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At first sight a bit disappointing result in Bolton :-(

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Hulton (Bolton) result:

CON: 49.4% (+16.7)
LAB: 40.1% (+3.0)
UKIP: 6.5% (-18.0)
LDEM: 2.3% (-0.2)
GRN: 1.8% (-1.5)

Always good to see UKIP collapsing I suppose :-)

[Edited to say I see UKIP held the seat at one point so this really is a collapse!]


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Poor old Phil Collins

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labo ... 83b2c10aeb

The idea the old Labour MPs have the guts to do this is a joke. They'll try to outlast Corbyn, but his health is good and he'll do for them.


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What a nasty God delusion prick you are.


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Poor old Phil Collins

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labo ... 83b2c10aeb

The idea the old Labour MPs have the guts to do this is a joke. They'll try to outlast Corbyn, but his health is good and he'll do for them.

The delusion behind this crap (excuse me) is the deselection threat.

Yet despite the supposed "iron grip" of Momentum on the party, "moderate" candidates are quite regularly being selected. And some more left wing ones too. I think that's a good thing.

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As mentioned last night.

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Macron: “the choice is on the British side [re financial services access], but it will not be the same level of relationship as a member of the Single Market ... or we will destroy the Single Market

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/ ... 4740073472

The UK can leave the single market if it wants, but by asking for full access for some sectors, like financial services, but not others, the UK isn't asking for a new relationship it is asking for a new, and reduced, single market, that will lessen the benefits for all those inside. PaulfromYorkshire suggests s small accommodation on freedom of movement of people could be agreed and I don't think this impossible, but some countries would have something to lose from what we would want so it would still be difficult. What the Tories appear to be after though....well, as I have pointed out before, if we had Marine Le Pen as French President threatening a French exit, Merkel ousted in Germany and calls for Catalan independence destabilising Spain, perhaps an embattled EU might have been vulnerable to the Tories divide and conquer approach to negotiations. As it is, Macron here is backing up Barnier's position. We can accept all the rules of the single market in return for all the benefits, or else we can negotiate a third party trade deal like Canada... and the latter is not going to give full access to the single market for financial services that the Tories want. As this reality hits home it's hard to see how the splits over Europe within the Tory party won't start to pull it apart.

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What an embarrassment our Foreign Secretary is.

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Macron says EU neither punishing nor rewarding UK on financial services trade: “be my guest” but if Uk wants “full access” to Single Market, then “you can choose between Norway and full membership”



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Macron: “the choice is on the British side [re financial services access], but it will not be the same level of relationship as a member of the Single Market ... or we will destroy the Single Market

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/ ... 4740073472

The UK can leave the single market if it wants, but by asking for full access for some sectors, like financial services, but not others, the UK isn't asking for a new relationship it is asking for a new, and reduced, single market, that will lessen the benefits for all those inside. PaulfromYorkshire suggests s small accommodation on freedom of movement of people could be agreed and I don't think this impossible, but some countries would have something to lose from what we would want so it would still be difficult. What the Tories appear to be after though....well, as I have pointed out before, if we had Marine Le Pen as French President threatening a French exit, Merkel ousted in Germany and calls for Catalan independence destabilising Spain, perhaps an embattled EU might have been vulnerable to the Tories divide and conquer approach to negotiations. As it is, Macron here is backing up Barnier's position. We can accept all the rules of the single market in return for all the benefits, or else we can negotiate a third party trade deal like Canada... and the latter is not going to give full access to the single market for financial services that the Tories want. As this reality hits home it's hard to see how the splits over Europe within the Tory party won't start to pull it apart.


I think the nonsense of the government's position is that they are asking for a 'better' trading relationship with the EU states than the EU states have with each other - because they want more or less the same without payments or oversight. I also wonder why this was such a headline story yesterday when all Macron was saying was 'this has always been the position, it continues to be the position now and it will in the future'.

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This is piece was first published as Boris Johnson’s dream of a Garden Bridge across the River Thames looked set for cancellation – which happened the following month, leaving the taxpayer with a bill of £52m. The Guardian has calculated that Johnson’s failed projects as Mayor of London cost almost £940m. However, this did not deter the foreign secretary from another grand idea on Thursday – that of a 22-mile bridge across the Channel between England and France.

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Willow904 wrote:
As this reality hits home it's hard to see how the splits over Europe within the Tory party won't start to pull it apart.

'Regulatory alignment' didn't do it, nor did 'full acquis' transition, so my bet is that they'll find a way to keep the show on the road.

