Never say never.gilsey wrote:A rare article touching on one of my personal hobby horses.
Pitt’s rule for non-doms is only one tax that belongs in the dustbin of history
Heather Stewart
http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... of-history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;I would be very pleased if EdB announced on 8 May that the Mansion Tax would be temporary while they sorted out the council tax revaluation. Just Do It. (they won't)Margaret Thatcher’s deeply regressive poll tax, abandoned in the face of mass public protest, was replaced with a council tax based on 1991 property values. It was never completely proportional, but the intention was for regular revaluations, so that the tax would keep pace with house-price inflation.
Yet successive governments wary of upsetting a key demographic – the comfortable homeowner – have repeatedly failed to carry out revaluations, despite rocketing prices. As the Institute for Fiscal Studies’ authoritative Mirrlees Review of Britain’s tax system put it, “any revaluation inevitably creates losers and winners – and losers tend to be very vocal”. It called the failure to revalue council tax bands, “one of the most egregious demonstrations of the ‘tyranny of the status quo’ as a block to desirable change”.
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Have to say council tax revaluation does scare me.gilsey wrote:A rare article touching on one of my personal hobby horses.
Pitt’s rule for non-doms is only one tax that belongs in the dustbin of history
Heather Stewart
http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... of-history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;I would be very pleased if EdB announced on 8 May that the Mansion Tax would be temporary while they sorted out the council tax revaluation. Just Do It. (they won't)Margaret Thatcher’s deeply regressive poll tax, abandoned in the face of mass public protest, was replaced with a council tax based on 1991 property values. It was never completely proportional, but the intention was for regular revaluations, so that the tax would keep pace with house-price inflation.
Yet successive governments wary of upsetting a key demographic – the comfortable homeowner – have repeatedly failed to carry out revaluations, despite rocketing prices. As the Institute for Fiscal Studies’ authoritative Mirrlees Review of Britain’s tax system put it, “any revaluation inevitably creates losers and winners – and losers tend to be very vocal”. It called the failure to revalue council tax bands, “one of the most egregious demonstrations of the ‘tyranny of the status quo’ as a block to desirable change”.
Council tax is already our largest outgoing, apart from food at, over £1,300 a year for a tiny house.
A massive hike in it, which could happen under revaluation, could be crippling.
What should happen should only apply to new purchases, that would be fairer surely, and allow people to budget for an increase when they buy ?
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Had an amusing incident occur yesterday. Myself and Andrew (this year's local candidate) have decided to campaign for extra pedestrian crossings on the main road through the ward, it being a bugger to cross much of the time, particularly peak hours - not much fun if you're taking the kids to school. To this end we've been door knocking, but MsRemarx suggested we set up the ol' trestle table outside the Co-op at the top of the village and have people come to sign it - which they duly did. We did pretty well in the time we were there - although one particular idiot refused to sign as they were 'unnecessary', just prior to pressing the button to activate the pelican crossing behind her and scuttling across the road when the lights went to red. There's some very odd people about.
Any road, it was blowing a gale and bloody freezing, and MsRemarx had just dumped the WeeBundle on me as she was off leafletting elsewhere in her ward. I realised that having the WB standing around in the cold wan't a great idea, and Andrew then spotted a local asian Tory councillor whip across the road and into the wine bar. Odd, we thought, and in view of the weather decided to drop in there for a pint to see what was occurrin'.
It was like a vortex of darkness - three or four Tory councillors, the local MP (his skin is still grey), two ex Tory councillors (one of whom I beat in 2012 and another who lost his seat last year because of my protege's campaign in my ward) and a whole bunch of 'helpers', not one of whom looked under 60. Unintimidated, me and Andrew and the WB propped ourselves up at the bar (Guinness and San Miguel, if you must know) and enjoyed their discomfiture at our presence. They all stood very self consciously eating their little plates of sandwiches and drinking teas and coffees.
This all came to a screaming halt when the coffee machine behind the bar suddenly went BANG! in a very big way, complete with white flash and cloud of smoke. "No more coffees" said the girl behind the bar. I call that fate. Anyhow, it was time to drop Andrew in town (Ed Balls was around) so we finished our beers and I wished the assembled Tories a good branch meeting (subtle, I thought) and left.
