Tuesday 14th February 2017

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 3:02 pm

StephenDolan wrote:Toast.

Radio City Talk‏ @RadioCityTalk

UKIP leader Paul Nuttall admits that claims on his website that he lost a "close personal friend" at Hillsborough are false

Oh dear, oh dear.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 3:04 pm

HindleA wrote:http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/will-politics- ... ht-1606328

Thank you, I understand better now.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 3:13 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:Toast.

Radio City Talk‏ @RadioCityTalk

UKIP leader Paul Nuttall admits that claims on his website that he lost a "close personal friend" at Hillsborough are false
Oh dear, oh dear.

Good luck finding it on the BBC news website.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 3:16 pm

News only recently broke tbf. If enough people complain, they may give it greater prominence.

It is already big news in the local Stoke media, which is arguably what matters really.......

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 3:25 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:News only recently broke tbf. If enough people complain, they may give it greater prominence.

It is already big news in the local Stoke media, which is arguably what matters really.......

Nuttall images chronically his various personae the last couple months are also manifestations of cynical fakery.
That's a nice way to describe what Nuttall does.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 3:30 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-38958848" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

£1m raided from tenants' deposits by letting agents

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 3:40 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38969697" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nato defence spending target met, government insists

https://www.iiss.org/en/publications/mi ... -2017-b47b" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 3:44 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-38971604" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

UKIP suspends Philip Winter in racist tweet probe

Crimes against the English language.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 3:54 pm

Good gracious, everyone
His claims and retractions are disturbing
Nuttall needs therapy, in my opinion

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -was-false" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 3:57 pm

Anatoly@ - re your post the other day:

My lovely husband took me for a Valentine's Day lunch at The Harbourmaster in Aberaeron today.
In a glass case at the back of the bar stands a large stuffed albatross. One of Jung's synchronicities ?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 4:00 pm

yahyah wrote:Anatoly@ - re your post the other day:

My lovely husband took me for la Valentine's Day lunch at The Harbourmaster in Aberaeron today.
In a glass case at the back of the bar stands a large stuffed albatross. One of Jung's synchronicities ?

That's brilliant

I'm reading the first volume of a biography of Coleridge

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 4:02 pm

Now on BBC news website(not yahyah's stuffed albatross)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38972214" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 4:03 pm

Or is it?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 4:06 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ris-police" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

France's banlieues could erupt with violence again, experts warn
Academics say unrest following alleged rape by police officer could spark wave of riots last seen in 2005 unless politicians act

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 4:08 pm

https://qz.com/910245/the-fire-service- ... handcuffs/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Londoners keep getting stuck in penis rings and handcuffs, and officials blame “Fifty Shades of Grey”

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 4:09 pm

Stockport Hazel Grove AQI: Stockport Hazel Grove Real-time Air Quality Index (AQI).
113
Unhealthy
for Sensitive Groups
Updated on Tuesday 13:00
Temp.: 10°C

http://aqicn.org/city/united-kingdom/st ... zel-grove/

The entire West Midlands is a pollution nightmare

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 4:10 pm

HindleA wrote:https://qz.com/910245/the-fire-service- ... handcuffs/

Londoners keep getting stuck in penis rings and handcuffs, and officials blame “Fifty Shades of Grey”

Do they use an angle grinder to cut them off ? Oooh.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 4:14 pm

Apologies is it's already been posted but here's the video of Nuttall being interviewed about it.

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 4:58 pm

Intermission(by request)

[youtube]hQ4-hDKorQE[/youtube]

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 4:59 pm

Since much of today's discussion has been Stoke based - potter's wheel?

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 4:59 pm

yahyah wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://qz.com/910245/the-fire-service- ... handcuffs/

Londoners keep getting stuck in penis rings and handcuffs, and officials blame “Fifty Shades of Grey”
Do they use an angle grinder to cut them off ? Oooh.

Firefighters used pedal cutters - a hydraulic handheld piece of cutting equipment – to free the ring.

Hmm, probably just being pedantic, but I hope it wasn't the ring they were trying save.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 5:01 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... led-people" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Social care cuts: how are they affecting disabled people?
Frances Ryan

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 5:03 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Since much of today's discussion has been Stoke based - potter's wheel?

What does 'potter's wheel' mean, please?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 5:05 pm

citizenJA wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Since much of today's discussion has been Stoke based - potter's wheel?
What does 'potter's wheel' mean, please?

See above.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 5:20 pm

citizenJA wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Since much of today's discussion has been Stoke based - potter's wheel?
What does 'potter's wheel' mean, please?

