Saturday September 27th & Sunday 28th September 2014

Post by **refitman** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 7:50 pm

PorFavor wrote:Goodnight, everyone.

Night PF.

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 7:51 pm

1. "Recovering" is the word - but I only get annoyed when references to being pissed/stoned are pejorative - it's more than OK to say that the reckless Reckless was pissed when he was......although I'm not sure how one can tell. He is very very weird.

2. In the Welfare and Benefits section, will the old posts be coming back? There were some good links in there - mainly supplied by HindleA - some of my musings might be a bit out of date as things change so fast - but it would be nice to have some of it back.

3. Cameron's new homes for (yes, he said it, twice, on the news) "hard working young people who work hard" will not be subject to the usual building regs in terms of energy etc. and there will be no quotas of "social" homes.

4. I am loving the chaos in the Tory party. It makes me very very happy. More please.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 7:56 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:Gove's lost another MP then.

Odd that someone whose main skill is mouthing off in the media was chosen for Chief Whip, which is all about discretion.

I thought he was going to be doing the job easily and leading the attack on Labour in his spare time.

I think you need to look a certain way if you need to be persuasive. Have a sympathetic sort of face.
Whereas Gove ---

PS. Where's our green Puking Smiley?

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:00 pm

Link to the paisley jimjams storey

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/to ... ts-4335398" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Question
Did he contact him, and is him male or female ? read it twice now and still not sure

Temulkar · Post by **Temulkar** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:00 pm

I think this could be the most enjoyable tory conference of my life.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:02 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Vincent McAviney ‏@VinnyITV 2m
Breaking: Minister Brooks Newmark MP has resigned over a sex scandal to do with social media to be published in tomorrow's Mirror
What a great start to the conference for them

It would be nice to imagine Dave with his head in his hands in despair, but he's too shallow even for that.
Picked up a quick aside during a short piece about the Reckless defection...
Cameron does the same to his MPs as he does to us. Promises them anything to shut them up...

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:05 pm

Normal service is restored over the other place, McKenna and Helm earning their pennies, again.

ephemerid · Post by **ephemerid** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:07 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Link to the paisley jimjams storey

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/to ... ts-4335398" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Question
Did he contact him, and is him male or female ? read it twice now and still not sure

Confusing, isn't it?

The first "activist" they mention is male; but the texts to meet up in the evening were apparently sent to a female.

Whatever - he resigned faster than sugar slides off a shovel, wants his familiy's privacy respected etc. etc.

And his statement mentioned.....LONG TERM ECONOMIC PLAN!!!!!! Unfucking believable.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:08 pm

letsskiptotheleft wrote:It gets worse, not just texts but photos too..

Surely not like that Weiner guy from NY? (Spew emoticon)

One of the few upright members remaining in the Conservative party.

Sorry.

Couldn't resist. I'll get my coat.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:11 pm

ohsocynical wrote:
letsskiptotheleft wrote:It gets worse, not just texts but photos too..

Surely not like that Weiner guy from NY? (Spew emoticon)

One of the few upright members remaining in the Conservative party.

Sorry. Couldn't resist. I'll get my coat.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:12 pm

Create your own UKIP policy

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Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:19 pm

Talking of which, old slime ball Simon Hughes is quiet lately, anyone know what the feeling is around his constituency, still a favourable chance of a Labour gain, I know electoral calculus have it down as one but suspicious of some of their predictions?

Got to be in a lot of trouble on local elections results this year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/councils/E09000028" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Apparently these were the votes in his constituency.

Lab 39.4 (+7.6)
LD 33.6 (-8.5)
Con 11.9 (-6.7)
Grn 7.6
UKIP 6.0

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:19 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Antony Holt ‏@Hasselschmuck · 60 mins
Mark Reckless defects &Brooks Newmark resigns.Dan Hodges will be along soon to tell us how this spells disaster 4 Labour's election chances.

Hodges has been very quiet today. Maybe he's chasing his lost suitcase around rail company lost property offices up north. I do hope so.

I wonder if he wears paisley pyjamas too?

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:23 pm

One for our football lovers - I do understand it, but it might be funnier to you

How to attack Labour leaders

Dear political journalists.
Your job is to criticize Ed Miliband. Of course, this might be because he's doing a bad job. But it's also because you are well-paid and privately educated, and so naturally unsympathetic to most Labour leaders. You will, therefore, want to oppose him whatever he does.
In this regard, you can learn from your colleagues on the sports desk. After years of practice they have perfected the art of condemning Arsene Wenger regardless of facts or logic. Their tricks can be adapted to Ed Miliband, for example:

http://stumblingandmumbling.typepad.com ... aders.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:25 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-28349374" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Councils are empowered to use the Empty Homes Premium to charge home owners 50% extra council tax if they leave properties empty for two or more years.

