PS - I hope the link embedded in the tweet works. I'm off to the match in a minute and don't have time to check.I'll vote for debate on #Article50, but not for this Govt's dystopian, alt-right, free market vision. My speech: goo.gl/QOIhFZ
She's good, Chi Onwura.55DegreesNorth wrote:Evening folks,
Here's Chi Onwura explaining why her support for a second reading is anything but 'unconditional', as I think a WUM would put it.PS - I hope the link embedded in the tweet works. I'm off to the match in a minute and don't have time to check.I'll vote for debate on #Article50, but not for this Govt's dystopian, alt-right, free market vision. My speech: goo.gl/QOIhFZ
Cheers.
Tubby Isaacs wrote:MPs in college towns, like Rachel Maskell, don't fancy Lib Dems (maybe with a snappy student fees policy) and Greens coming after them.
Sometimes they do have to circles to square, and that might involve bullshitting. You can't just rebel like Corbyn did so often.yahyah wrote:Yes, if the bill is passed then Article 50 can be triggered. That's more than a debate.
Can't help wondering if some of the language is deliberate obfuscation.
Labour’s Rushanara Ali, MP for Bethnal Green and Bow, says up to 100,000 jobs in the City could be at risk from Brexit. That would affect her constituents. And she says it is not just top City jobs that would go. There are many ordinary jobs dependent on financial services, she says. She says she will vote against the bill.
Navel gazing. And rather betraying that you're voting for the opposite of this.Back in the Commons Chapman says Brexit must work for all communities, especially the most disadvantaged. Labour will do its duty. Quoting FD Roosevelt, she says Labour must be a party of liberal thought, planned action, enlightened international outlook, and one that wants the the greatest good for all citizens. It is not a party just for the 48% who voted to remain, but for everyone, she says.
Bollocks.
David Jones is now addressing the role of parliament. The prime minister has said parliament will have the final say on the deal, he says.
He says the white paper will be published tomorrow. But it is entirely separate from this bill, he says.
And Collins said No.Sam Freedman @Samfr 5m5 minutes ago
Sam Freedman Retweeted Burgess Everett
Looking possible that Trump's education nomination Betsy DeVos could be defeated. Collins is a GOP senator.
Hi Hanny and welcome!Hanny wrote:I am a grandma of eight and am interested,as a remainer, in what is happening re the referendum.I followed yahyah for a long time on AS,mainly re the NHS and SC Act.I know there are some nice people on this board,like Tubby, Willow,citizen.PF and many more.I have been shocked and upset at the bullying,borderline abusive behaviour of Temullkar and followers,towards SH and think it is out of all proportion to anything SH could have said.In fact,if we are talking trolls,it sounds as if there is a very unpleasant stalker out there, ready to jump at anything SH says.I wonder if it occurs to people that this will put off new people signing up.I know people have robust views on forums but this has got very unpleasant and you need to stop it.I cannot believe that it is a teacher acting like this.No doubt I will be moderated and this comment will not see the light of day.
(Ask Refitman)RogerOThornhill wrote:^^^
So which one is this I wonder - Rusty or that dopey female sidekick of his?
A bit too obvious given certain tweets today that I caught sight of...
There are no mods!SpinningHugo wrote:RogerOThornhill wrote:^^^
So which one is this I wonder - Rusty or that dopey female sidekick of his?
A bit too obvious given certain tweets today that I caught sight of...
Nothing to do with me FWIIW, which I assume the mods can tell.
My word it was heresy round here before the GE to consort with the SNPpk1 wrote:Labour MPs voting for the SNP amendment:
Heidi Alexander
Rushanara Ali
Graham allen
Luciana Berger
Ben Bradshaw
Kevin Brennan
Lyn Brown
Chris Bryant
Ann Clywd
Ann Coffey
Neil Coyle
Mary Creagh
Stella Creasey
Stephen Doughty
Jin Dowd
Maria Eagle
Louise Ellman
Paul Farrelly
Mike Gapes
Helen Hayes
Meg Hillier
Peter Kyle
David Lammy
Rachael Maskell
Catherine McKinnell
Madelaine Moon
Ian Murray
Stephen Pound
Jeff Smith
Owen Smith
Jo Stevens
Stephen Timms
Daniel Zeichner
50 SNP
3 Independent
Caroline Lucas
3 SDLP
7 LDs
2 Plaid Cymru
Ken Clarke
Seconded. Sounds awful.pk1 wrote:@yahyah - ouch, that fall sounds nasty. Surely you could find a less painful way of getting out of making dinner though ! Rest up & recover well xx
LOLHanny wrote:I am a grandma of eight and am interested,as a remainer, in what is happening re the referendum.I followed yahyah for a long time on AS,mainly re the NHS and SC Act.I know there are some nice people on this board,like Tubby, Willow,citizen.PF and many more.I have been shocked and upset at the bullying,borderline abusive behaviour of Temullkar and followers,towards SH and think it is out of all proportion to anything SH could have said.In fact,if we are talking trolls,it sounds as if there is a very unpleasant stalker out there, ready to jump at anything SH says.I wonder if it occurs to people that this will put off new people signing up.I know people have robust views on forums but this has got very unpleasant and you need to stop it.I cannot believe that it is a teacher acting like this.No doubt I will be moderated and this comment will not see the light of day.
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Hi Hanny and welcome!Hanny wrote:I am a grandma of eight and am interested,as a remainer, in what is happening re the referendum.I followed yahyah for a long time on AS,mainly re the NHS and SC Act.I know there are some nice people on this board,like Tubby, Willow,citizen.PF and many more.I have been shocked and upset at the bullying,borderline abusive behaviour of Temullkar and followers,towards SH and think it is out of all proportion to anything SH could have said.In fact,if we are talking trolls,it sounds as if there is a very unpleasant stalker out there, ready to jump at anything SH says.I wonder if it occurs to people that this will put off new people signing up.I know people have robust views on forums but this has got very unpleasant and you need to stop it.I cannot believe that it is a teacher acting like this.No doubt I will be moderated and this comment will not see the light of day.
Thanks for this contribution.
It's highly unlikely to be moderated. We don't have moderators here. Just Refitman and me and occasionally others who will respond when asked by other members.
Someone else did message about Temulkar earlier, hence my brief informal request to him. But the consensus here is pretty much to let things go unless they compromise the integrity of the site. You can choose to block other members I believe. Just don't ask me how!
167 voted for the bill. 167 + 47 = 214 meaning 15 abstentionsTubby Isaacs wrote:Masterpiece of party management there. That's 1/5 of the PLP voting against, plus no doubt, a few abstentions.
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Masterpiece of party management there. That's 1/5 of the PLP voting against, plus no doubt, a few abstentions.
Awww big hugs Yahyah hope you heal quickly. Sounds horrid.yahyah wrote:Anyway, I need cheering up.
Tripped on a kerb edge and fell head first today. Twisted my ankle, tore the knee of my new trousers and grazed my knee through the hole. Am confined to the sofa now and in pain, couldn't go coastal walking as we'd planned. Dreaming of a new idol for the grassroots helps take the pain away.
I've been cooking and lost track.SpinningHugo wrote:Tubby Isaacs wrote:Masterpiece of party management there. That's 1/5 of the PLP voting against, plus no doubt, a few abstentions.
Third reading is the big one. 55 or so then?
Could be fewer. Blah blah seen the plan now, it's got some stuff in I agree with, blah.SpinningHugo wrote:Tubby Isaacs wrote:Masterpiece of party management there. That's 1/5 of the PLP voting against, plus no doubt, a few abstentions.
Third reading is the big one. 55 or so then?