The bit of film which HindleA provided (above) used to be shown on TV here as a short intermission piece (in the 60s (?) on the BBC (?)).

Edited to add -

Stoke and potteries (as I'm sure you've worked out for yourself!).

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 5:23 pm

http://www.bbctv-ap.co.uk/interlud.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 5:25 pm

Yes, it was one of a few such clips shown by the Beeb back then (another being "London to Brighton in 4 minutes" by train)

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 5:28 pm

BBC (TV News24) is covering the Paul Nuttall story but is drawing the fire from him by also covering (in the same item) the "Twitter" story about the Labour candidate. By implication, suggesting that they are equivalant failings - which, of course, they're not.

Edited - typo

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 5:37 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02 ... broadcast/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BBC fears it could lose rights to major sporting events as broadcast rules ignore 'iPad era

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 5:40 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bi ... um=twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 5:48 pm

https://theschoolbusblog.net/2017/02/14 ... la-rayner/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Exclusive: an interview with Angela Rayner

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 6:05 pm

I feel awful. Stinging eyes, congestion, irritation around my nose and raging headache - all I did was breathe the air.
Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 6:08 pm

Hope you feel better tomorrow JA. x

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 6:14 pm

Pienaar 20 second slot on Nuttall lies.

15 seconds talking about Labour.

True.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 7:12 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... yor-london" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Millwall CPO: false claims helped secure £20m of public money from Boris Johnson
• Council and Renewal made false claims while securing £20m grant
• Mayor Bullock quits as director of Surrey Canal Sports Foundation

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 7:14 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -admission" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hillsborough families dismayed by Paul Nuttall's 'insulting' admission
Families of people killed in 1989 disaster respond to Ukip leader’s admission that claims about losing close friends at match were false

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 7:16 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... minorities" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I fought racism and misogyny to become an MP. The fight is getting harder

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 7:19 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/healthcare- ... r-mess-nao" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Report by the National Audit Office lays bare government hubris and fictional promises of progress from within the NHS

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 7:20 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/housing-net ... 4-councils" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Homeless women are even more vulnerable than homeless men
Channel 4 programme shows more women are becoming homeless and being treated far worse on the streets and by councils

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 7:22 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/public-lead ... ake-report" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A hard Brexit will be made even harder because of Treasury failings
Lord Kerslake’s damning report exposes the yawning skills gap at the heart of government – just when we need to manage Brexit

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 7:24 pm

http://www.itv.com/news/2017-02-14/conc ... -and-opel/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Concerns over UK jobs as GM considers selling Vauxhall and Opel

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 7:49 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... n-dystopia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Calling pregnant women 'hosts'? We're in an anti-choice Republican dystopia
Jessica Valenti

Not fascist

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 7:50 pm

HindleA wrote:http://www.itv.com/news/2017-02-14/conc ... -and-opel/

Concerns over UK jobs as GM considers selling Vauxhall and Opel

Yes - to Peugeot! You've got to laugh . . .

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 7:50 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... lationship" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Flynn's resignation likely the beginning of Trump's Russia woes – not the end

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 7:54 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38959996" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Brexit: Environmental standards could be eroded warn peers

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 8:01 pm

https://labourlist.org/2017/02/angela-r ... e-promise/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Angela Rayner: I know what it is like to raise kids on low pay – and I know the Tories are breaking their childcare promise

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 8:16 pm

Minister backs early years educator u-turn as sector made to wait by PM’s office

http://feweek.co.uk/2017/02/13/minister ... mome_share" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 8:21 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... -study-nct" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tens of thousands of new mothers can't reach a midwife, study finds
Women are visiting already stretched A&E units and GP surgeries instead, according to charity NCT

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 8:30 pm

http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-fe ... -call-home" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Letter: Please support Rethink Mental Illness’s campaign a ‘Place to Call Home'

https://www.rethink.org/get-involved/ca ... g-campaign" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Tue 14 Feb, 2017 8:31 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -admission

Hillsborough families dismayed by Paul Nuttall's 'insulting' admission
Families of people killed in 1989 disaster respond to Ukip leader’s admission that claims about losing close friends at match were false

Steve Kelly, a member of the Hillsborough Justice campaign whose brother Michael died in the Leppings Lane end, urged the under-pressure Ukip leader to provide further evidence if he was at Hillsborough that day.

“He’s claimed that he can back all this up. Well, if that’s the case, that’s all he’s got to do to clear his name,” he said.

Indeed.