Saturday 24th & Sunday 25th June 2017

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 2:11 pm

Tory government ignore their duties, allow poor building maintenance, for example, and react after tragedy forcing people to work through the night. Forcing workers into unsafe work patterns to save on the cost of hiring a full crew is unacceptable.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 2:36 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ivor-anger" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

“You can clearly see the divide – different houses, different environment. I don’t think that many people liked the tower block, and so-called poor people living in such a nice neighbourhood,” he says. He bridles at the way the block has been depicted as a centre of deprivation in the media, irritated at being cast as “some lower status kind of person, with this portrayal of the tall block, a place that the government had got for poor people to live in squalid places. I wouldn’t say it is poor. I wouldn’t say it was high-end … but people work – my aunt works, my neighbours work.”

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 2:59 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ivor-anger

“You can clearly see the divide – different houses, different environment. I don’t think that many people liked the tower block, and so-called poor people living in such a nice neighbourhood,” he says. He bridles at the way the block has been depicted as a centre of deprivation in the media, irritated at being cast as “some lower status kind of person, with this portrayal of the tall block, a place that the government had got for poor people to live in squalid places. I wouldn’t say it is poor. I wouldn’t say it was high-end … but people work – my aunt works, my neighbours work.”

(cJA emphasis)
Thank you, agreed
It's not just London this kind of hyper-compartmentalised neighbourhood classification system operates
People are judged, in part, based upon where they live, whether they rent or own
It's absurd

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 3:19 pm

The rules governing how much water can be taken from rivers have not been updated for more than half a century and take no account of the water needed to sustain the ecological health of rivers. The government published proposed reforms in 2011 and had legislation drawn up early in 2017, but did not find parliamentary time to act.

The driest October-to-March period for 20 years this year was followed by an extremely dry April and below average rainfall in May, and has left much of Britain with low river and groundwater levels and facing the possibility of drought. The information released to WWF by the Environment Agency shows that in such conditions 23% of England’s rivers could run dry. Further data shows that more than 550 rivers and lakes are in a poor ecological state because too much water is being taken from them.

- Damian Carrington
Quarter of England’s rivers at risk of running dry, finds WWF

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -finds-wwf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't trust* Tory government to do anything but make life worse
Hydraulic fracturing continues, everyone

*edit

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 3:21 pm

Indeed,I cringe at the description of my part of village as "posh end"doing my best to dispel the myth and bring house prices down ,they had to literally give it away next door for someone to buy, as my patriotic duty.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 3:23 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/events/ec584f/live/c24mxj" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 4:20 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/events/ec584f/live/c24mxj

He was quite good.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 5:38 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... teeth-poor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 5:48 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... -aftermath" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 6:24 pm

Most Tory politicians seem to confuse patriotism with little Englanderism.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/let ... 06411.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

indeed

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 6:26 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bre ... 06231.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The risk of Brexit is generating daily distress for families – including mixed families, where British children are now being threatened with the expatriation of their mother or father

Still. Better press ahead. WOTP what?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 6:34 pm

18) fanciful Brexit (John Redwood)
19) Bromance Brexit

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 7:04 pm

refitman wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

Computer update seems to have been successful.

@SpinningHugo

Welcome to your new home.
The big question is: did Hugo move all his stuff in at once, or bit by bit?

Took two days as movers let me down. Fortunately ex landlord very understanding.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 7:13 pm

From the Graun:

Asked what the naughtiest thing he’d ever done at a festival was, Corbyn replied: “Oh it’s far too bad, I can’t possibly tell you,” he said, before adding: “Where’s the nearest wheat field?”

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 7:22 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:18) fanciful Brexit (John Redwood)
19) Bromance Brexit

Has Theresa May thought of using these words for her next assault on the EU -

"Mills and Boon"? "Derry and Toms" (very red white and blue, that one)? "Black and Decker"? I'm sure there are loads more off-the-shelf ones if she's running out of ideas. Of course, no-one will know what she's on about, by why change a winning formula?

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 7:45 pm

On Twitter today, one N. Farage has won the all-time glass house award....

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 7:54 pm

NonOxCol wrote:On Twitter today, one N. Farage has won the all-time glass house award....

I assume it's this one?

Why should we pay the BBC licence fee just so they can promote @JeremyCorbyn? Outrageous. twitter.com/rosskempsel…

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 8:16 pm

I seem to have contracted a dose of question-markitis.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 8:24 pm

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 8:40 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... fare-state" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... l-security" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://voxdev.org/topic/institutions-po ... -targeting" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 8:41 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-40391819" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 8:46 pm

#James O'Brien

Shelley's going to get a right kicking in the Mail on Monday.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 8:49 pm

HindleA wrote:#James O'Brien

Shelley's going to get a right kicking in the Mail on Monday.