Turns out they'd been out with Chris Grayling in my ward - what a bloody choice. If I find out where they were, I'll be out there this week knocking on doors and reminding people that it's because of him that people's chances of getting justice are pretty minimal and very expensive. Still, I suppose I should be flattered that they shipped him in....
Any road, it was blowing a gale and bloody freezing, and MsRemarx had just dumped the WeeBundle on me as she was off leafletting elsewhere in her ward. I realised that having the WB standing around in the cold wan't a great idea, and Andrew then spotted a local asian Tory councillor whip across the road and into the wine bar. Odd, we thought, and in view of the weather decided to drop in there for a pint to see what was occurrin'.
It was like a vortex of darkness - three or four Tory councillors, the local MP (his skin is still grey), two ex Tory councillors (one of whom I beat in 2012 and another who lost his seat last year because of my protege's campaign in my ward) and a whole bunch of 'helpers', not one of whom looked under 60. Unintimidated, me and Andrew and the WB propped ourselves up at the bar (Guinness and San Miguel, if you must know) and enjoyed their discomfiture at our presence. They all stood very self consciously eating their little plates of sandwiches and drinking teas and coffees.
This all came to a screaming halt when the coffee machine behind the bar suddenly went BANG! in a very big way, complete with white flash and cloud of smoke. "No more coffees" said the girl behind the bar. I call that fate. Anyhow, it was time to drop Andrew in town (Ed Balls was around) so we finished our beers and I wished the assembled Tories a good branch meeting (subtle, I thought) and left.
Turns out they'd been out with Chris Grayling in my ward - what a bloody choice. If I find out where they were, I'll be out there this week knocking on doors and reminding people that it's because of him that people's chances of getting justice are pretty minimal and very expensive. Still, I suppose I should be flattered that they shipped him in....
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Farage having an affair with Herman Von Rompuy?ohsocynical wrote:Pro EU & Labour retweeted
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Well I'm glad that George thinks the NHS staff are brilliant, ohso, something I'm pretty sure Jeremy has been doing lately. You don't suppose they'll be super or fabulous before electioneering is over, do you?ohsocynical wrote:THE ANDREW MARR SHOW
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LET'S FACE IT I'M JUST 'KIN' SEETHIN'
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Rumpy-pumpy?RogerOThornhill wrote:Farage having an affair with Herman Von Rompuy?ohsocynical wrote:Pro EU & Labour retweeted
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I would be really unhappy if Labour were to launch such a process, it is both politically difficult and economically unsound.gilsey wrote:A rare article touching on one of my personal hobby horses.
Pitt’s rule for non-doms is only one tax that belongs in the dustbin of history
Heather Stewart
http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... of-history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;I would be very pleased if EdB announced on 8 May that the Mansion Tax would be temporary while they sorted out the council tax revaluation. Just Do It. (they won't)Margaret Thatcher’s deeply regressive poll tax, abandoned in the face of mass public protest, was replaced with a council tax based on 1991 property values. It was never completely proportional, but the intention was for regular revaluations, so that the tax would keep pace with house-price inflation.
Yet successive governments wary of upsetting a key demographic – the comfortable homeowner – have repeatedly failed to carry out revaluations, despite rocketing prices. As the Institute for Fiscal Studies’ authoritative Mirrlees Review of Britain’s tax system put it, “any revaluation inevitably creates losers and winners – and losers tend to be very vocal”. It called the failure to revalue council tax bands, “one of the most egregious demonstrations of the ‘tyranny of the status quo’ as a block to desirable change”.
Council tax is a joke of a tax, revaluing it will do nothing to fix the problem. The assumption that house price inflation means we can all afford to pay more tax is flawed. In fact for many the opposite is the case, anybody buying a small house today has to spend a fortune and if interest rates go up they are screwed. Tenants of course don't even get the benefit of house inflation.
If we need to raise local taxes we need to find a better way. A local income tax, combined with a cut of any taxes levied on mansions.
