Friday 26th August 2016

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 12:38 pm

JonnyT1234 wrote:Stopping me from getting derailed further, fortunately the Mirror is to the rescue again with some extremely important #News:

Make William our next King say more than half of Brits - but how many want Charles?
He isn't wearing a dress.

Shows how many Brits understand the Act of Succession!

I dislike Charles and William intensely.......Harry has a bit more personality but who knows really with all the hagiographical coverage of him....I think it would be just easier to get rid when Brenda pops her clogs

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 12:45 pm

Polls have said that for a while now, as you said it is meaningless because its not how the damned thing works!

Though one does hear from time to time that many palace "insiders" are worried about Charles becoming king, and even that his mum agrees.......

Maybe she is hanging on until her last breath in the hope she may yet outlive him and thus solve the "problem"?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 12:54 pm

JonnyT1234 wrote:Stopping me from getting derailed further, fortunately the Mirror is to the rescue again with some extremely important #News:

Make William our next King say more than half of Brits - but how many want Charles?
He isn't wearing a dress.

In that case, I don't want him to be King.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 12:58 pm

Best article yet from the Guardian on the Labour leadership contest:

UB40, Stiff Little Fingers and Yes: the bands that split in half

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 1:01 pm

PorFavor wrote:Infer for imply. And vice versa.

'Have noticed that its' not a dis-like of particulate words per say, more frequently when they get used ingramatically. just saying; their seams to be a lot of pedantists on this sight.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 1:09 pm

tinybgoat wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Infer for imply. And vice versa.
'Have noticed that its' not a dis-like of particulate words per say, more frequently when they get used ingramatically. just saying; their seams to be a lot of pedantists on this sight.

Moderate when used in place of trait... Er. Erm. Er...

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 1:24 pm

Ronald Reagan memorabilia set for Christie's auction

How much will Steve Bell bid for the hair?

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 1:29 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:Shows how many Brits understand the Act of Succession!

I dislike Charles and William intensely.......Harry has a bit more personality but who knows really with all the hagiographical coverage of him....I think it would be just easier to get rid when Brenda pops her clogs

There's an easy way out of this situation that doesn't involve Charles, well, dying. He becomes a Catholic. Problem solved.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 1:32 pm

JonnyT1234 wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:Shows how many Brits understand the Act of Succession!

I dislike Charles and William intensely.......Harry has a bit more personality but who knows really with all the hagiographical coverage of him....I think it would be just easier to get rid when Brenda pops her clogs
There's an easy way out of this situation that doesn't involve Charles, well, dying. He becomes a Catholic. Problem solved.

Wasn't this provision removed in the latest revision?

Can't remember.....

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 1:34 pm

Probably. I've forgotten owing to total lack of interest.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 1:35 pm

... That probably makes me a 'moderate' doesn't it.

Temulkar · Post by **Temulkar** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 1:49 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
JonnyT1234 wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:Shows how many Brits understand the Act of Succession!

I dislike Charles and William intensely.......Harry has a bit more personality but who knows really with all the hagiographical coverage of him....I think it would be just easier to get rid when Brenda pops her clogs
There's an easy way out of this situation that doesn't involve Charles, well, dying. He becomes a Catholic. Problem solved.

Wasn't this provision removed in the latest revision?

Can't remember.....

I don't think it has been, the church would need to be disestablished in England first

As an aside, my great-grandfather was an antidisestblishmentarian activist a century ago - He was so pleased when my mother left methodism and joined the CofE -much to the disgust of my godless trotskyite rabble rousing father - hey I'm a Green I can say the unspeakable words

I believe Charles wants to be the Defender of 'all faith' though - whatever that's supposed to mean.

Temulkar · Post by **Temulkar** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 1:51 pm

To explain the above post - the church in wales was disestablished in 1914 - hencce the snippet of family history.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 1:55 pm

This will give tinyclanger the warm and fuzzies:

Brexit used to stall extradition on sex charges

Apologies in advance. It is in the Evening Standard.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 2:22 pm

Burkini ban suspended [edit: in a test case, in one town] by France's highest court.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/a ... -test-case" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 2:56 pm

General Secretary vs Shadow Chancellor

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/po ... ver-rigged" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Would have been big news in a different era. Nowadays, people just look on at the general disaster and move on.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 3:12 pm

Drop in new ISAs amid criticism of help-to-buy version

Responsible savers are being thoroughly kicked in the nuts by the continued ineptitude of this government. People turning to gambling (aka stocks and shares versions) because of dismal interest rates.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 3:42 pm

Silly arse

http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/ ... ref=twtrec" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 3:44 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:General Secretary vs Shadow Chancellor

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/po ... ver-rigged" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Would have been big news in a different era. Nowadays, people just look on at the general disaster and move on.

PoliticsHome publishing via the Outrage! Slapdown! Furious! Tabloid word generator. The General secretary is like a fish caught in a net. Still fighting and wriggling, not realising that how it finishes for him has long been decided out of his control.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 3:55 pm

#News: He's still not wearing a dress.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 3:58 pm

JonnyT1234 wrote:#News: He's still not wearing a dress.

