Friday June 9th 2017

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:46 am

@Willow I've moved the boundary sign,a few hundred yards,so now back in Labour terrority.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:51 am

wha' happened?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:52 am

pk1 wrote:Morning.

What a night that was !

Catastrophic decision by Theresa May & I expect she'll be gone within a week.

As for Labour - wow, some truly fantastic results and all credit to everyone involved.

Corbyn has proved me wrong and I don't mind admitting it. I still don't like him but he obviously has something that made so many want to come out and vote so kudos to him.

The next few days will be tantalising - will she stay or will she go; will they govern as a minority govt or can they join a coalition with the DUP; will Corbyn be invited to form a govts.

Fascinating stuff - I love it !

Wooooohooooo!

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:53 am

StephenDolan wrote:Morning all.

Politics, bloody hell.

Glad to see you here pk1, here's hoping we as a party (and as a forum!) can now pull together. 40% on a good turnout, that's a lot of Labour voters.

Sturgeon must be happy that the focus will be on May, that was an awful night for the SNP.

I love you!

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:56 am

I went to bed at ten o'clock last night and have only emerged into the light within the last hour
I've only the good news Tories lost their majority and all kinds of other changes gone down

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:00 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning All!

Well well. Amen to the sentiments above. If we're strong now who knows what we can achieve.

Here in Colne Valley we had a quite remarkable night, with the Lib Dem vote collapsing completely to Labour's advantage. Bye bye slimy Jason and congratulations Thelma Walker MP (Lab.).

Yes, stay together people, stay together
I'm just so happy to know Tories didn't get that domination thing they were going for

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:04 am

HindleA wrote:72% of 18-25 voted

Well done, young people!

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:07 am

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Shameless monster of a woman. And a stinking hypocrite to boot.

In spite of last night, things somehow got worse not better?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:08 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:Prad Patel‏ @pradip 2m2 minutes ago
The best thing about #GE2017 is the toxic press reporting from many of the newspapers in this campaign fell on deaf ears. Well done UK.

many people saw through the lies
that's victory

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:13 am

Nigel Farage to "come back" (not that he ever seemed to go anywhere - apart from brief trips to the USA where he failed the job interview)?

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:21 am

Front page contest might be over already:

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:22 am

I thought the DUP (who have some troubling beliefs - how will the Government hitching their wagon to them go down with the public once it becomes aware of who and what the DUP are) weren't going to talk about any "arrangement" until the week-end.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:25 am

NonOxCol wrote:

Shameless monster of a woman. And a stinking hypocrite to boot.

In spite of last night, things somehow got worse not better?

Tom Ewing‏ @tomewing 24m24 minutes ago
Well, at least we're spared the nightmare of an unelectable PM propped up by a cabal of out-of-touch hardliners peddling fantasy politics.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:26 am

PorFavor wrote:I thought the DUP (who have some troubling beliefs - how will the Government hitching their wagon to them go down with the public once it becomes aware of who and what the DUP are) weren't going to talk about any "arrangement" until the week-end.

I expect everyone was very clear about that - but then Labour made them do it

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:32 am

Tories picked up 13 seats in Scotland?
oh my god

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:33 am

"The dear old Queen"? Thus spake (the dear old) Paddy Ashdown.

Let's drink a toast to the . . .

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:34 am

Election 2017: Never has there been a night where anyone knew less what they were talking about
It turns out, then, that if you shout out the same rhetorical questions to the same crowd of activists, you can’t hear the answers the country is shouting back
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SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:36 am

Another election come October I'd expect. The obvious Tory play is

1. Ditch May

2. Have Johnson as leader

3. Run a competent campaign (eg no dead animals, no secondary moderns, no dementia tax, promise some goodies however unfunded).

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:38 am

Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) said on Friday it would not comment on reports that it had agreed to back Prime Minister Theresa May's ruling Conservatives in forming a government after an inconclusive election.
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citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:43 am

I'm just happy all that, 'Tories set to win 100 seat majority', was horsesh**
The 'coalition of chaos' might be real though, Theresa May, it's hers

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:51 am

May to visit palace to form government

Theresa May will go to the palace at 12.30pm believing she can form a government.

(Guardian, Live)

Believes? I wonder - will she refuse to "show her hand" when she speaks to the Quing?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:52 am

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THE LATEST: JUNCKER SAYS EU READY FOR BREXIT TALKS TOMORROW

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:55 am

Is anything happening about the student voters who were being turned away from polling stations? It's important for Labour not to let this slide - or the enthusiasm for voting will simply evaporate.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:55 am

TobyLatimer wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
HindleA wrote:@Toby, Skinner similarly hit,only his previous majority saved him.
Tories really had a go at him tbh.