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Do you remember Complan, citizen? It's probably still around. A sort of ready mix gruel for people with problems digesting.citizenJA wrote:Pick up a bottle of Balanced Plan today - a little dab will do 'yaOsborne struggles to explain how £8bn NHS pledge would be funded - live
"Osborne says NHS money would come from ‘balanced plan’'
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Unless it involves Farage, Miliband and Osborne with Natalie Rowe as a witness I ain't bothered.ohsocynical wrote:Rumpy-pumpy?RogerOThornhill wrote:Farage having an affair with Herman Von Rompuy?ohsocynical wrote:Pro EU & Labour retweeted
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John Rentoul, on the BBC, is more or less saying that he's always thought, and said, that Ed Miliband is a strong political figure. There's a lot of it about (although Dippy J remains immune thus far).
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Another avoidance method the Conservatives have perfected in their 5 years. I particularly loathe their use of 'I don't recognise those figures' ... to avoid any statistics that embarrass the hell out of them.RogerOThornhill wrote:Yes, "I don't accept that" has become the answer that actually means "Well, I know it is the case but saying this means I'm not telling a direct lie".citizenJA wrote:ANDREW MARR:
As Tory election strategist, you have just blown a huge hole in your own strategy by
making an £8 billion unfunded pledge on the NHS, exactly what you said you were
not going to do. Why?
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Well I don’t accept that at all.
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Or 'I won't take any lectures from Labour about....'rebeccariots2 wrote:Another avoidance method the Conservatives have perfected in their 5 years. I particularly loathe their use of 'I don't recognise those figures' ... to avoid any statistics that embarrass the hell out of them.RogerOThornhill wrote:Yes, "I don't accept that" has become the answer that actually means "Well, I know it is the case but saying this means I'm not telling a direct lie".citizenJA wrote:ANDREW MARR:
As Tory election strategist, you have just blown a huge hole in your own strategy by
making an £8 billion unfunded pledge on the NHS, exactly what you said you were
not going to do. Why?
GEORGE OSBORNE:
Well I don’t accept that at all.
The Lib Dems have picked them up as well.
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The ghastly Patricia Hewitt was responsible for that particular response, if I remember correctly.rebeccariots2 wrote:Another avoidance method the Conservatives have perfected in their 5 years. I particularly loathe their use of 'I don't recognise those figures' ... to avoid any statistics that embarrass the hell out of them.RogerOThornhill wrote:Yes, "I don't accept that" has become the answer that actually means "Well, I know it is the case but saying this means I'm not telling a direct lie".citizenJA wrote:ANDREW MARR:
As Tory election strategist, you have just blown a huge hole in your own strategy by
making an £8 billion unfunded pledge on the NHS, exactly what you said you were
not going to do. Why?
GEORGE OSBORNE:
Well I don’t accept that at all.
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The "I don't recognise that" one, I mean.
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Maybe Marr's attitude to Osborne was just fallout from the boatrace.
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Scrap the lot - only one is necessary - Land Value Tax (LVT)TechnicalEphemera wrote:I would be really unhappy if Labour were to launch such a process, it is both politically difficult and economically unsound.gilsey wrote:A rare article touching on one of my personal hobby horses.
Pitt’s rule for non-doms is only one tax that belongs in the dustbin of history
Heather Stewart
http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... of-history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;I would be very pleased if EdB announced on 8 May that the Mansion Tax would be temporary while they sorted out the council tax revaluation. Just Do It. (they won't)Margaret Thatcher’s deeply regressive poll tax, abandoned in the face of mass public protest, was replaced with a council tax based on 1991 property values. It was never completely proportional, but the intention was for regular revaluations, so that the tax would keep pace with house-price inflation.
Yet successive governments wary of upsetting a key demographic – the comfortable homeowner – have repeatedly failed to carry out revaluations, despite rocketing prices. As the Institute for Fiscal Studies’ authoritative Mirrlees Review of Britain’s tax system put it, “any revaluation inevitably creates losers and winners – and losers tend to be very vocal”. It called the failure to revalue council tax bands, “one of the most egregious demonstrations of the ‘tyranny of the status quo’ as a block to desirable change”.
Council tax is a joke of a tax, revaluing it will do nothing to fix the problem. The assumption that house price inflation means we can all afford to pay more tax is flawed. In fact for many the opposite is the case, anybody buying a small house today has to spend a fortune and if interest rates go up they are screwed. Tenants of course don't even get the benefit of house inflation.
