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PostPosted: Wed 09 Oct, 2019 3:40 pm 
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Still part of the overall narrative.Not exactly conducive in encouragement terms.Far better,as you endeavoured to point out the facillitating for what should be the priority,it isn't at all necessary.


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#cja there are reasons as to why the independent living movement arose ,away from "being cared for".Properly financed ,reasonable wages and conditions does not necessarily attend to those fundamentals.Real love relinquishes control as discombobulating ,both ways,as that may be.
I understand that. Neither of us are defending the economic system we're obliged using.
What we do for family, lovers or friends
What we do for wages
Our more intimate relationships are usually outside the scrutiny of society or government (if there's abuse going on, that requires intervention, I'm not writing about that here)


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PostPosted: Wed 09 Oct, 2019 3:48 pm 
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The people and associated burden"narrative appals me.Every single one of us is reliant on others,not being as visible doesn't remove that fact.A circumstantial change led to a reframing of an already existing mutual endeavour,gain as much as supposed loss
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The mythical past of we all looked after each other according to chosen time points /party/political view is equally mythical.

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Oct, 2019 4:08 pm 
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Local authority run places are/were quite capable of being equally appaling as any for profit.Institionalism/organisational need regardless of actually in an institution (for obvious reasons the NHS dialysis team tended to recreate their working conditions in our home in our training ,swiftly removed once control established to combat unnecessary "paraphernalia to make as homely as possible.This equally pertains in social care )must be thwarted/railed against IMHO.


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Damian Green, leader of the One Nation caucus of MPs, says Boris Johnson told him at meeting:
- he will not go into election promising no deal Brexit
- he will not make a pact with Nigel Farage.
"We looked each other in the eye. I accept and believe the reassurances," says Green


We could really have an 'anything goes' election, with somebody winning with a voteshare in the 20s.


I'm not sure he really does "believe and accept" that, but getting it on the record now can surely do no harm.


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Not a criticism of the team.People are different,you can't completely domestic ,given a dialysis machine,but we did call him Dennis and he behaved himself usually.


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Removing the Bristol Stool Chart from the wall and putting in s drawer that kind of thing.


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What's that they said about Labour's Brexit position being confused?

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But what do Tories say on #Brexit at an election?

Lib Dems: Revoke

Labour: Referendum

BREX: Leave NOW

Tories: some Deal or No Deal and we want you to believe both(?)

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https://amp.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ssion=true


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What The Actual Fuck (part 20986785 and continuing)


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The DWP guidance of "being mindful" that not taking zonking out addictive drugs which have pernicious side effects,catastrophic for some may not be indicative of level of pain,you would think would be unnecessary for health care professionals.


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A system that actively encourages drug addiction may be slightly awry,some would say


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Again,the DWP and associates working "against "another reason to relinquish control of monetary distribution decisions.


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Regardless of name change.


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PfY still hard at work,studying the Beeriodic Table and it's elements (Twitter reference)


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Constance playing the washboard wearing "Deryck Guyler "glasses.


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No idea why DG playing the washboard came into my head,perhaps best just to accept,rather than think as to why.


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It's probably a good thing I am not on any medication of any sort,or perhaps not,views may differ.


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Maximus did suggest I took some mind altering drugs and at least look reasonably drug-addled for six months and then come back to them.


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I suggested ,sawing my leg off in front of them ,but apparently that's a common ruse,just ignored.


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@Cja are you aware of the great Deryck Guyler and his works?


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PF doing Joan Sanderson impressions as part of their annual"Please,Sir"tribute.Peter Cleall making a guest appearance and reconstructing his memorable "ticket to Nottingham "Tunes advert which played such a part of many peoples' upbringings.


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Still in the Fenn Street Gang,I believe.


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Attempts at coaxing PF to post appear to be failing.


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Admittedly it may be difficult whilst she is trampolining for some reason.I may have to check if I have got the right "channel"


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President Trump says he just had an “extended conversation” with British PM Boris Johnson, adding “they will be doing a number of things for us.” (US Politics Live, Guardian)


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It's a owl, Sir. Hoot, hoot!


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PorFavor wrote:
It's a owl, Sir. Hoot, hoot!

Was it a Peruvian owl? They're all Inca hoots.


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@Cja are you aware of the great Deryck Guyler and his works?

I've just seen your post now. No, I don't recognise the name. I'll search for it. Post me what you'd like me to know.


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Good night, PorFavor.


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President Trump says he just had an “extended conversation” with British PM Boris Johnson, adding “they will be doing a number of things for us.” (US Politics Live, Guardian)
oh god no


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@Cja are you aware of the great Deryck Guyler and his works?

I've just seen your post now. No, I don't recognise the name. I'll search for it. Post me what you'd like me to know.
I've never seen those films or listened to the radio programmes. I've read a bit about him. I think I used to have a t-shirt with an image of him printed on it. My friends all wanted one.


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Sorry if we've already done this.

I do believe this was a typo, but the fact you can question it is scary.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... 545074.amp


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Evening all.

I made the mistake of clicking on "Bercow" that was trending...dearie me, the number of utterly clueless shouty individuals there are - and yes, that includes Kate Hoey...

How depressing.

A bit when people talk about Bilderberg, I would only have been surprised if there wasn't some sort of conversation going on.

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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
Sorry if we've already done this.

I do believe this was a typo, but the fact you can question it is scary.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... 545074.amp



It's an extremely weird/patronising usage even in it's intentional form.


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IMHO.


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And Tarquin's.I've knitted him a hat.(or attempted to)He doesn't seem overly impressed.


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Suspiciously sock shaped as with all my attempts.


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I've even included a ventilation system.


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Or a gaping hole in layperson's terms.


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I may try and get my money back on the self-knit knitting needles,they didn't make much effort.


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Goodnight, everyone.
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