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Mike Hancock.has resigned from.the Lib dem Party.
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Good time to bury bad news and all thatHindleA wrote:Mike Hancock.has resigned from.the Lib dem Party.
Though it does maybe add to rumours (reported in the latest Private Eye) that he could still stand as an Independent at the GE.
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Leanne Wood, someone shoot me now!
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Evening All
Just a reminder of this excellent tool
http://vis.oobrien.com/indyref/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
which predicts results in East Lothian (narrowly No) and North Lanarkshire (narrowly Yes) at 2.00 am
Insofar as we know anything about this vote these look like interesting early indicators.
Just a reminder of this excellent tool
http://vis.oobrien.com/indyref/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
which predicts results in East Lothian (narrowly No) and North Lanarkshire (narrowly Yes) at 2.00 am
Insofar as we know anything about this vote these look like interesting early indicators.
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David Maddox@DavidPBMaddox
Alex Salmond understood to be coming to Edinburgh. Ladbrokes have cut odds that he will resign in 48 hours to 2/1 #indyref #indyts
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Evening All
Just a reminder of this excellent tool
http://vis.oobrien.com/indyref/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
which predicts results in East Lothian (narrowly No) and North Lanarkshire (narrowly Yes) at 2.00 am
Insofar as we know anything about this vote these look like interesting early indicators.
Thanks for that.
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Road traffic accident closes A9, delaying Caithness boxes from travelling down to the counting centre.
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Yes he does, in the same way I am not permitted to represent my company in front of the media. She should be told that she is not permitted to act as a Labour Party representative to the media.AnatolyKasparov wrote:Does he have any say? She is somebody who the Beeb loves to go to for the "Labour view" - for reasons best known to themselves.TechnicalEphemera wrote:I have no idea, Miliband needs to get a grip and replace her with somebody competent.letsskiptotheleft wrote: Who deemed her the spokesperson for all things regarding Labour?
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You're welcome AHindleA wrote:PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Evening All
Just a reminder of this excellent tool
http://vis.oobrien.com/indyref/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
which predicts results in East Lothian (narrowly No) and North Lanarkshire (narrowly Yes) at 2.00 am
Insofar as we know anything about this vote these look like interesting early indicators.
Thanks for that.
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One for Clegg non-fans:
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BBC calling E Lothian as firmly no (see above)
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BBC Politics @BBCPolitics 20s
First Minister Alex Salmond cancels appearance at own #indyref count, @bbcnickrobinson says http://bbc.in/1AtI5RP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
First Minister Alex Salmond cancels appearance at own #indyref count, @bbcnickrobinson says http://bbc.in/1AtI5RP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Here we go:
and the BBC
(from the Scotsman)Craig Fowler:
Police have asked counters in Glasgow to remove some ballot papers after allegations of electoral fraud.
and the BBC
Editor of The Herald, Magnus Llewellin: BREAKING: Allegations of electoral fraud in Glasgow. Allegations of double vote impersonation in Glasgow #indyref
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Ten papers apparently.....Eric_WLothian wrote:Here we go:
(from the Scotsman)Craig Fowler:
Police have asked counters in Glasgow to remove some ballot papers after allegations of electoral fraud.
Not likely to swing it.
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Yes - he's confirmed that now.TechnicalEphemera wrote:Ten papers apparently.....Eric_WLothian wrote:Here we go:
(from the Scotsman)Craig Fowler:
Police have asked counters in Glasgow to remove some ballot papers after allegations of electoral fraud.
Not likely to swing it.
Craig Fowler:
More on the allegations of electoral fraud in Glasgow: apparently some people turned up to vote but were told that someone already had in their name. What I want to know is whether these fraudsters, after impersonating someone else, then tried to vote again using their own vote. And, if so, did they just come back ten minutes later wearing a hat or fake moustache?
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Ah but if ballots have been fixed it depends were they no's or yes' because it will play into the narrative tomorrow. there are already crazy rumours about secret service fixing the vote.TechnicalEphemera wrote:Ten papers apparently.....Eric_WLothian wrote:Here we go:
(from the Scotsman)Craig Fowler:
Police have asked counters in Glasgow to remove some ballot papers after allegations of electoral fraud.
