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Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 8:15 pm

Cybenat logic.

- We're getting lots of working class voters?
- Sure. But what have you actually done for them, as opposed to the middle class?
- So those people are stupid are they?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 8:17 pm

Ashdown said: "The SNP has got one aim. They're are not coming south to help Westminster work. They are coming south as a Scottish raiding party to burn Westminster down and to make the thing dysfunctional. I watched this happen in the Balkans by the way, you first of all make it dysfunctional and then you have a case for breaking away, that's what their aim is."http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03 ... 67228.html

So basically exactly what the ConDems have been doing with the NHS.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 8:41 pm

Sturgeon inquiry piece is up to over 5000 comments! The number of Labour blaming comments doesn't reflect well upon the nats.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 8:45 pm

Ed Miliband exclusive: Labour leader talks candidly about Bedroom Tax, "hell, yes" and Easter eggs

(....and for us Ed nice picky lovers some nice piccys! lol)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ed ... er-5461120" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"But he brought sniggers from a studio audience when he answered “hell, yes” to a Jeremy Paxman question on whether he was tough enough .
Mr Miliband said: “If that had been scripted I would never have said it. It just came out in the moment.”

Any regrets about that?

“Hell, no,” he said "

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 8:45 pm

StephenDolan wrote:Sturgeon inquiry piece is up to over 5000 comments! The number of Labour blaming comments doesn't reflect well upon the nats.

A lot of posts from who knows who

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 8:46 pm

StephenDolan wrote:Sturgeon inquiry piece is up to over 5000 comments! The number of Labour blaming comments doesn't reflect well upon the nats.

Unfortunately many seem to be completely barking. It does seem to be rather cultish. I had to ban myself from reading btl in scottish articles a couple of years ago as it wasn't good for the soul.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 8:46 pm

Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 29m29 minutes ago
I believe the Sun on Sunday has a belter this evening. Keep an eye on @DavidWooding's tweets.

I'm sure we're all going to absolutely love this 'belter'.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 8:47 pm

I've been reading "What a Carve Up" by Jonathan Coe and I have come to the conclusion that I'm fed up with Tories, especially the toff ones. Get this:

'The trick is to keep doing outrageous things. There's no point in passing some scandalous piece of legislation and then giving everyone time to get worked up about it. You have to get right in there and top it with something even worse, before the public have had a chance to work out what's hit them.'

1994 that book was written. It could have been written yesterday. I could get people maybe being fooled by Cameron's modernisation make-over, hug a huskie bollocks, but now....? They'll never change. Why do people keep voting for them?

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 8:54 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:Sturgeon inquiry piece is up to over 5000 comments! The number of Labour blaming comments doesn't reflect well upon the nats.
Unfortunately many seem to be completely barking. It does seem to be rather cultish. I had to ban myself from reading btl in scottish articles a couple of years ago as it wasn't good for the soul.

Less IrnBru, more Kool-aid

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:03 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 29m29 minutes ago
I believe the Sun on Sunday has a belter this evening. Keep an eye on @DavidWooding's tweets.
I'm sure we're all going to absolutely love this 'belter'.

Wooding was that bloke who kept going on about the "best newsroom in the world" when the NOTW was closed.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:04 pm

David Aaronovitch ‏@DAaronovitch 54m54 minutes ago
Three possibilities: Nicola said it, Nicola said something else that was mistaken for it, someone made it all up. The last is most unlikely.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:09 pm

StephenDolan wrote:Sturgeon’s message to Miliband: will you help us remove the Tories from power?

http://gu.com/p/479xa" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

' I’d like to address the matter of the leaked UK government memo about my meeting with the French ambassador. This story has already been shown to be 100% untrue – having been comprehensively rejected by both the French ambassador and consul general. '

Jesus she has got some front.

Which party recently governed along side the Conservatives?

The SNP absolutely are the enemy, but the UK campaign needs to disconnect from Scotland and go back to fighting the main event.