Well, he had his chance to change (in both senses of the word). He's blown it.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 4:03 pm

London firms losing faith in quick-fix access to EU after Brexit - Reuters
https://apple.news/AdRcqAZpDSha3G7y2v8iKpQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson also said in July he expected financial firms in the country to retain rights to sell within the EU, given the desire of European firms to have reciprocal access to London.
But many in the City of London, Europe's biggest financial centre, are having second thoughts about relying on such an equivalency fix as it will be Brussels not Britain that decides whether the rules are the same.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 4:50 pm

This is quite superb on rail travel

http://www.citymetric.com/transport/eve ... -wrong-704" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Straightforward and factual.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 5:19 pm

I'm sure there must be a reason for Hugo to randomly drop an article here that was written about 18 months ago which, from my reading, says that rail nationalisation wouldn't actually save us very much...oh...got it...

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 5:22 pm

Well.

http://press.labour.org.uk/post/1495133 ... bour-party

Iain McNicol, Labour’s General Secretary, said:

“I am happy to announce we have agreed that OCS Group, the existing provider of security services at ACC Liverpool, will deliver security for the Labour Party Conference. We look forward to working together on what will be an excellent event.”

Right wing frothers groan in disappointment...

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 5:32 pm

Kevin Costner's not very happy either.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 5:40 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:I'm sure there must be a reason for Hugo to randomly drop an article here that was written about 18 months ago which, from my reading, says that rail nationalisation wouldn't actually save us very much...oh...got it...

We were arguing about it yesterday, I'd only just read it, and think it is great.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 5:45 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:We were arguing about it yesterday.

Kirk won due to his superior Tribble patch.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 6:16 pm

Now then I'm sure we've been here before, BUT....

..sulfur is an entirely reasonable way to spell that element.

It should never have had a ph in the first place. It's a Latin derived word and the ph was only added as a Victorian affectation (aphphectation?)

Aluminum on the other hand....

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 6:18 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:Silly arse

http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/ ... ref=twtrec" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Corbyn] said: “I hate the elitism [that says] only the wealthy can go to ballet, only the wealthy can go to opera, only the wealthy can
go to Glyndebourne, only the wealthy can enjoy what’s termed high-brow music. I don’t consider myself high-brow or wealthy, but
I still enjoy some aspects of classical music. I want everybody to have that attitude and that same experience.”

An SNP spokesperson said: "People listening to Jeremy Corbyn will be very surprised to hear him declaring that his six-figure
salary does not make him wealthy, another example of how out of touch Labour is with Scottish voters."

(my emphasis)

Rather catty, SNP spokesperson, and not a nice rendering of Corbyn's meaning. I don't imagine the SNP is happy with the Labour
leader just now. Corbyn has recently said something to the effect that the SNP tries to be socialist and fails. I think it made them
angry and that helps explain the mean comment about Corbyn's income.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 6:21 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Now then I'm sure we've been here before, BUT....

..sulfur is an entirely reasonable way to spell that element.

It should never have had a ph in the first place. It's a Latin derived word and the ph was only added as a Victorian affectation (aphphectation?)

Aluminum on the other hand....

Didn't we have this debate a while ago?

I try to avoid using the 'f' to be honest.......

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 6:27 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Now then I'm sure we've been here before, BUT....

..sulfur is an entirely reasonable way to spell that element.

It should never have had a ph in the first place. It's a Latin derived word and the ph was only added as a Victorian affectation (aphphectation?)

Aluminum on the other hand....

Didn't we have this debate a while ago?

I try to avoid using the 'f' to be honest.......

Fair enough but I'm a chemist and the Royal Society of Chemistry says it should have an f. So there

55DegreesNorth · Post by **55DegreesNorth** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 6:28 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:Silly arse

http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/ ... ref=twtrec" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Assuming the quote is accurate, (a big assumption nowadays), I agree. It's horrific to find out how little so many people earn - he's in the top 1% in the world, and I'm sure will be in the top 10% in the uk (someone with more time and less beer can check that). Inequality really ought to figure more highly in our political discourse, but with the politicians and the media all up there in the top few percent, there's precious chance of that.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 6:33 pm

I can't find a single Tweet challenging the "not wealthy" quote.

It seems he is indeed a silly arse!

55DegreesNorth · Post by **55DegreesNorth** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 6:41 pm

Either I've overdone the beer, or something is borked. There's a gorilla at the bottom of every post.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 6:43 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Now then I'm sure we've been here before, BUT....

..sulfur is an entirely reasonable way to spell that element.

It should never have had a ph in the first place. It's a Latin derived word and the ph was only added as a Victorian affectation (aphphectation?)

Aluminum on the other hand....

Didn't we have this debate a while ago?