Not likely to swing it.
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I think we can be pretty certain that if the secret service have fixed the vote we will never find out.Temulkar wrote:Ah but if ballots have been fixed it depends were they no's or yes' because it will play into the narrative tomorrow. there are already crazy rumours about secret service fixing the vote.TechnicalEphemera wrote:Ten papers apparently.....Eric_WLothian wrote:Here we go:
(from the Scotsman)
Not likely to swing it.
Besides they are all too busy gawping at people's naked webcam sessions.
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Too much to hope for her to publicly chastise Cameron?BBC Politics@BBCPolitics
The Queen is expected to issue written statement on #indyref result on Friday afternoon bbc.in/1AtI5RP
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''No'' sources confident of winning Aberdeenshire, Salmond's stomping ground.
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''No'' sources confident of winning Aberdeenshire, Salmond's stomping ground.
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Early days, but looking ok for the union. Cameron of course is screwed either way. Expect a non announcement on a policy that will rapidly become an ambition in the Tory party manifesto (when Clegg tells him to piss off).
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12% lead for 'no' in Clacks
"No" wins by 19,036 to 16,350. The total number of ballots was 35,410, a turnout of 88.6%.
"No" wins by 19,036 to 16,350. The total number of ballots was 35,410, a turnout of 88.6%.
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Clackmananshire votes No by 54 to 46
Was expected to be Yes
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Errrr 8% ?Eric_WLothian wrote:12% lead for 'no' in Clacks
"No" wins by 19,036 to 16,350. The total number of ballots was 35,410, a turnout of 88.6%.
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BBC biasPaulfromYorkshire wrote:Errrr 8% ?Eric_WLothian wrote:12% lead for 'no' in Clacks
"No" wins by 19,036 to 16,350. The total number of ballots was 35,410, a turnout of 88.6%.
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What happens if the papers go up in smoke?Craig Fowler:
Multiple sources are reporting that the Dundee count has been interrupted by a fire alarm which caused everyone to evacuate the building
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Good grief, Robinson desperate to play down GB's contribution. Very amusing to see both Yes and No women looking very unimpressed at Little Nicky's efforts.
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Posted at 01:43
So it's a special congratulations to the 7 people in Clackmannanshire who voted both 'yes' and 'no'.
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Glasgow turnout 75%
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One of the few reliable ways of spoiling a ballot paper. That or leave it blank.Eric_WLothian wrote:Douglas Fraser
Business and economy editor, Scotland
Posted at 01:43
So it's a special congratulations to the 7 people in Clackmannanshire who voted both 'yes' and 'no'.
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East Renfrewshire over 90% turnout and a "big win"for No.
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Orkney
Yes: 4,883
No: 10,004
Rejected: 20
Meanwhile, thunder rumbling around in leafy SW London and dashing rain...
Yes: 4,883
No: 10,004
Rejected: 20
Meanwhile, thunder rumbling around in leafy SW London and dashing rain...
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Surely he could go to the count, thank the troops and declare victory by dint of having secured more powers for Scotland - plus he made Cameron look like a muppet.RobertSnozers wrote:Seriously?? This is the Leader of the Yes campaign is it not?BBC Political Editor Nick Robinson: Aides to @AlexSalmond insist that he has not cancelled appearance at his count. They say he was not going in the first place
What is he playing at - it isn't like he wanted to win.
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Can anybody here confirm if this is indeed bad news for Ed Miliband?
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Yes but if No wins 80/20 he can then laugh at Cameron for being tricked into giving away concessions by his piscine genius.RobertSnozers wrote:The only thing that would make it look like a defeat for Salmond is if a larger than expected No vote was returned. I think even Salmond would struggle to spin securing more powers for Scotland in that up until yesterday he was dismissing what the Westminster parties had been offering in no uncertain terms. Then again, this is Salmond we're talking about.TechnicalEphemera wrote:Surely he could go to the count, thank the troops and declare victory by dint of having secured more powers for Scotland - plus he made Cameron look like a muppet.RobertSnozers wrote: Seriously?? This is the Leader of the Yes campaign is it not?