Leave Murphy the job of fighting the Nats. As for Sturgeon's letter, which could have been crafted by Cameron, best ignored.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:12 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:Sturgeon’s message to Miliband: will you help us remove the Tories from power?

http://gu.com/p/479xa" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

' I’d like to address the matter of the leaked UK government memo about my meeting with the French ambassador. This story has already been shown to be 100% untrue – having been comprehensively rejected by both the French ambassador and consul general. '
Jesus she has got some front.

Which party recently governed along side the Conservatives?

The SNP absolutely are the enemy, but the UK campaign needs to disconnect from Scotland and go back to fighting the main event.

Leave Murphy the job of fighting the Nats. As for Sturgeon's letter, which could have been crafted by Cameron, best ignored.

I think she's been done over by a leak of something she didn't say (though lots of Nats think that, she might too) and Labour jumped in too quickly. She's within her rights to have a go back.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:20 pm

It's not like Ed Miliband to speak precipitously. It's not characteristic of him to do so. I'm therefore more inclined to give credibility to his words.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:22 pm

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TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:23 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:Sturgeon’s message to Miliband: will you help us remove the Tories from power?

http://gu.com/p/479xa" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

' I’d like to address the matter of the leaked UK government memo about my meeting with the French ambassador. This story has already been shown to be 100% untrue – having been comprehensively rejected by both the French ambassador and consul general. '
Jesus she has got some front.

Which party recently governed along side the Conservatives?

The SNP absolutely are the enemy, but the UK campaign needs to disconnect from Scotland and go back to fighting the main event.

Leave Murphy the job of fighting the Nats. As for Sturgeon's letter, which could have been crafted by Cameron, best ignored.
I think she's been done over by a leak of something she didn't say (though lots of Nats think that, she might too) and Labour jumped in too quickly. She's within her rights to have a go back.

I think you give her far too much credit. We know the note exists, given the lack of Civil Service comment it seems highly likely it says what The Telegraph claimed. Against that we have the flat denials by people with a vested interest in denying it. Unless you wish to believe civil servants make this stuff up. As posted above there are three possibilities the last is by far the least likely.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:23 pm

citizenJA wrote:It's not like Ed Miliband to speak precipitously. It's not characteristic of him to do so. I'm therefore more inclined to give credibility to his words.

Scottish Labour had already steamed in. He couldn't really not.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:25 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:
citizenJA wrote:It's not like Ed Miliband to speak precipitously. It's not characteristic of him to do so. I'm therefore more inclined to give credibility to his words.
Scottish Labour had already steamed in. He couldn't really not.

Would Cameron have used it if he thought it was a fake?

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:26 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote: I think you give her far too much credit. We know the note exists, given the lack of Civil Service comment it seems highly likely it says what The Telegraph claimed. Against that we have the flat denials by people with a vested interest in denying it. Unless you wish to believe civil servants make this stuff up. As posted above there are three possibilities the last is by far the least likely.

Think memo's probably genuined, but that someone got the wrong end of the stick.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:30 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
citizenJA wrote:It's not like Ed Miliband to speak precipitously. It's not characteristic of him to do so. I'm therefore more inclined to give credibility to his words.
Scottish Labour had already steamed in. He couldn't really not.
Would Cameron have used it if he thought it was a fake?

It's a nice dig at Miliband while Labour focussed on SNP.

I think she might have said that bit.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:41 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote: I think you give her far too much credit. We know the note exists, given the lack of Civil Service comment it seems highly likely it says what The Telegraph claimed. Against that we have the flat denials by people with a vested interest in denying it. Unless you wish to believe civil servants make this stuff up. As posted above there are three possibilities the last is by far the least likely.
Think memo's probably genuined, but that someone got the wrong end of the stick.

That is just possible, but the non-denial denial with its very careful choice of words, looks awfully like a fallback position.

We will never know.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:48 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
citizenJA wrote:It's not like Ed Miliband to speak precipitously. It's not characteristic of him to do so. I'm therefore more inclined to give credibility to his words.
Scottish Labour had already steamed in. He couldn't really not.
Would Cameron have used it if he thought it was a fake?