My commiserations on Mansfield - maybe Meale should have stood aside for someone new and more energetic? Ashfield was a bit of a scare too.
Thanks AK. I am actually terrified more so than before the election. Meale was pretty much a quiet man round these parts, but he was always going to be for me at least, a last resort in the appeals process re PIP/WCA.

I'm sorry, TobyLatimer

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:57 am

@yahyah
Good to read you, my friend

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:57 am

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The DUP, MP by MP. Lovely.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 11:58 am

Bean‏ @Pbeanthatsme 4h4 hours ago
Are the tories seriously blaming youth vote for labour gains like we shouldn't count? THIS IS WHY WE DON'T VOTE FOR YOU.
#hungparliament

Temulkar · Post by **Temulkar** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:02 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:Another election come October I'd expect. The obvious Tory play is

1. Ditch May

2. Have Johnson as leader

3. Run a competent campaign (eg no dead animals, no secondary moderns, no dementia tax, promise some goodies however unfunded).

Johnson? The Darius Guppy tape would be everywhere. You still really don't understand what's happening, do you? People really should pay more attention in history class, to stop us students of it feeling like Cassandra.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:05 pm

Graham Pritchard‏ @GrahamPritchar1 6m6 minutes ago
Remember Tory scare tactics in fear of hung parliament in GE2015? Miliband in SNPs pocket! Now May in DUPs pocket! #hungparliament

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:05 pm

No offence meant SH, but what was the last political prediction you made that came true?

Temulkar · Post by **Temulkar** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:07 pm

StephenDolan wrote:No offence meant SH, but what was the last political prediction you made that came true?

He was in favour of craven images when Moses came down from the mountain, so...

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:07 pm

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:08 pm

KrushBrother Ⓥ‏ @OriginalKrush 9m9 minutes ago
Absolutely superb!
Remember when we were called deluded, and Tories were going to win extra 150 seats?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:08 pm

Farron - if May has an ounce of self-respect she will resign

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:09 pm

Farron on a deal with any Tory: No deal is better than a bad deal

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:12 pm

strong, stable, weak, wobbly, arrogant, vain ... what about:

'kin useless.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:16 pm

Donald Trump has written his first tweet of the day, but no comment from the US President on the general election result as yet.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:20 pm

GE 2017
Tory voters - 13,650,918 Labour voters - 12,858,644

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:21 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:Donald Trump has written his first tweet of the day, but no comment from the US President on the general election result as yet.

Good. He's speechless. He believed all the crap about the 100 seat Tory majority

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:22 pm

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Not sure what to make of this ...?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:23 pm

Quing to Theresa May:

Oh, it's you again. What is it this time?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:23 pm

PageFamilyLife‏ @Pagefamilylife 2m2 minutes ago
UK; Haha, US still have Trump. US; Yeah but you have the DUP now. Touché America, touché. #GE2017 #hungparliament

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:24 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:https://twitter.com/UK_GE2017
Not sure what to make of this ...?

That'd explain the Queen informing T May she's unavailable to receive her

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:24 pm

Harry Leslie Smith‏Verified account @Harryslaststand 44m44 minutes ago
The moment your government needs to be propped up by the #DUP is the moment the Tories should accept they aren't fit for purpose.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:25 pm

Damian Mac Con Uladh‏ @damomac 3h3 hours ago
Possible #DUP coalition demands?
* Banning abortion
* Ending gay rights
* Closing playgrounds on Sundays
* Putting creationism in museums

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:26 pm

This by Ben Chu is overwhelmingly important.

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Look at the numbers. Those figures are bigger than all of Labour's spending commitments. It is what matters.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:28 pm

Harry Leslie Smith‏Verified account @Harryslaststand 35m35 minutes ago
Theresa May's govt is now as strong and stable as a champagne glass perched on top of the head of a dancing drunk. #Tories #DUP

pleasing turn of phrase

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:29 pm

Conservative MPs are very, very angry at what they see as a totally avoidable loss of their majority.

Even if it is tenable for May to stick around for now, a leadership race for the medium term has effectively already kicked off. And demands are being made for the
prime minister to sack her two chiefs of staff, Fiona Hill and Nick Timothy.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:31 pm

http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/simon ... -1.3113723
Simon Jenkins: The rise of the remainers is about to begin. May’s Brexit strategy lies in ruins

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 12:32 pm

@tinyclanger2

Tiredness caused me to misread that as "Please turn the page." Threw me completely. Please don't do it again - I'm very befuddled today!