Saw a good take on that one...

Sam Freedman‏ @Samfr 2h2 hours ago
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Sam Freedman Retweeted James O'Brien
So called "Romantic" who ABANDONED his wife and fled to EUROPE with 16 year old daughter of a FEMINIST.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 8:49 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ew-schools" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ministers in abrupt U-turn over fire safety in schools

More on that,from our political correspondent,PF:-

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 8:56 pm

Ministers in abrupt U-turn over fire safety in schools

Government goes back to drawing board after deciding that cost-cutting rules ‘would have been a disaster’ in light of Grenfell Tower disaster

Controversial government proposals to relax fire safety standards for new school buildings as a cost-cutting measure are to be dropped by ministers in a major policy U-turn following the Grenfell Tower fire.

The move is evidence of a dramatic change of approach across government, from a previous preoccupation with deregulation and cost-saving to a safety-first attitude, in the aftermath of the west London tower block tragedy. (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ew-schools

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:03 pm

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/stat ... ilure-rate" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:07 pm

@HindleA

You again.

Yippee aye-oh kye-a
Gallopin' all the way
There goes Quick Draw McGraw

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:13 pm

Well played sir.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:14 pm

[youtube]fxBOlLFz6NU[/youtube]

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:16 pm

Barking.
And I don't mean East London.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:16 pm

HindleA wrote:[youtube]fxBOlLFz6NU[/youtube]

I got the words a bit wrong, didn't I?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:18 pm

Right words not necessarilly in the right order.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:18 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:Barking.
And I don't mean East London.

It was still in Essex when I were a young-un . . .

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:20 pm

Night night.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:22 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 06621.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Since then I had patients, whom I treat on a daily basis, who were talking about foreigners and such and such and I told them, 'Well I'm European too and I will leave too if this is the case'. 'Oh no, no, no... we are not talking about you,' they said."

It seems to me that we have one non-ethical option that's stupid; and one non-ethical option that isn't.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:31 pm

http://earthjustice.org/news/press/2017 ... protection" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ICONIC GRIZZLY BEAR TO LOSE FEDERAL PROTECTION
In a controversial decision, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service removes Endangered Species Act protections for grizzlies in Yellowstone region

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:57 pm

PorFavor wrote:Night night.

Goodnight, PorFavor

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:57 pm

Hackers have targeted Parliament’s email system in an attempt to access the accounts of hundreds of MPs, Lords, aides and staff.

Security services are to shut down access for anyone not in Westminster as part of efforts to secure the network.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 06456.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:59 pm

The Donaeld:

Donaeld The Unready‏ @donaeldunready 12h12 hours ago
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It would help if bards were a little more patriotic and stopped singing false epics about break up of Heptarchy. We're all in this together.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:02 pm

I would just like to pay tribute to the fishpointer for the phenomenal service he provided to what was the nation before he came along and wrecked it.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:06 pm

But he LOOKED THE PART, you know. And to some, that is all that matters.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:08 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:I would just like to pay tribute to the fishpointer for the phenomenal service he provided to what was the nation before he came along and wrecked it.

I'm not over it
Cameron - arrogant, irresponsible use of power causing division, confusion, waste

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:10 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:But he LOOKED THE PART, you know. And to some, that is all that matters.

Sounded it too, the accent

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:11 pm

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:18 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... elter-rent" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Housing crisis threatens a million families with eviction by 2020

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:31 pm

https://www.vox.com/2017/6/24/15867614/ ... ing-period" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Senate GOP expected to add new penalties for the uninsured into their health bill

Post by **adam** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:40 pm

PorFavor wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:Barking.
And I don't mean East London.
It was still in Essex when I were a young-un . . .

Was it though, or was it one of those places that you think of as in one place but are strictly speaking in another? I was born a mile or so 'less east' in the London Borough of Newham, and I know that now Ilford, just to the north, is in the London borough of Redbridge. Looking it up, it's been the municipal borough of Barking, and later the london borough of barking and dagenham, since 1931 - if it was in Essex before then you were young indeed.

(ETA - I apologise for the utterly irrelevant pedantry of this, but only a bit.)

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:52 pm

HindleA wrote:Right words not necessarilly in the right order.

order schmorder

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:55 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... rt-protest" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
v delighted about the box-pleat rebellion - and indeed its success.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:56 pm

The US constitution has long guaranteed the right to bear arms – but now the schoolboys of Exeter have gone one better and won the right to bare legs.