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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ty-by-2021


Austerity will have cast an extra 1.5m children into poverty by 2021
Lone-parents, disabled children and ethnic minorities will be among worst-hit, says EHRC

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Library day today.

So...some years after cutting ESOL course funding, and after opening many more faith schools, and amid calls to lift the cap on the proportion of children of that faith who schools can select...the government is now worried about people not learning English and children growing up leading segregated lives.

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The Lords is being flooded with more Tory/Brexit peers next week, according to Jeffrey Archer who was told at Lord Fowler’s 80th birthday party! Gear up for big political row. Tories already have far more peers than their position in the Commons justifies!


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I see plenty of comments from right-wingers along the lines of 'Corbyn govt would destroy our country'.
Are they blind? (That's a rhetorical question, I know the answer, it suits them not to see).

This is from the G Business liveblog, summarising the Resolution Foundation's report on the Spring statement, and I'm leaving aside the benefit cuts for the moment.
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Departmental cuts – After a short lull in cuts to day to day departmental spending next year, they are set to return from 2019-20 onwards. These include a 12 per cent cut to the Ministry of Justice budget over the next two years, while central government funding of local government is set for a 19 per cent fall.

But my prediction that they'd look after the NFU is borne out.
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In contrast, DEFRA is set for a 21 per cent ‘Brexit bonus’ next year.

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Meeting the fiscal objective – The Chancellor is still forecast to be borrowing 0.9 per cent of GDP in 2022-23. Eliminating it by 2025-26 as originally intended would require a speeding up of departmental spending cuts in the next parliament. The OBR says that even delaying it until 2027-28 would require per capita departmental spending to fall in real terms in each year.

Or they could, you know, increase spending and generate some revenue that way. It's time these think tanks changed the record, why are they still reviewing the govt's budgets on the govt's own terms?

Tell me again who's going to destroy the country? :fire:

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The IFS are at it as well.
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on current forecasts, just keeping spending constant as a fraction of national income beyond 2019–20 and reaching budget balance by the mid-2020s would require tax rises of £30 billion a year.

Nobody bothers pointing out how much they've cut taxes since 2010.

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The Russian responses to us seem to show they have been learning from our responses to the EU.

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Twitter throws up some interesting juxtapositions.

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“We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special.”

RIP Stephen Hawking.

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Bringing Mencap to a standstill

pre-inquest review meeting before Danny Tozer’s inquest

Danny was a fit and healthy young man, who liked nature, people and cups of tea. He was just 36 when he died in September 2015. Danny had a severe learning disability, autism and epilepsy. He lived in supported living provided by Mencap at 34 Maple Avenue in York and had lived there for just over two years at the point of his death.
"So we have counsel for the leading voice of learning disability arguing to close the scope, limit the audience, and restrict evidence to a period where they’re missing any daily documentation. Hardly a full, frank and detailed exploration of what happened."


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I know what she meant but would you really choose this quote? :twisted:


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"And disabled people are very hard hit, particularly those with more severe disabilities. "


It’s time to re-think welfare reform


The reforms have affected the income, living standards and opportunities of a number of protected groups but the most affected of all are disabled people.


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My dad has just passed away.

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My dad has just passed away.

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There will be largely radio silence for a while from here, I hope that is understood.


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My dad has just passed away.

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Spy poisoning: why Putin may have engineered gruesome calling card
Insiders say all trails lead back to Moscow, suggesting a deliberate act to incite row with UK

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ssion=true

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Moscow’s covert operation to support Trump during the 2016 US election was a large enterprise. It involved career intelligence officers, cyber-criminals and professional trolls. Only Putin and a few top officials know its full scope. But a wider group of individuals understand parts.

Anyone thinking of cooperating with Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating collusion, will think twice.


This was one of my first thoughts, I must admit.

I can't say it has occurred to me at any point that it wasn't Putin, either. Although it's good to be wary of knee-jerk reactions, muddying the water is not helpful. Occam's razor is often a useful principle to adhere to in times of uncertainty.

As a nation we should be looking at what makes us vulnerable. Personally I'd put letting any old Tom, Dick or Harry own and run our essential infrastructure at the top of that list. We need more home grown investment in home grown renewables so we are less reliant on imported Russian gas and we need to be seen to be spending on defence as it's the only effective deterrent we have.

Which is a way of saying the Tories have been doing everything wrong and putting our nation's security at risk in the process. Hypotheticals about what Corbyn may or may not do shouldn't be allowed to obscure the very real mistakes we know for a fact our current government has made. Theresa May wants to be tough but Tory austerity has left her very little to be tough with, while Brexit has degraded the goodwill of old allies.

