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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... amber-rudd

A responsible government doesn't default apply without such considerations
A non malicious government doesn't bespoke knowingly apply without exemptions.


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So will general applications still apply,regardless.A rhetorical question.


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No none piece of shit would have voted for the not quite terminally ill enough(maybe)it's a lifestyle choice hodding a brick or two with an oxygen tank is good for your health policy,regardless if unintentional.


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Apologies to pieces of shit for the comparison.


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"We spend ten zillion pounds a second on support for lazy fuckers,some of them even die without thanking us,inbuilt debt is part of UC"A DWPbot stated.


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What I voted for brings tears to my eyes,H.Allen commented peeling an onion.


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HindleA wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/11/benefits-system-for-terminally-ill-to-be-reviewed-says-amber-rudd

A responsible government doesn't default apply without such considerations
A non malicious government doesn't bespoke knowingly apply without exemptions.
Having to prove you're going to die within the next six months in order to get the DWP to bust a move is outlandish. Make sure everyone ill has what's needed quickly.


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Policies will remain and harm the terminally ill "outwith" and regardless of that ascription.


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I return to my repeated "situation"first rather than afterthought(at best)and general(to me)arse about face thinking.


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Amber Rudd, one of the leading cabinet opponents of hard Brexit, has publicly ditched her opposition to no deal as senior Tories jostle for position in a Boris Johnson cabinet.
Rudd had previously joined with her cabinet colleagues David Gauke and Greg Clark to force Theresa May to take no deal off the table to stop the UK crashing out at the end of March.
But with Johnson on the brink of No 10, she has changed her mind, telling TalkRadio on Thursday morning: “Both candidates have said that no deal is part of the armoury going forward, and I have accepted that.

Guardian today.

Any idea that the conservatives offer a way out of this mess should be taken with the usual pinch of salt.

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Hmmm, she is still ambitious enough to hope for a job under the next PM.

But there are a certain number of Tory MPs who have pretty much burnt their bridges in that regard.

They are the ones to watch.


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Some people seem genuinely irked that Labour HQ defended itself over last night's Panorama.

If the party genuinely believes the programme was inaccurate in the ways claimed, what are they supposed to do exactly?

The idea they should meekly roll over because it is an emotive subject - as some of the party's own MPs have implied - just seems a denial of natural justice to me.


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It was a hatchet job by a hatchet man and the appropriate responses should be taken.


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The report is at the bottom of the article.


Planning system can deliver beautiful places, Beauty Commission says

https://www.rtpi.org.uk/briefing-room/news-releases/2019/july/planning-system-can-deliver-beautiful-places,-beauty-commission-says/

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The Commission’s proposals began by saying “the planning system and development market can deliver beautiful places today. But they do so far too rarely. The aim of future planning and development should be place-making, remodeling existing settlements and delivering enough good, beautiful, sustainable settlements in the right places in which people can live and work in ways that support choice, economic growth and progress, sustainability and healthy lifestyles.”.


Edit - this is the commission from which Scruton was booted out.

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Camilla Tominey: "Alan Duncan Doesn't like Boris, does he?"

Alistair Burt: "Well, he's worked with him. I've also worked with him, and I'm not voting for him either."


:lol:

Pretty sure I remember someone saying that Johnson is a great bloke...until you get to know him.

Politics right now...one hell of a mess.

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reminds me of The Thick of It

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Peter Mannion : How is my blog? My own personal blog, personally written by me?

[all reading the blog]

Phil Smith : There we go. Yesterday you liked the leader's speach, it was bold, corageous and sent up the right signals. And you had fruit for lunch.

Peter Mannion : Oh, I write very well. What's the feedback like? Let's see that.

Phil Smith : Open this page here. Here we go.

Peter Mannion : [reading] "I don't trust you, you Cypriot crook". Cypriot? This is the shit room! You've opened the shit room door. "How're the maintenance payment going on, you bastard?" Christ, that was 12 years ago!

Phil Smith : I haven't seen that one...

Peter Mannion : [reading] "Adulterous Nazi!"

Phil Smith : Or that one.

Emma Messinger : That's actually, I think, the same one.

Peter Mannion : This is the trouble with the public, they're fucking horrible!

Emma Messinger : Peter, you can't say the public are fucking horrible.

Peter Mannion : Yes I can, I've met them.

[reading]

Peter Mannion : "You've always got such a pained expression. Do you take it up the chutney?" Really? I mean, for God's sake...

Emma Messinger : The chutney?

Peter Mannion : It's up the arse.

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Anyone out there?


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Anyone out there?

What is there to say?

It's a farce. The "Government" isn't governing. The media play out the contest between Hunt and Johnson that most people can't vote in and in their spare time smear Jeremy Corbyn.