What is he playing at - it isn't like he wanted to win.
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Fog cited on Radio 4 for non appearance of Salmond.Both yes and no sources pointing at 60/40 split for No in East Lothian.
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It is indeed bad news for Ed Miliband, TE. After all votes have been counted in two of the thirty-two areas voting in this Referendum I can confirm that there has not been one single vote either for Ed Miliband or, indeed, for the Labour Party.TechnicalEphemera wrote:Can anybody here confirm if this is indeed bad news for Ed Miliband?
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Aha, I had assumed as much.LadyCentauria wrote:It is indeed bad news for Ed Miliband, TE. After all votes have been counted in two of the thirty-two areas voting in this Referendum I can confirm that there has not been one single vote either for Ed Miliband or, indeed, for the Labour Party.TechnicalEphemera wrote:Can anybody here confirm if this is indeed bad news for Ed Miliband?
Good to know in these uncertain times some things are constant. In Ed's house it is always Bad News o'clock.
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91% turnout in East Dunbartonshire.
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What is this obsession with who wins a count - the concept of narrowly missing out? It isn't an electoral college all the votes get summed.
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Meanwhile, it is rumoured that David Cameron received at least one vote by virtue of someone writing-in a vote for him. At least, it looks like a drawing of him. In a kilt. With a fish, pointing.TechnicalEphemera wrote:Aha, I had assumed as much.LadyCentauria wrote:It is indeed bad news for Ed Miliband, TE. After all votes have been counted in two of the thirty-two areas voting in this Referendum I can confirm that there has not been one single vote either for Ed Miliband or, indeed, for the Labour Party.TechnicalEphemera wrote:Can anybody here confirm if this is indeed bad news for Ed Miliband?
Good to know in these uncertain times some things are constant. In Ed's house it is always Bad News o'clock.
And we have to leave this item for the voting from Eilean Siar
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Right - good luck to the hardened souls staying with it. I am done.
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LadyCentauria wrote:Meanwhile, it is rumoured that David Cameron received at least one vote by virtue of someone writing-in a vote for him. At least, it looks like a drawing of him. In a kilt. With a fish, pointing.TechnicalEphemera wrote:Aha, I had assumed as much.LadyCentauria wrote: It is indeed bad news for Ed Miliband, TE. After all votes have been counted in two of the thirty-two areas voting in this Referendum I can confirm that there has not been one single vote either for Ed Miliband or, indeed, for the Labour Party.
Good to know in these uncertain times some things are constant. In Ed's house it is always Bad News o'clock.
And we have to leave this item for the voting from Eilean Siar... later
Or rather, if there was not already such a rumour there is now Goodnight, TE
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Expected "comfortable win" in Dundee will be bad news for EM - (Guardian) if that helps
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Night TE
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Shetland
Yes: 5,669
No: 9,951
Yes: 5,669
No: 9,951
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RobertSnozers wrote:Yesser narrative on Twitter seems to be that any Yes majorities in Labour areas will be bad for Labour. Why? It's not as though they're all suddenly rabid SNP supporters. This is a very one-off issue.
Oblique attack on the party because Gordon Brown pulled so much back in the last few days?
Many pundits mistaking the propensity to support SNP as,equivalent to supporting independence,not such a simplistic equivalence,Aberdeenshire for example historically has never been particularly pro independence despite regularly returning SNP MP/MSP's.
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Thanks M'LadyLadyCentauria wrote:Shetland
Yes: 5,669
No: 9,951
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Also the assumption that a high turnout favoured the Yes campaign may very well have been proven misplaced.
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Eilean Siar (Western Isles) 19, 758
Yes: 9.195
No: 10,544
This surprises me, I would have thought higher for Yes...
Yes: 9.195
No: 10,544
This surprises me, I would have thought higher for Yes...
This time, I'm gonna be stronger I'm not giving in...