I've decided to stop worrying about it and return to my pre-referendum position of 'never mind the pros and cons of EU membership, leaving is administratively impossible'.

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Poor old Phil Collins

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labo ... 83b2c10aeb

The idea the old Labour MPs have the guts to do this is a joke. They'll try to outlast Corbyn, but his health is good and he'll do for them.


Collins has become the new Cohen - the same Single Transferable Article, every time :)


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Jeremy Hunt Blasted For 'Dim' Tweet Revealing NHS Staff Shortages

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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
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At first sight a bit disappointing result in Bolton :-(

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Hulton (Bolton) result:

CON: 49.4% (+16.7)
LAB: 40.1% (+3.0)
UKIP: 6.5% (-18.0)
LDEM: 2.3% (-0.2)
GRN: 1.8% (-1.5)

Always good to see UKIP collapsing I suppose :-)

[Edited to say I see UKIP held the seat at one point so this really is a collapse!]


Also some local stuff, I understand. But at least Labour increased their vote, as they have done in every contest so far this year ;)


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Jeremy Hunt Blasted For 'Dim' Tweet Revealing NHS Staff Shortages

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"really clever use of technology where I clearly don't understand what it's telling me..."

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On the subject of technology, some light relief.

https://twitter.com/MyDoncaster/status/ ... 3240536064

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'I'm JC': Jeremy Corbyn on ageing, infighting and his Tory 'friends'
Labour leader responds to claims he is too old and gives his views on Westminster harassment

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A compulsory liquidation order was made against Carillion, on the petition of the companies’ directors, on 15 January 2018.
Various business commentators have suggested that Carillion went into compulsory liquidation rather than administration because it had no real assets left to sell.
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In the eight years from 2009 to 2016, Carillion paid out £554 million in dividends, almost as much as the cash it made from operations.
In the five years from 2012 to 2016, Carillion paid out £217 million more in dividends than it generated in cash from its operations.

Over the eight years from December 2009 to January 2018, the total owed by Carillion in loans increased from £242 million to an estimated £1.3 billion – more than five times the value at the beginning of the decade.

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That's fraud going on there, isn't it?


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Certainly worth looking in to.......


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I could be wrong, of course.
There may be no law against Carillion dispensing dividends beyond its means.
Maybe there's a law allowing Carillion to max out its credit card without the means to pay it back.


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"The High Court appointed the Official Receiver as liquidator. The court
also appointed 6 executives of PwC as Special Managers to assist the
Official Receiver. The liquidator must act in the interests of the body of
creditors as a whole.

It is a feature of the Carillion liquidation that the Official Receiver is
expected to prioritise the continuity of vital public services while
securing the best outcome for creditors. Unless told otherwise, all
employees, agents and subcontractors providing public services are
being asked to continue to work as normal and they will be paid for the
work they do during the liquidations by the Official Receiver. The
Government has undertaken
to provide the necessary funding required
by the Official Receiver to maintain public services carried on by Carillion
staff, subcontractors and suppliers."

- The collapse of Carillion
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That's fraud going on there, isn't it?

Trading while insolvent, may or may not be fraudulent depending on intent.
But if you can persuade the banks and the govt to keep propping you up.....

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As I said recently, Debbie really does work hard and effectively.

A quiet star on the Labour front bench.


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The DWP will write to everyone who is affected to identify those who are entitled to higher benefits. All payments will be backdated to 28 November 2016.
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The victory for charities, campaigners and Labour leaves an estimated £3.7billion black hole in government finances over five years.


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The victory for charities, campaigners and Labour leaves an estimated £3.7billion black hole in government finances over five years.

One day, soon I hope, the media will go back to quoting annual figures instead of this ridiculous trend for aggregating them.
It's c£750m p.a, and it's almost certainly already in the budget.

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People have died being denied and blatantly discriminated against,of course.Usual dimshit fuckwittery,cost saving allowance.Really not hard if you want people to self care/participate etc provide investment/funding in the most,according to all evidence(beyond the bloody obvious)the most efficient and independent enhancing way


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As I said recently, Debbie really does work hard and effectively.

A quiet star on the Labour front bench.


I've always liked her, ever since she won Oldham E for Labour in that 2011 byelection (which was very much a banana skin for Labour)


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Was only jesting on the recycling of gift cards as presents so I thought I had better check how much I've got,particularly Waterstones,I seem to have amassed £240 worth of them by putting them in a wallet I've splashed out on a diary,given no bastard,unusually has donated one.When I say I've splashed out...


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