And it'll be the same tomorrow.

But at least we thrashed the Aussies :twisted:


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Anyone out there?

Here


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.@tom_watson knows perfectly well that he cannot make “demands” of Jennie Formby. She is only answerable to @UKLabour NEC. And very wrong to imply that she is dealing with this matter with anything less than her usual professionalism @JennieGenSec

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Labour source - ‘Jennie Formby offered to meet with Tom Watson to provide him with the Party’s response to the EHRC. This week Jennie Formby took time out of her chemotherapy treatment to update the Shadow Cabinet on this. Tom Watson was present but did not ask any Qs on this’


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I never voted for Watson in 2015.

A decision that I become prouder of by the day.


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
I never voted for Watson in 2015.

A decision that I become prouder of by the day.


Ditto.


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Although I'm ever so 'umble, generally speaking.


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Watson's demands are unprofessional. It's not the first time.


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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
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Labour source - ‘Jennie Formby offered to meet with Tom Watson to provide him with the Party’s response to the EHRC. This week Jennie Formby took time out of her chemotherapy treatment to update the Shadow Cabinet on this. Tom Watson was present but did not ask any Qs on this’
Why didn't Watson ask for more information during this opportunity?


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I see that the Daily Borisgraph are so desperate for someone to come in their man's side they've got an MP who got booted out in 2017...desperate times call for desperate measures though.

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"Nothing to see here. Move along please"...

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Twitter down?


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Yep.

just been asked the same thing on FB.

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Yep.

just been asked the same thing on FB.

So how do I find owt?


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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
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Yep.

just been asked the same thing on FB.

So how do I find owt?


It's back...no, it's gone...no, it's back.

You get the picture.

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I can't help thinking that the Tories are in the same position now as Labour were a few years back i.e. with many prominent front-benchers refusing to serve under their leader (or potential leader).

Their problem is that things might unravel far quicker than it is for Corbyn.

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With Question Time now blessedly gone for the Summer I thought I might have a rest from angry rants and mockery but I can't quite get the performance of Richard Tice out of my mind from Newsnight last night.

Tice is, of course, now an MEP along with being the joint director of the Brexit Party Ltd and former joint head of Leave.EU. He's also unremittingly thick, a transparent and shameless chancer, and a living embodiment of the Dunning–Kruger effect.

Last night on Newsnight he was sat between a former ambassador to Iran and a Times journalist both of whom were palpaply astonished at the unabashed idiocy coming out of his mouth and it only seemed to make him stronger. The more they pointed out to him that he was expressing unmitigated bollocks the more confident and arrogant he became. Like some really shit superhero impervious to ridicule. And as if that weren't bad enough he had the gall to claim he would have made better ambassador to the U.S, despite the fact that the people sitting either side of him clearly thought if he were any more dense he would collapse spacetime into a singularity.

What's truly depressing about this whole Brexit farce is just how many spectacularly dim-witted cretins it has raised to positions of genuine influence, from Richard Tice to Mark Francois. People who not only seem to be brazenly and perversely proud of their ignorance, but also revel in the fact when others are infuriated by it, while all the time being cheered on by an alarmingly sizeable minority of our population.

Quite how 'Brexit Britain' is supposed to thrive when having a brain is seen as a hindrance is quite beyond me.

My Dad used to warn me as a kid about bullies hassling me at school about reading books and the like, and to be honest I never experienced that kind of anti-intellectualism even in a small town in the Seventies. Amongst the working class then there was still a strong ethic that learning was good, it was a way to better yourself, do better than your parents, it was something to be proud of. But the events of the last few years have persuaded me that those times are now long gone. Anti-intellectualism never leads to good places and I fear we may end up doing a lot of going backwards before we end up going forwards again.

Or it could just be I've been making my way through Blake's 7 and its glorious pessimism has rubbed off a bit.

I'm sure everything will be fine.


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RogerOThornhill wrote:
I can't help thinking that the Tories are in the same position now as Labour were a few years back i.e. with many prominent front-benchers refusing to serve under their leader (or potential leader).

Their problem is that things might unravel far quicker than it is for Corbyn.


Not to worry, they're all coming into line, Amber Rudd being the latest to kiss Johnson's ring and proclaim herself a true believer in his magic brexit powers.

Despite previously saying she wouldn't share a taxi with him and doing all she could to prevent a no deal brexit.

Shameful public hypocrisy means nothing to a front bench Tory wanting to keep their job.


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Amber Rudd embraces no-deal Brexit as ministers pitch to Johnson
Cabinet members seek jobs under new PM with Liz Truss eyeing role of chancellor

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-brexit
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