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I fail to see how any of the above is "getting personal" tbh.HindleA wrote:Morning
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Could do without the shit-stirring cynical ammunition providers of the don't believe their fake news,believe ours nonsenseteers IMHO.
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He's often good.
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Good morfternoon.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... o-see-a-gpA third of patients have to wait a week or more for a GP appointment
Thinktank survey shows system at breaking point as experts question Johnson’s pledge to recruit more family doctors (Observer)
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Good afternoon, everyone.
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Goes on to say we can't even afford the worst pension in the developed world and despite low paid millenials and women already facing worse pension prospects after recent changes, UK pensions will have to be cut even further or NI contributions rise. Now remind me what the Chancellor, Philip Hammond, tried to do a couple of years ago but was shouted down by self-interested, self-employed journalists....UK state pension worst in the developed world
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Its good that the cranks are finally being weeded out, this is something which all the Labour leadership candidates agree on.
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Cor blimey.
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Exit poll gives Sanders a massive lead in Nevada.
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Things going swimmingly then?
Home Office’s immigration boss quit ‘after run-ins with Priti Patel’
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Home Office’s immigration boss quit ‘after run-ins with Priti Patel’
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But of course when things inevitably will go wrong, it will be the Civil Service's fault...Mick Jones of the Public and Commercial Services Union (PCS), the largest trade union for Home Office staff, said that Patel’s approach to various immigration issues had led to Thomson’s resignation.
“He’s indicated to our reps that it was mainly because they had had major run-ins. It was clear that [Patel] had come in and was trying to do things that they [Home Office officials] just weren’t comfortable with and [Thomson] sort of said ‘I’m off then’.”
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And from the DT...
Top civil servants on Tories' 'hit list'
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Top civil servants on Tories' 'hit list'
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Boris Johnson wants to replace a series of mandarins as part of a move to change dramatically the approach in some of Whitehall’s most influential departments, Tory sources claim.
Senior Tories said No 10 sees Sir Tom Scholar, the Treasury permanent secretary, who previously led David Cameron’s attempted renegotiations with the EU, as “offside” on Brexit and his approach to the economy.
Sir Tom is said to top a “s---list” of permanent secretaries No 10 wants replaced over claims that they are significantly at odds with Tory ministers and advisers, who have been buoyed by Mr Johnson’s landslide election win.
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Goodnight, everyone.
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ear-weaponPentagon reveals deal with Britain to replace Trident
MPs dismayed after US defence officials leak news of nuclear weapons deal before parliament is told
Britain has committed itself to buying a new generation of nuclear warheads to replace Trident, which will be based on US technology. The decision was revealed by Pentagon officials who disclosed it before an official announcement has been made by the government.(Observer)
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Ah yes, our closest best buddy...thoroughly reliable.
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Rename communal calamity - won't be done by Christmas he says (8.6).
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More delays? Well, I am surprised at that...
Anger over fresh delays to decision on Arcuri-Johnson probe
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Anger over fresh delays to decision on Arcuri-Johnson probe
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Now London assembly members fear that the continuing and “surprising” delay by IOPC investigators could mean that no announcement will be forthcoming before the period of “purdah” that begins next month before the London mayoral elections.
They say they were initially told that the IOPC investigation into Johnson – who, when he was mayor, had responsibility for policing in London – would be “done and dusted” by the end of November, allowing the GLA’s oversight committee to resume its own investigation into Johnson’s relationship with Arcuri.
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Did you mean to link to that generic page?HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk/commentisfree
Rawnsley missing the point again, I see.
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I think that if I had as many reservations about the pledge as Lisa Nandy says she has, then I wouldn't have signed it.Lisa Nandy says trans rights pledge wording gave her 'pause for thought'
Labour leadership candidate responds to criticism of Labour Campaign for Trans Rights
(Guardian)
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I tend not to bother with politics programmes on Sunday so had missed this until just now.
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NEW: Diane Abbott says she will be stepping down from the Shadow Cabinet under the new leader because they will need to construct their own team #ridge
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Of course she is in her mid 60s now so its a natural time to do so anyway.
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I don't buy this bit of revisionism.
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If Tony Blair has been leader, Labour would have won the 2010 election. There would have been no Brexit, no Johnson, no Cummings and we would all be much happier and better off
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Equally, if the Guardian hadn’t laid into Brown, perhaps Labour would still have won.
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I agree with you.tinyclanger2 wrote:Equally, if the Guardian hadn’t laid into Brown, perhaps Labour would still have won.
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I've always liked Gordon Brown. He's a decent, responsible person and I'm sorry his premiership ended.
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One of my favourite journos of recent times is Jon Stone
This thread on the New Labour years is simple, factual and quite brutal.
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This thread on the New Labour years is simple, factual and quite brutal.
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Not quite factual re.welfare reform but I am pernickety
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Go on.HindleA wrote:Not quite factual re.welfare reform but I am pernickety
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Unfit to work being forced to work,for one thing.
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Or mothers'with children under one,for another.
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This is good too
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Not defending,the bloody "rat"depictions on bus shelters and adverts with the "appropriate"accents etc was atrocious.
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I think it's correct to say humans are now closely connected in a way historically unprecedented. What are the indirect consequences of the disease? Think of how pharmaceuticals, foodstuffs and gadgets are created, grown, harvested or manufactured. One link in the production chain goes down and we have no boxed blister packs of clonazepam tablets, for example."The world is fast approaching a tipping point in the spread of the coronavirus, according to experts, who warn that the disease is outpacing efforts to contain it, after major outbreaks forced Italy and Iran to introduce stringent internal travel restrictions and South Korea’s president placed the country on red alert."
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Thank you both. I needed the reminder.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:@HA thanks
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That's my mate P, he's a labour member who voted for Jeremy Corbyn but now thinks armed conflict in a low level civil war is what's about to happen next.