We're in pickle, basically.

So let's hope the above proposition is correct, that this was a general warning to those who may be thinking of betraying Putin and not a specific attack on Britain, because we're going to need much better defences than we currently have if the latter is the case.

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Nothing May has announced is likely to deter Putin from future adventures similar to what happened in Salisbury. Justly or not, he will interpret May’s remarks on Wednesday as proof of what he concluded long ago: that Britain is lacking in allies and weak.


Yep.

We're compromised, reliant on Russian money and Russian gas.

I do agree with Corbyn on that. I'm not sure why he was unable to unequivocally agree that Putin is "highly likely" behind the attack, though. Throwing doubt on the integrity of our security services isn't helpful. Tightening up our defences and being more wary of our dealings with Russia doesn't require the same level of proof as committing individuals to jail for the offence, something it's unlikely, on past evidence, we'll ever be in a position to do, anyway.

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Yep - the time between me making quiet enquiries about the wealth/circumstances of dubious Russian businessmen and the Guardian legal team receiving a threatening letter from expensive London lawyers has been under 24 hours at times.

https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status ... 9210503169


There's this too.
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Liz Saville (Plaid Cymru) "Sources suggest Russia is the UK's biggest nuclear substances export market" asks Theresa May "Will the PM confirm whether the UK is still exporting nuclear substances to Russia or not?" May pitifully refuses to answer.

Extraordinary revelation #PMQs

What did I say earlier, just who is it who's going to ruin the country.

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Spy poisoning: why Putin may have engineered gruesome calling card
Insiders say all trails lead back to Moscow, suggesting a deliberate act to incite row with UK

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ssion=true

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Moscow’s covert operation to support Trump during the 2016 US election was a large enterprise. It involved career intelligence officers, cyber-criminals and professional trolls. Only Putin and a few top officials know its full scope. But a wider group of individuals understand parts.

Anyone thinking of cooperating with Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating collusion, will think twice.


This was one of my first thoughts, I must admit.

I can't say it has occurred to me at any point that it wasn't Putin, either. Although it's good to be wary of knee-jerk reactions, muddying the water is not helpful. Occam's razor is often a useful principle to adhere to in times of uncertainty.

As a nation we should be looking at what makes us vulnerable. Personally I'd put letting any old Tom, Dick or Harry own and run our essential infrastructure at the top of that list. We need more home grown investment in home grown renewables so we are less reliant on imported Russian gas and we need to be seen to be spending on defence as it's the only effective deterrent we have.

Which is a way of saying the Tories have been doing everything wrong and putting our nation's security at risk in the process. Hypotheticals about what Corbyn may or may not do shouldn't be allowed to obscure the very real mistakes we know for a fact our current government has made. Theresa May wants to be tough but Tory austerity has left her very little to be tough with, while Brexit has degraded the goodwill of old allies.

We're in pickle, basically.

So let's hope the above proposition is correct, that this was a general warning to those who may be thinking of betraying Putin and not a specific attack on Britain, because we're going to need much better defences than we currently have if the latter is the case.

That Luke Harding article was the best I've seen so far , tho of course one can always find more hypotheticals !
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... isbury-spy

In the name of Austerity ( translation = ideological shrinking of the State) the Tories disbanded the Army regiment specialising in NBC warfare, cut police and PCSO numbers, also increased the cuts to HMRC begun under Labour* … which party could, be doing much more to present itself as being stronger on ‘security’ than the Tories ?

I hope they are keeping that in reserve for when it's needed !

There are many other aspects to security such as the austerity-sacking of environmental health officers, trading standards, the list continues ... more on that and the rest of the "shrinking of the State from Polly --

2017/may/09/enemies-state-tory-project-shrink-public-services-schools-health-inspectors-book-dismembered

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017 ... ismembered

Monbiots "Captive State" told it all too, years ago !


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
My dad has just passed away.

RIP.

There will be largely radio silence for a while from here, I hope that is understood.

Sorry to hear that AK. Take your time. :hug:


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RIP.

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Best wishes, AK. Thinking of you.
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Many condolences AK

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.irishtimes.com/opinion/unlikely-that-vladimir-putin-behind-skripal-poisoning-1.3425736

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
My dad has just passed away.

RIP.

There will be largely radio silence for a while from here, I hope that is understood.


Very sorry to hear that, AK. Please add my sympathies, to all your family. Whether expected or unexpected, such loss is devastating/

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