I try to avoid using the 'f' to be honest.......
Fair enough but I'm a chemist and the Royal Society of Chemistry says it should have an f. So there

so am I, and the RSC can go and stick it up their stuck-up behinds!

.....mind you IUPAC do as well so I perhaps should take notice of them

Not a big fan of the RSC as you may tell.....

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 6:46 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I can't find a single Tweet challenging the "not wealthy" quote.

It seems he is indeed a silly arse!

It's almost as if he's trying his best to lose but his followers are having none of it - very Life of Brian.

[youtube]Zjz16xjeBAA[/youtube]

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 6:51 pm

55DegreesNorth wrote:Either I've overdone the beer, or something is borked. There's a gorilla at the bottom of every post.

"Gorillas when you're pissed". Great film (or so I've been told).

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 6:53 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Now then I'm sure we've been here before, BUT....

..sulfur is an entirely reasonable way to spell that element.

It should never have had a ph in the first place. It's a Latin derived word and the ph was only added as a Victorian affectation (aphphectation?)

Aluminum on the other hand....

Didn't we have this debate a while ago?

It's feasible . . . .

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 6:56 pm

PorFavor wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Now then I'm sure we've been here before, BUT....

..sulfur is an entirely reasonable way to spell that element.

It should never have had a ph in the first place. It's a Latin derived word and the ph was only added as a Victorian affectation (aphphectation?)

Aluminum on the other hand....

Didn't we have this debate a while ago?

It's feasible . . . .

although we normally are soooooo good at avoiding repetition of past arguments

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 7:10 pm

Pheasible I believe.

PS. Biochemist so I know nothing about chemistry. Or biology.

JonnyT1234 · Post by **JonnyT1234** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 7:17 pm

PorFavor wrote:
55DegreesNorth wrote:Either I've overdone the beer, or something is borked. There's a gorilla at the bottom of every post.

"Gorillas when you're pissed". Great film (or so I've been told).

Have I melted across the whole forum?

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 8:32 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
Didn't we have this debate a while ago?

It's feasible . . . .

although we normally are soooooo good at avoiding repetition of past arguments

Yes, we did have that debate some time ago, and I'm afraid that I started it.
Speaking as an ex-chemist, I thought at the time that it was an Americanism like "center" which had crept into English.
Looking at the Etymology of the word it seems that Sulphur was the preferred option from the 14th Century till the early 20th Century, when the preferred American spelling was adopted by IUPAC.
For me, IUPAC can sod off. I'm sticking with the old Latin form

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 8:38 pm

danesclose wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
PorFavor wrote: It's feasible . . . .

although we normally are soooooo good at avoiding repetition of past arguments
Yes, we did have that debate some time ago, and I'm afraid that I started it.
Speaking as an ex-chemist, I thought at the time that it was an Americanism like "center" which had crept into English.
Looking at the Etymology of the word it seems that Sulphur was the preferred option from the 14th Century till the early 20th Century, when the preferred American spelling was adopted by IUPAC.
For me, IUPAC can sod off. I'm sticking with the old Latin form

I am an organic chemist though so try to avoid anything with S in.....far too smelly

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 9:03 pm

Spelling schmelling.

I pine for the days when there were 124* ways to spell "their"

*estimate

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 9:16 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... -committee" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
UN committee says politicians should share blame for surge in racist crimes during and after EU referendum campaign

what a state we're in

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 9:32 pm

Just the one local council by-election this week, but making history in a way:

Fife - Labour gain, officially from an Independent but in reality from the last elected Communist in Britain. This division split 1Lab/1Nat/1"Comm" in both 2007 and 2012 with the Indy-cum-Communist actually topping the poll on the first occasion - a by-election in 2014 saw Labour romp home with over 60% of the vote as anybody "far left" (whether officially Independent or not) absented themselves. This was a few months before the referendum, however, which of course transformed the political climate north of the border - that was reflected in the result now which saw Labour remain almost static compared with four years ago, still top of the poll but pressed by the SNP who increased by nearly 20 points since then; the swing was about 9% (and about 14% since the previous vacancy) though less than 5% since 2007 - as with previous by-elections here this emphasises that 2012 was a poor result for the SNP locally, as a council administration that had come in for a fair amount of flak lost control. Tories advancing here - as in most Scottish contests recently - but still below 10% in what is fairly fundamentally hostile territory for them. This time round, a Communist stood officially labelled as such - but the "fin de siecle" feeling of this vacancy was driven home when they could manage only 3% of the vote. The fairly cold comfort for them was that still proved enough to beat the Greens.

Five contests to start next month.

Eric_WLothian · Post by **Eric_WLothian** » Fri 26 Aug, 2016 11:09 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote: so am I, and the RSC can go and stick it up their stuck-up behinds! .....mind you IUPAC do as well so I perhaps should take notice of them

Not a big fan of the RSC as you may tell.....

Well, their productions of 'Dr Faustus' and 'Matilda the Musical' are pretty good.

...oh! ...wait ...not that RSC