
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He just stuck his tongue out as far as I know. Am not bothered about the incident itself in the slightest (though I found it a little embarrassing, given our collective cultural kudos just now). It was the BBC's uneven-handedness about it (versus Corbyn not singing it at some point if I recall correctly), that irked.PorFavor wrote:Can you expand, please? Was it some sort of protest? In which case, why did he accept a Sir-dom?tinyclanger2 wrote:I notice the BBC Breakfast team found Bradley Wiggins' pathetic tongue-pulling during the national anthem yesterday as a sign that he is a spirited wonderchild.
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No reflection on posts....I just thought it was funny but since I can't drink rather cruel too ..
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IIRC he said he accepted his knighthood to please his gran, who mainly brought him up. Fair enough imo.PorFavor wrote:Can you expand, please? Was it some sort of protest? In which case, why did he accept a Sir-dom?tinyclanger2 wrote:I notice the BBC Breakfast team found Bradley Wiggins' pathetic tongue-pulling during the national anthem yesterday as a sign that he is a spirited wonderchild.
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They should have a couple of glasses of wine and chill out.Britain First's leaders are to appear in front of the high court to fight an injunction that would ban them from entering every mosque in England and Wales and would also prohibit them from visiting Luton without permission.
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Ours was last night and apparently voted Corbyn. Our MP is supporting Smith - I'd emailed to thank her for a very long email outlining exactly why she'd made that choice.citizenJA wrote:Has there been MSM coverage of last night's Stoke Central Labour meeting contradicting Phil BC's interesting account of last night's Stoke Central meeting? I've not seen any. Does Stoke Central want an award for not harassing Labour party members who disagree with each other? It's not for nothing you've gone out of your way to report how 'generally speaking' anyone not supporting Jeremy Corbyn isn't getting heckled, told to go join Tories, booed or otherwise had a rough time for supporting Smith. I left the last Labour meeting I attended in tears.AnatolyKasparov wrote:The blogger Phil BC has an interesting account of last night's Stoke Central meeting.
From that and reports from elsewhere I have seen, it seems that when even Smith supporters are a small minority they are treated respectfully by the dissenting majority. Generally no booing, no heckling, no demands to "go and join the Tories".
Just mentioning this because you would never guess that from much of the MSM coverage of Labour currently
I also had an email just before the meeting to ask me to attend ( the implication was that Smith supporters were reluctant attendees )
I didn't go in the end. I really couldn't face it. I've had enough 'strong' language on local social media without risking the face to face kind. The 'online people' were attending and were pushing the event as 'deciding how we're all going to vote'.
It's not. The nomination meetings are not mandatory and really don't tell us anything other than that the people who show up are more likely to be Corbyn supporters.
I'm voting for Smith. The Labour party members I know socially, I'll include relatives in that, are all confirmed Smith voters.
I don't know how this is going to go. My feeling is that Corbyn will win. If he does, my resignation letter will go in. Not because of Corbyn himself but because of my experience of his more vocal supporters. I've been a Labour voter since Thatcher - I've dug into my pocket for each election campaign ( every week for Ed Milliband ) but I think I've reached the end . I'm shocked at how blummen' rude other Labour members have been and I'm tired of it.
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So you're going to terminate your membership because of a few idiots on social media?
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gilsey wrote:IIRC he said he accepted his knighthood to please his gran, who mainly brought him up. Fair enough imo.PorFavor wrote:Can you expand, please? Was it some sort of protest? In which case, why did he accept a Sir-dom?tinyclanger2 wrote:I notice the BBC Breakfast team found Bradley Wiggins' pathetic tongue-pulling during the national anthem yesterday as a sign that he is a spirited wonderchild.
I think my mother would have been pleased if I'd either become, or married, a multi-millionaire regardless of who had been trampled underfoot en route to multi-millionairedom.
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Re Bradley Wiggins
Just euphoria and release of tension, I think.
But we all know how these moments get malign misinterpretations from our beloved media.
Just euphoria and release of tension, I think.
But we all know how these moments get malign misinterpretations from our beloved media.
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No, he was just over excited. He noticed the camera zoom in on him and pulled a face. The rest of the team were in fits.PorFavor wrote:Can you expand, please? Was it some sort of protest? In which case, why did he accept a Sir-dom?tinyclanger2 wrote:I notice the BBC Breakfast team found Bradley Wiggins' pathetic tongue-pulling during the national anthem yesterday as a sign that he is a spirited wonderchild.
It was actually quite funny.
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Voteshare for each candidate by European Parliament constituency.
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To clarify.
My problem is not with Wiggins it is with the BBC.
My problem is not with Wiggins it is with the BBC.
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Lost Soul wrote:Ours was last night and apparently voted Corbyn. Our MP is supporting Smith - I'd emailed to thank her for a very long email outlining exactly why she'd made that choice.citizenJA wrote:Has there been MSM coverage of last night's Stoke Central Labour meeting contradicting Phil BC's interesting account of last night's Stoke Central meeting? I've not seen any. Does Stoke Central want an award for not harassing Labour party members who disagree with each other? It's not for nothing you've gone out of your way to report how 'generally speaking' anyone not supporting Jeremy Corbyn isn't getting heckled, told to go join Tories, booed or otherwise had a rough time for supporting Smith. I left the last Labour meeting I attended in tears.AnatolyKasparov wrote:The blogger Phil BC has an interesting account of last night's Stoke Central meeting.
From that and reports from elsewhere I have seen, it seems that when even Smith supporters are a small minority they are treated respectfully by the dissenting majority. Generally no booing, no heckling, no demands to "go and join the Tories".
Just mentioning this because you would never guess that from much of the MSM coverage of Labour currently
I also had an email just before the meeting to ask me to attend ( the implication was that Smith supporters were reluctant attendees )
I didn't go in the end. I really couldn't face it. I've had enough 'strong' language on local social media without risking the face to face kind. The 'online people' were attending and were pushing the event as 'deciding how we're all going to vote'.
It's not. The nomination meetings are not mandatory and really don't tell us anything other than that the people who show up are more likely to be Corbyn supporters.
I'm voting for Smith. The Labour party members I know socially, I'll include relatives in that, are all confirmed Smith voters.
I don't know how this is going to go. My feeling is that Corbyn will win. If he does, my resignation letter will go in. Not because of Corbyn himself but because of my experience of his more vocal supporters. I've been a Labour voter since Thatcher - I've dug into my pocket for each election campaign ( every week for Ed Milliband ) but I think I've reached the end . I'm shocked at how blummen' rude other Labour members have been and I'm tired of it.
Sticks and stones breaking no bones are a thought-possibility, dear Lost Soul,I didn't go in the end. I really couldn't face it. I've had enough 'strong' language on local social media without risking the face to face kind.
for , words are just ... words
Being myself a formerly six-footer ( now shrunk with age to about 5'9 ! ) but still quite imposing, I'd have no prob meeting a few noisy Trots.
Sociologically and even journalistically speaking, I'd have prefered you to have gone to the meeting, just to really know if your worst fears actually happened !
PS A few idiots being 'blumming rude' does not negate any movement or 'idea shared ' .
We are surrounded by idiots .
They are the electorate FFS !
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anyone just watch Nadal's incredible (but failed) attempts to avoid elimination?
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