If we need to raise local taxes we need to find a better way. A local income tax, combined with a cut of any taxes levied on mansions.
http://www.landvaluetax.org/
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I wish you hadn't reminded me of her. I've got that voice running round my head now.PorFavor wrote:The ghastly Patricia Hewitt was responsible for that particular response, if I remember correctly.rebeccariots2 wrote:Another avoidance method the Conservatives have perfected in their 5 years. I particularly loathe their use of 'I don't recognise those figures' ... to avoid any statistics that embarrass the hell out of them.RogerOThornhill wrote: Yes, "I don't accept that" has become the answer that actually means "Well, I know it is the case but saying this means I'm not telling a direct lie".
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The "I don't recognise that" one, I mean.
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I was going to say that thumbs up don't look like rowlocks to me, tinyclanger2, before realising that that wouldn't work given the winners.tinyclanger2 wrote:Maybe Marr's attitude to Osborne was just fallout from the boatrace.
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That's a bit insulting to those who might still want to support him.olivercoppard @olivercoppard 2 mins2 minutes ago
.@nick_clegg was 'too busy' to join the #bbcsp Sheffield Hallam debate this morning. This is what he's doing instead olivercoppard added,
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IFS statement on the IHT pledge by the Cons:
http://election2015.ifs.org.uk/article/ ... main-homes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://election2015.ifs.org.uk/article/ ... main-homes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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For Ernst:
Is that your PPC with him?Ed Balls @edballsmp 46m46 minutes ago
RT @JamesFrith: Thx to @edballsmp for supporting @SuperJCharity yesterday on visit to Bury North @DawnFidler
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Sounds like fun Ernst! Was WB on the Guinness of the San Miguel? *innocent whistle*
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Re. Grayling's whereabouts, does this help?
Rammy Conservatives @RammyTories · 20h20 hours ago
Today we welcomed Chris Grayling, Justice Secretary to #Tottington to support @DavidNuttallMP #BuryNorth
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Well the Tory isn't standing again. Long Eaton and Il'son are both pretty working class but the areas between are fairly posh. UKIP will be a worry here too as BNP have done well in the past. As polls stand it's a Labour gain.tinyclanger2 wrote:From the Clanger GE spreadsheet:
03:00 am Erewash currently Tory Majority 2501 (5.3%)
How is that looking on the ground frightful?
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Osborne & Marr:
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Did you notice this, pk1?pk1 wrote:IFS statement on the IHT pledge by the Cons:
http://election2015.ifs.org.uk/article/ ... main-homes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Can somebody please remind me of the stated purpose of the bedroom tax?The document lists a number of problems with the policy for example the fact that it would encourage investment in owner-occupied housing rather than other more productive investments and discourage downsizing late in life when that might otherwise be appropriate.
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I've got a sense the 'Clanger GE Spreadsheet' might prove to become as iconic an emblem as Peter Snow's swingometer .....
A giant leap in psephological technology for us FTNers
A giant leap in psephological technology for us FTNers
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To be fair to Clegg, I think he attended a mental health event there as well as bowling.
Not that he isn't running scared of Coppard.
Not that he isn't running scared of Coppard.
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Yup.rebeccariots2 wrote:For Ernst:Is that your PPC with him?Ed Balls @edballsmp 46m46 minutes ago
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Even so. It is his seat.yahyah wrote:To be fair to Clegg, I think he attended a mental health event there as well as bowling.
Not that he isn't running scared of Coppard.
I think it shows pretty clearly he's aware he hasn't a snowball's chance in hell of keeping it.
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The things you learn on Twitter.
Gove failed his driving test 7 times...
Gove failed his driving test 7 times...
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I think there's a fair chance I could literally explode with joy if Clegg gets ousted.ohsocynical wrote:Even so. It is his seat.yahyah wrote:To be fair to Clegg, I think he attended a mental health event there as well as bowling.
Not that he isn't running scared of Coppard.
I think it shows pretty clearly he's aware he hasn't a snowball's chance in hell of keeping it.
Could get very messy.
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Pouring down rain now.
I like it.
I like it.