Oh yes. Definitely. When has he ever checked his facts? And look at the debate the other night. The note saying all the money's gone, and drinking out of flower vases...

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:49 pm

There's some cracking headlines...

http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/front-pages.cfm

May in a bit of bother, Farage burying a poll showing he's gonna lose...and some dim voters who think that the Tories are best for workers.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:49 pm

We won't ever know. So think better of Labour to say "we suspect, but we'll wait and see, we want to talk about policy".

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:53 pm

Susan Press retweeted
Sunder Katwala ‏@sundersays 5 mins5 minutes ago

Mail on Sunday splash:
UKIP commissioned South Thanet poll which shows Cons first, and Labour close behind UKIP in race for 2nd

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:55 pm

Ian ‏@Mancman10 4 mins4 minutes ago Manchester, England
New polls post debate:

Surv: LAB 33 CON 31 UKIP 18 LD 9 GRN 3
Opin: LAB 33 CON 33 UKIP 14 LD 7 GRN 7
YGov: CON 34 LAB 33 UKIP 13 LD 10 GRN 4

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:55 pm

Mail now going after Fargle?

The readers aren't going to like that. Shows how favours from Cameron more important than sales.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:55 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:There's some cracking headlines...

http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/front-pages.cfm

May in a bit of bother, Farage burying a poll showing he's gonna lose...and some dim voters who think that the Tories are best for workers.

Bloody hell, the Kipper are trumpeting their wisdom index on the front page. With that and the Steptoe article, they really are getting desperate.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:57 pm

Mike Watts retweeted
Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 12 mins12 minutes ago

Farage confirms he’s had talks with Tories who won’t let Cameron give Clegg control of the referendum question “under any circumstances”

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 9:59 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Mike Watts retweeted
Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 12 mins12 minutes ago

Farage confirms he’s had talks with Tories who won’t let Cameron give Clegg control of the referendum question “under any circumstances”

I was a bit sarcy on Twitter, but that could be interesting. Lib Dems not going with Tories and they're really stuck. No referendum, self-destruct.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:02 pm

refitman wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:There's some cracking headlines...

http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/front-pages.cfm

May in a bit of bother, Farage burying a poll showing he's gonna lose...and some dim voters who think that the Tories are best for workers.

Bloody hell, the Kipper are trumpeting their wisdom index on the front page. With that and the Steptoe article, they really are getting desperate.

An 80s-style boom eh?

I seem to recall that didn't end well...

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:05 pm

Dr Éoin Clarke ‏@LabourEoin 2 mins2 minutes ago
Change in Labour v Tories polls since #LeadersDebate

Survation - Labour +1%
YouGov - Labour +1%
Opinium - Labour +1%

Well done Ed Miliband

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:07 pm

David Wooding ‏@DavidWooding 2m2 minutes ago
Secrets of Ed Miliband's TV debates crib sheet, and his motivational notes, revealed in Sun on Sunday tomorrow and @SunNation.

There you go - told you we were all going to love this 'belter'.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:09 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
David Wooding ‏@DavidWooding 2m2 minutes ago
Secrets of Ed Miliband's TV debates crib sheet, and his motivational notes, revealed in Sun on Sunday tomorrow and @SunNation.
There you go - told you we were all going to love this 'belter'.

Really, how much of that will the Sun make up?

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:10 pm

That Murdoch is a nasty spiteful little man isn't he.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:10 pm

Thanet South poll is reportedly Tory 31 UKIP 30 Labour 29 - until now I have never really thought Scobie was in with a chance there

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:11 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
David Wooding ‏@DavidWooding 2m2 minutes ago
Secrets of Ed Miliband's TV debates crib sheet, and his motivational notes, revealed in Sun on Sunday tomorrow and @SunNation.
There you go - told you we were all going to love this 'belter'.

