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Re: Thursday 2nd April 2015

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ohsocynical wrote:Farage will have upset the Scots because he said tax payer are fed up seeing all the money going across Hadrians wall.
Yup, Hadrian's wall is nowhere near Scotland.
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Re: Thursday 2nd April 2015

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NHS now.
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Sturgeon doing well I think.
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Re: Thursday 2nd April 2015

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This is all a bit of a dog's dinner. The MC has no authority. It's like watching someone trying to herd cats.
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ohsocynical wrote:The women shouted Ed down !!!!!
All of them? Why? Is Ed getting the chance to say anything or the chance to get his point across? Or is he getting lost in the crowd?
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This is unwatchable.

Everyone loses.
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He's just brought up Ivan again. Dick :fire:
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F. Says about middle management. Stop parking charges.

Sturgeon says. Not for private profit. it poses a risk to Scottish health service.

Bennet. says. Profit motive has no place in health care. Want free prescriptions etc.

Clegg. Says it needs hard cash. Can't listen to him !!!!!!

Plaid...Said Wales introduced the NHS. Think she meant Bevan. Wants more doctors.

Ed. What he's said in the manifesto. Money from tobacco companies.

Cameron. Oh here we go Ivan!!!!
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Re: Thursday 2nd April 2015

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The "Dad of a disabled child" thing again. He has no shame.
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SpinningHugo wrote:This is unwatchable.

Everyone loses.
Yeah, it's why I can't watch it!
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refitman wrote:He's just brought up Ivan again. Dick :fire:
:fire: :fire:
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ohsocynical wrote:asking Cameron where the welfare cuts are going to be?
And he very slyly said "Well look we found £21bn of cuts" as if that was the answer.
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RogerOThornhill wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:asking Cameron where the welfare cuts are going to be?
And he very slyly said "Well look we found £21bn of cuts" as if that was the answer.
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Why do I get the impression this 7 way debate is a waste of time? This is thanks to Cameron and the broadcasters caving in to him. TGS had the right idea, we'd all be better off watching The Big Bang Theory. Sounds like it'd be more insightful. :wall:
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I'm following this over a tinto in a bar in Seville in the middle of Semana Santa, surrounded by celebrating/mourning Andalusians, and I'm hooked on the blogging here. Keep it up!

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Edited due to tinto. Twice *hic*
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I can see you're all busy watching the debate, so when it's finished, if someone could give me an idea of how Ed did, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks :)
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Re: Thursday 2nd April 2015

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I wish I had watched Endeavor instead of this.
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JustMom wrote:I wish I had watched Endeavor instead of this.
That bad, eh?
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Hobiejoe wrote:I'm following this over a tinto in a bar in Seville in the middle of Semana Santa, surrounded by celebrating/mourning Andulusians, and I'm hooked on the blogging here. Keep it up!

Cheers,

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Edited due to tinto.
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BTW, the previous post was more a comment on the blogging than the quality of the actual debate.
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daydreamer wrote:I can see you're all busy watching the debate, so when it's finished, if someone could give me an idea of how Ed did, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks :)
Unless you take that wavy line thing as the sole indicator, I think it's impossible to tell although, as someone has already observed, Nicola Sturgeon is coming over well.
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Clegg is winning the brass neck award.

Farage is nasty nasty nasty.
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Cameron on about 7 days a week to see a doctor. Oh and labour cut NHS funding to Wales

Farage says again. On about immigrants not getting health care

Bennet arguing against that.

Miliband saying about cancer lagging behind

Cam saying cancer treatment one of the best in Europe.

Sturgeon says Farage blames every thing on foreigners.

Plaid- sorry I've forgotten her name...Blames Labour for Wales lack of funds.

Ed attacking Cameron's broken promises.

Bennett blaming Cameron.

Farage now on about HIV immigrants coming here and getting treatment.