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Beeky chugger! She was on pints of Creme de Menthe. That quote explians a lot, but not the perplexing phenomenon of David Nuttall's skin colour. I suspect that what I saw yesterday was the vast bulk of the Bury North Tories. Fairly typical of them to not choose a Totty pub, but rather a wine bar. Surprised they even chose that, given that there are a few garden centres in the area with tearooms attached where they'd probably have felt much more at home - and rather less likely to run into those horrid socialists.TheGrimSqueaker wrote:Sounds like fun Ernst! Was WB on the Guinness of the San Miguel? *innocent whistle*
Re. Grayling's whereabouts, does this help?
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Aaah. Feel free to have another Guinness on me.ErnstRemarx wrote:Yup.rebeccariots2 wrote:For Ernst:Is that your PPC with him?Ed Balls @edballsmp 46m46 minutes ago
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That doesn't surprise me one bit.ohsocynical wrote:The things you learn on Twitter.
Gove failed his driving test 7 times...
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Thank 'ee kindly - I actually sup San Miguel; Andrew's the Guinness lover, as his ample girth betrays rather unkindly.rebeccariots2 wrote:Aaah. Feel free to have another Guinness on me.ErnstRemarx wrote:Yup.rebeccariots2 wrote:For Ernst:Is that your PPC with him?
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I still can't quite believe Clegg will lose his seat, tbh. His absence today suggests he shares that point of view.
Of course he, and I, could be wrong......
Of course he, and I, could be wrong......
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Well, just take care to keep well clear of tinyclanger2's spreadsheet. It would be a shame to ruin it, even if it is for a good cause.yahyah wrote:I think there's a fair chance I could literally explode with joy if Clegg gets ousted.ohsocynical wrote:Even so. It is his seat.yahyah wrote:To be fair to Clegg, I think he attended a mental health event there as well as bowling.
Not that he isn't running scared of Coppard.
I think it shows pretty clearly he's aware he hasn't a snowball's chance in hell of keeping it.
Could get very messy.
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poliestertinyclanger2 wrote:refitman wrote:Unlike Ukip, who are having their stuff made in China.PorFavor wrote: Yes - I got one of those. And as I said the other day, I was pleased and relieved that they avoided the trap (and the possible dodgyness (is that a word?) of sweat-shop labour.
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Thanks for the replies on Cameron's tax status btw, I get the feeling with his sense of entitlement he'd try to get away with holding onto it.
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Never heard of it - I think the 'little dab will do 'ya' is from an old-fashioned hair oil advertisement.rebeccariots2 wrote:Do you remember Complan, citizen? It's probably still around. A sort of ready mix gruel for people with problems digesting.citizenJA wrote:Pick up a bottle of Balanced Plan today - a little dab will do 'yaOsborne struggles to explain how £8bn NHS pledge would be funded - live
"Osborne says NHS money would come from ‘balanced plan’'
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I'd completely missed the Engrish.diGriz wrote:poliester
Thanks for the replies on Cameron's tax status btw, I get the feeling with his sense of entitlement he'd try to get away with holding onto it.
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Nor me - he seems to make a habit of being useless at everything (says someone who passed first time).rebeccariots2 wrote:That doesn't surprise me one bit.ohsocynical wrote:The things you learn on Twitter.
Gove failed his driving test 7 times...
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Electoral Calculus has him with a 70% chance of keeping it - what's up with that?AnatolyKasparov wrote:I still can't quite believe Clegg will lose his seat, tbh. His absence today suggests he shares that point of view.
Of course he, and I, could be wrong......
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Loving Wales is not synonymous with voting Plaid.
That's what's so wrong with nationalism.
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Clear blue skies, but very windy so cold, here.citizenJA wrote:Pouring down rain now.
I like it.
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Talking of Gove...him and Toady support QPR (although I'd love to know if that's just a coincidence and whether Toady supports them just because Mikey does).
88th minute goal from Fabragas...and QPR lose. Not looking good for them.
88th minute goal from Fabragas...and QPR lose. Not looking good for them.
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I'm hoping you're both wrong !AnatolyKasparov wrote:I still can't quite believe Clegg will lose his seat, tbh. His absence today suggests he shares that point of view.
Of course he, and I, could be wrong......
I did actually put money on him losing it