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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Continuing from above. What does Parliament do with a *hite Paper like this?
Get together and put the brakes on. Cobble together a majority for the Norway option and sod the 'will of the people', which might have been for that anyway if the campaigns had been conducted more honestly.
Use NI as an excuse.
I'm dreaming.
It's not entirely preposterous, all it would take is about half the tory MP leavers to get cold feet. Are there that many with sufficient intelligence?
May would have to go, of course, so win/win.
Rusty wrote:Great to see that salty old seadog OpenSeas pop in to the chamber last night. I haven’t heard from him since the glory days of the AS blog during the run up to the 2015 election. He was of course instrumental in defeating the tribal Labour consensus which prevailed amongst the faithful at the time.
Good to see you’re still doing well OS. If you’re not there already, get yourself on Twitter; it’s a laugh riot. For those of you already on Twitter, I highly recommend the #PrayforDiane hashtag. It hilariously chronicles some of the scepticism surrounding the sudden ‘illness’ which befell Diane Abbott, in the moments leading up to the politically-inconvenient Article 50 vote.
Happy Friday all! The sun is shining here in London! Let’s all have a good one.
Rusty
The brilliant thing about Open Seas was I could never tell whether it was amazing parody or awful reality.
Awful person, but sometimes a better *poster* than our other "friend" Rusty - was prepared on a good day to actually have a discussion rather than just troll.
I think it reflects badly on the Graun that they've banned him.
A will-o'-the-wisp (/ˌwɪl ə ðə ˈwɪsp/), will-o'-wisp (/ˌwɪl ə ˈwɪsp/), or ignis fatuus (/ˌɪɡnᵻs ˈfætʃuəs/; Medieval Latin for "foolish fire") is an atmospheric ghost light seen by travellers at night, especially over bogs, swamps or marshes. It resembles a flickering lamp and is said to recede if approached, drawing travellers from the safe paths (Wikipedia)
A will-o'-the-wisp (/ˌwɪl ə ðə ˈwɪsp/), will-o'-wisp (/ˌwɪl ə ˈwɪsp/), or ignis fatuus (/ˌɪɡnᵻs ˈfætʃuəs/; Medieval Latin for "foolish fire") is an atmospheric ghost light seen by travellers at night, especially over bogs, swamps or marshes. It resembles a flickering lamp and is said to recede if approached, drawing travellers from the safe paths (Wikipedia)
With a voice remarkably similar to Kenneth Williams.
Will we see Ed Miliband return to frontline politics? Jeremy Corbyn’s team would dearly like him to, according to PoliticsHome. (Politics Live Readers' Edition, Guardian)
Edited to correct an already immortalised typo. Unusually, on this occasion not by PaulfromYorkshire.
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Will we see Ed Miliband return to frontline politics? Jeremy Corbyn’s team would dearly like him to, according to PoliticsHome. (Plitics Live Readers' Edition, Guardian)
Will we see Ed Miliband return to frontline politics? Jeremy Corbyn’s team would dearly like him to, according to PoliticsHome. (Plitics Live Readers' Edition, Guardian)
Yes, please.
I'd love to see him back - but will he be unwilling to be so closely associated with the current leadership, or do you think he will be able and willing to steer things back on course if he has more of a profile?
StephenDolan wrote:So A127 block to Brexit is a no go.
The government partially resisted the judicial review application on the grounds that no decision to leave the EEA had yet been made and that it was therefore not a decision that was open to challenge.
Strange defence. I thought the government line was that leaving the EU automatically entails leaving the EEA. Do they not want to suggest they would defend on these lines because they don't want to tip off the opposition that they intend to take the line that the article 50 bill forms the mandate for the government to take us out of the EEA before MPs have voted on it? Because I have absolutely no doubt that that is the approach they will take to block all involvement of parliament in the negotiations once the article 50 bill goes through.
"Fall seven times, get up eight" - Japanese proverb
Too many bits to cite but I see Roger Helmer getting his name in but only in a related way whereas, as his wiki biog points out:
He was appointed Adam Smith Scholar in 2005 by the conservative American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC).[7]
Of course there will be people with no problems with all of this because "it's the private sector innit" and automatically better than the public sector. Sod transparency. Ask yourself at every point 'cui bono' - who benefits.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
Mr Yalland, whose partner is Polish, said: "I voted to leave the EU but Parliament did not intend the referendum to cover the issue of membership of the EEA.
"Hard Brexit risks Scotland leaving the Union. Brexit gives us our country back but a hard Brexit risks breaking it up."
Today the judges refused to give the green light for the new challenge and said they would give their reasons later.
When later?
Why a delay?
"Fall seven times, get up eight" - Japanese proverb
I like to be allowed to think without proving that someone else has already thought it, and that if they haven't then I am obliged to assume my thinking is automatically invalid. As if one's own thinking cannot be relevant unless someone else has got there first.
I like to be allowed to think without proving that someone else has already thought it, and that if they haven't then I am obliged to assume my thinking is automatically invalid. As if one's own thinking cannot be relevant unless someone else has got there first.
Can anyone from this century tell me why McAfee Analytics SDK sometimes takes up up to 640 MB of memory - or McAfee Scanner Service 177 - when it's not even scanning. Recent renewal keeps making my computer crash and it's - you guessed it - MAKING ME SEETHE.
It's like finding the # key all over again.
Only worse.
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I like to be allowed to think without proving that someone else has already thought it, and that if they haven't then I am obliged to assume my thinking is automatically invalid. As if one's own thinking cannot be relevant unless someone else has got there first.
I was just playing devil's advocate. 'Provide a link' is often used to challenge people who disagree, and Anatoly is a stickler for accuracy so I was hoping for the full monty
I agree with your view. No one asks voters to provide a link to back up their beliefs do they ?
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 12497/full
Dwight Codr, Raving at usurers: anti-finance and the ethics of uncertainty in England, 1690–1750 (Charlottesville, Va., and London: University of Virginia Press, 2016. Pp. xiv+242. 1 fig. ISBN 9780813937809 Hbk. £37.50/$39.50)
looks interesting:
Where other scholars have detected a work ethic in the Calvinist tradition or an anxiety about new forms of property in the classical humanist tradition, Codr discovers this ethic of uncertainty that he defines as disinterested sacrifices an individual has to make. These sacrifices might, but not necessarily will, be rewarded in the future by providence. Since the possible gratification depends on God's will and is therefore uncertain, the individual making a choice faces a risk.
Dalia Grybauskaitė, the Lithuanian president, offered a withering verdict on the recent meeting between Trump and Theresa May. “I don’t think there is a necessity for a bridge. We communicate with the Americans on Twitter,” she said.
Downing Street has dismissed the idea that Theresa May suffered a snub at an EU summit in Malta when her planned talks with Angela Merkel were called off, insisting the leaders had talked at sufficient length during an informal walkabout.
The post-lunch bilateral meeting with the German chancellor had been the planned highlight of a day of talks officially aimed at tackling the refugee crisis but featuring much discussion about Donald Trump and the approach of Brexit.
However, shortly before it was due to take place, Downing Street said it was not happening.
And the band played "Believe It If You Like".
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If you’re not there already, get yourself on Twitter; it’s a laugh riot. For those of you already on Twitter, I highly recommend the #PrayforDiane hashtag. It hilariously chronicles some of the scepticism surrounding the sudden ‘illness’ which befell Diane Abbott, in the moments leading up to the politically-inconvenient Article 50 vote.