If they haven't caught him on camera looking at the notes during the debate (and no-one else seems to have noticed) then it's a waste of time.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:13 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
David Wooding ‏@DavidWooding 2m2 minutes ago
Secrets of Ed Miliband's TV debates crib sheet, and his motivational notes, revealed in Sun on Sunday tomorrow and @SunNation.
There you go - told you we were all going to love this 'belter'.
If they haven't caught him on camera looking at the notes during the debate (and no-one else seems to have noticed) then it's a waste of time.

Presumably they paid somebody to lift them from somewhere. I don't imagine they will say much, a bunch of tedious facts and figures, and notes like look at camera - mention xyz, don't do abc.

No doubt the Sun will spin for all it is worth.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:26 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote: There you go - told you we were all going to love this 'belter'.
If they haven't caught him on camera looking at the notes during the debate (and no-one else seems to have noticed) then it's a waste of time.
Presumably they paid somebody to lift them from somewhere. I don't imagine they will say much, a bunch of tedious facts and figures, and notes like look at camera - mention xyz, don't do abc.

No doubt the Sun will spin for all it is worth.

James Manning ‏@JamesManning 14m14 minutes ago
Miliband's motivational debate notes were left behind in his dressing room on Thursday. The Sun on Sunday and @SunNation have them.

Bit sloppy if they were really left behind.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:34 pm

' Nicola Sturgeon offers new deal to help Ed Miliband into No 10 '

How very good of her. I'm hoping for a slim Labour minority / majority where the SNP MPs have to walk the walk after what Sturgeon has been saying. It could be an interesting dynamic between Salmond and Sturgeon leading up to 2016 Scottish elections.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:37 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote: If they haven't caught him on camera looking at the notes during the debate (and no-one else seems to have noticed) then it's a waste of time.
Presumably they paid somebody to lift them from somewhere. I don't imagine they will say much, a bunch of tedious facts and figures, and notes like look at camera - mention xyz, don't do abc.

No doubt the Sun will spin for all it is worth.

James Manning ‏@JamesManning 14m14 minutes ago
Miliband's motivational debate notes were left behind in his dressing room on Thursday. The Sun on Sunday and @SunNation have them.
Bit sloppy if they were really left behind.

Probably, but the studio should destroy them rather than just turn everything out. I suspect they weren't quite left behind. The Labour leaders security does seem oddly lacking though, he should have a proper security detail to do this stuff.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:38 pm

mummikins retweeted
Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 52 mins52 minutes ag0
EXC:

Nigel Farage tells Sunday Times six more Tory MPs set to defect to Ukip if Cameron tries another coalition with Lib Dems.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:39 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote: If they haven't caught him on camera looking at the notes during the debate (and no-one else seems to have noticed) then it's a waste of time.
Presumably they paid somebody to lift them from somewhere. I don't imagine they will say much, a bunch of tedious facts and figures, and notes like look at camera - mention xyz, don't do abc.

No doubt the Sun will spin for all it is worth.

James Manning ‏@JamesManning 14m14 minutes ago
Miliband's motivational debate notes were left behind in his dressing room on Thursday. The Sun on Sunday and @SunNation have them.
Bit sloppy if they were really left behind.

It's pathetic. Here's a link to the front page: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBxzR3VW0AI37xp.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:39 pm

StephenDolan wrote:' Nicola Sturgeon offers new deal to help Ed Miliband into No 10 '

How very good of her. I'm hoping for a slim Labour minority / majority where the SNP MPs have to walk the walk after what Sturgeon has been saying. It could be an interesting dynamic between Salmond and Sturgeon leading up to 2016 Scottish elections.

Yeah, that would be my favourite too. Out of reach though.

Tish · Post by **Tish** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:48 pm

ohsocynical wrote:mummikins retweeted
Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 52 mins52 minutes ag0
EXC:

Nigel Farage tells Sunday Times six more Tory MPs set to defect to Ukip if Cameron tries another coalition with Lib Dems.