Plaid to give her credit told Farage he's disgraceful.
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Drinking out of water vases.
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Cameron. Brought up drinking out of flower vases.
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I have to say, the feared Plaid+Green+SNP vs Labour hasn't really happened yet. They have mostly been concentrating on Cameron & Clegg.
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mid staffs/drinking out of vases bollocks
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PorFavor wrote:
daydreamer wrote:I can see you're all busy watching the debate, so when it's finished, if someone could give me an idea of how Ed did, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks :)
Unless you take that wavy line thing as the sole indicator, I think it's impossible to tell although, as someone has already observed, Nicola Sturgeon is coming over well.
Wavy line :?: Sorry PF, you've lost me. :?
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57 mins - Mid Staffs. TW*T
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Cameron Labour bankrupted the country.
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Christ there are some dim people on Twitter.
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refitman wrote:
Hobiejoe wrote:I'm following this over a tinto in a bar in Seville in the middle of Semana Santa, surrounded by celebrating/mourning Andulusians, and I'm hooked on the blogging here. Keep it up!

Cheers,

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Edited due to tinto.
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ohsocynical wrote:Cameron. Brought up drinking out of flower vases.
Ha! That's what I meant, but I garbled it,
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Bennett free social care to everyone over 65

Cam on about 7 days a week to see GP.

Ed said Cam promised it last time and didn't do it.
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cameron seems to be getting more time than everyone else and the mc has cut ed off twice.
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refitman wrote:I have to say, the feared Plaid+Green+SNP vs Labour hasn't really happened yet. They have mostly been concentrating on Cameron & Clegg.
Glad that it hasn't (how much longer to go?). Not sure I like the fact that Sturgeon is coming over well, probably means more votes in Scotland for the SNP. I don't care if that makes me sound tribal.
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Oh, super. Immigration next. I can't wait to hear Nigel Farage's views on this. Hitherto, he's been fairly silent on the subject.
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@Ernst: David Cameron says that there are GP surgeries open 8am to 8pm seven-days a week "some of them even here in the North-West." Have you seen one? Because I haven't, in my part of leafy SW London since they closed down the Walk-In Centre at the Junction, shortly after it had opened. And I don't think it offered all those hours, anyway...
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ohsocynical wrote:Cameron Labour bankrupted the country.
You're all doing a great job blogging, but isn't Ed saying anything at all? Is he getting a chance to counter the lies?
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daydreamer wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
daydreamer wrote:I can see you're all busy watching the debate, so when it's finished, if someone could give me an idea of how Ed did, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks :)
Unless you take that wavy line thing as the sole indicator, I think it's impossible to tell although, as someone has already observed, Nicola Sturgeon is coming over well.
Wavy line :?: Sorry PF, you've lost me. :?
There's an audience reaction moving line (like a clap-ometer, only different) on the screen.

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I think only floating voters in the audience have access to the gismo.
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And Cameron said that "we" uncovered Mid Staffs!

He really is such a liar. Worse than a CiF troll.
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frightful_oik wrote:cameron seems to be getting more time than everyone else and the mc has cut ed off twice.
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LadyCentauria wrote:@Ernst: David Cameron says that there are GP surgeries open 8am to 8pm seven-days a week "some of them even here in the North-West." Have you seen one? Because I haven't, in my part of leafy SW London since they closed down the Walk-In Centre at the Junction, shortly after it had opened. And I don't think it offered all those hours, anyway...
Dont think he's meaning GPs as we thought. He was on about a hospital just down the road working 7 days a week... :lol:
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If YouGov put this as a Cameron win, well... :rofl:
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daydreamer wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Cameron Labour bankrupted the country.
You're all doing a great job blogging, but isn't Ed saying anything at all? Is he getting a chance to counter the lies?
He's responding to all the Q's as we expected he would. Measured, calm and addressing the points.
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PorFavor wrote:Oh, super. Immigration next. I can't wait to hear Nigel Farage's views on this. Hitherto, he's been fairly silent on the subject.

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PorFavor wrote:
daydreamer wrote:
PorFavor wrote: Unless you take that wavy line thing as the sole indicator, I think it's impossible to tell although, as someone has already observed, Nicola Sturgeon is coming over well.
Wavy line :?: Sorry PF, you've lost me. :?
There's an audience reaction moving line (like a clap-ometer, only different) on the screen.

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I think only floating voters in the audience have access to the gismo.
Ah, thanks :)
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refitman wrote:
daydreamer wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:Cameron Labour bankrupted the country.
You're all doing a great job blogging, but isn't Ed saying anything at all? Is he getting a chance to counter the lies?
He's responding to all the Q's as we expected he would. Measured, calm and addressing the points.
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Miliband improving, Sturgeon has been very impressive.
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On Farage and "HIV furriners shouldn't come here":
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