How on earth would that work? They'd be elected as Tory and then switch to UKIP a week later? Or we'd have a string of by-elections just weeks after a general election? And Cameron claims Labour would bring chaos.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:48 pm

refitman wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote: Presumably they paid somebody to lift them from somewhere. I don't imagine they will say much, a bunch of tedious facts and figures, and notes like look at camera - mention xyz, don't do abc.

No doubt the Sun will spin for all it is worth.

James Manning ‏@JamesManning 14m14 minutes ago
Miliband's motivational debate notes were left behind in his dressing room on Thursday. The Sun on Sunday and @SunNation have them.
Bit sloppy if they were really left behind.
It's pathetic. Here's a link to the front page: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBxzR3VW0AI37xp.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Woah, hold the front page....

What a waste, the Mail did it better.

Post by **adam** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 10:58 pm

Tish wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:mummikins retweeted
Tim Shipman ‏@ShippersUnbound 52 mins52 minutes ag0
EXC:

Nigel Farage tells Sunday Times six more Tory MPs set to defect to Ukip if Cameron tries another coalition with Lib Dems.
How on earth would that work? They'd be elected as Tory and then switch to UKIP a week later? Or we'd have a string of by-elections just weeks after a general election? And Cameron claims Labour would bring chaos.

There's a good piece by Nick Cohen on the Guardian site on Europe and Tory chaos ...

The Tories European problem will bring chaos

Cameron’s decision to hold a referendum on Europe in 2017, should the Tories win, will bring political, constitutional and economic chaos, which will continue into the 2020s. I suspect he is bailing out because he knows it all too well.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 11:06 pm

Some time ago I read a blog about Scottish LA debt. Been looking for it and can't find it now (it was called something like Scotland's black hole bombshell), but this from the Guardian is along similar lines.
The blog had much more details and expressed the opinion that Scotland could be in trouble, I don't understand finances on this scale but it was something to do with writing the debt forward(?)

"Scottish councils pile up record debt
Labour attacks Scottish government for forcing authorities to borrow to offset cuts to funding from Holyrood"

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ecord-debt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If it all goes tits up are the whole UK responsible for picking up the tab ?

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 11:19 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote: If they haven't caught him on camera looking at the notes during the debate (and no-one else seems to have noticed) then it's a waste of time.
Presumably they paid somebody to lift them from somewhere. I don't imagine they will say much, a bunch of tedious facts and figures, and notes like look at camera - mention xyz, don't do abc.

No doubt the Sun will spin for all it is worth.

James Manning ‏@JamesManning 14m14 minutes ago
Miliband's motivational debate notes were left behind in his dressing room on Thursday. The Sun on Sunday and @SunNation have them.
Bit sloppy if they were really left behind.

Probably lifted from the dustbin - Murdoch's minions have form for hiring people to go through people's bins

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Sat 04 Apr, 2015 11:24 pm

RobertSnozers wrote:
Willow904 wrote:I've been reading "What a Carve Up" by Jonathan Coe and I have come to the conclusion that I'm fed up with Tories, especially the toff ones. Get this:

'The trick is to keep doing outrageous things. There's no point in passing some scandalous piece of legislation and then giving everyone time to get worked up about it. You have to get right in there and top it with something even worse, before the public have had a chance to work out what's hit them.'

1994 that book was written. It could have been written yesterday. I could get people maybe being fooled by Cameron's modernisation make-over, hug a huskie bollocks, but now....? They'll never change. Why do people keep voting for them?
That was exactly govt policy in 2010-11. You had the NHS White Paper, forest sell-off, cancelling the census, huge cuts to local government budgets, raising VAT, scrapping Harriers, Nimrods and aircraft carriers, privatising search and rescue, mass closure of coastguard stations, Extending Atos and WCA etc etc. I'm convinced the tactic was to bombard us with it while our heads were still spinning, and not give people time to focus on one thing in particular.

If you read Owen Jones' book on the Establishment he says this is precisely what they do. Remember all that fuss over Cameron's personal photographer? What were they slipping through while that was raging. They're masters of the squirrel.