Yet Freedom of Information requests to all 32 London boroughs discovered that seven councils did not apply the charge to a single property.

You won't be surprised to see the 7 are overwhelmingly Tory:

Kensington and Chelsea, Westminster, Bromley, Havering, Hillingdon, Kingston-upon-Thames and Merton did not tax a single empty propert

Merton changed hands (from NOC to Lab) this year.

Kingston was Lib Dem, gained by Tory.

Amazed to see Hammersmith and Fulham did any- perhaps since the election?

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:30 pm

shirleykay11 tweeted: lydon Crosby as put George Osborne in charged of looking out for deserting tories. @Jamin2g #bbcnews #skynews #tory

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Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:31 pm

Wow, look who's shown up.

John Mann MP ‏@JohnMannMP 13m
Is it not right that any MP exposing themselves to a member of the public should immediately resign from Parliament? I think so.

Deary me. We've no idea what they'd said to each other. Quite possible the reporter showed "hers" first. Even so, it was in private.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:32 pm

Aditya Chakrabortty ‏@chakrabortty 7m
Thatcherism redux: You know it's gone wrong when the party of Cecil Parkinson and Piers Merchant can't even muster a good sex scandal

I suppose he has a point. Sending selfies of your willy?

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:42 pm

George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton 12m
I'll be on @BBCNews just after 9pm discussing today's vintage Tory omnishambles.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:43 pm

Groan Award alert

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ch-deficit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

labour-lead-conservatives-falls-two-points-miliband-conference-speech-deficit

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 8:45 pm

Mort d'Arthur ‏@mortdarthur 14m
Vote Ukip get Tory. Vote Tory get a photo of a penis. Vote LibDem get counselling.

Lots of humour out there today...Thank God for it I say...

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 9:02 pm

John Rentoul ‏@JohnRentoul · 3 mins
Labour soars to 6-pt lead! http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2014/09/ ... s-cameron/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

John Rentoul ‏@JohnRentoul · 4 mins
Labour slumps to 2-pt lead! http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ch-deficit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 9:28 pm

Re the latest 'sex' scandal. Huffington post has an article saying it was a tabloid 'sting'.

No one will argue that it's an underhand thing to do...But if it's true, how stupid of the MP to fall for it. You'd think common sense cause him to be wary especially with the recent nude celebrities hacking scandal.

Edited to add.

Just read. Married. Father of five. Serves him right then!

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 9:36 pm

Team Caroline ‏@teamcaroline_1 · Sep 26
Killing extremists does not kill their ideas. We need political & diplomatic solution not war @CarolineLucas tells PM

I agree 100% with Caroline on this and do fear that bombing with just aggravate the situation, but just don't understand how there can be a diplomatic solution with terrorists. No matter how many time they call themselves a "state" they are not. So how do we start talks with such widely dispersed groups who are killing left right and centre?

This is not a criticism of Caroline (who I really admire) I'm genuinely confused over what the Wests response should be

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 9:52 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
John Rentoul ‏@JohnRentoul 19s
Labour lead of 6: ComRes for @IndyOnSunday & S Mirror
Con 29% -3 Lab 35% +1 Lib D 7% -1 UKIP 19% +1 Green 4% +1
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2014/09/ ... s-cameron/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

And yet for the G/Opinium:

Lead drops to only two points after Labour leader forgot to mention deficit and fails to gain economic credibility, poll findshttp://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/2 ... ch-deficit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 9:53 pm

Nice non-sequitur presented as cause and effect

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 9:54 pm

I've been doing a bit of research into Help to Buy.

There's a very interesting document here

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... -authority" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

that shows you where the 'Help to Buy' loans are going. I sorted the spreadsheet by number of loans and looked at the top postcode areas.

All the top developments are 2 bed and bigger houses. Did we really want the tax payer to help 105 "hard working families" buy houses like this next to Exeter Airport?

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 10:29 pm

So the Tories are recklessless? Look, it needed saying!

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 10:39 pm

LOL not sure the Tories will be delighted with these Twitter trends

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 10:41 pm

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 10:44 pm

Pretty please! will someone please put the picky in here

lol

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Fordington Field ‏@FordingtonField

#skypapers Cameron wonders what to wear at his Conference and asks Sam, "What do you think of this???" -

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 10:48 pm

I hadn't realised that Newmark was chair of 'Women2Win' aiming to get more women elected.

http://www.women2win.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's quite a tactic.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 11:00 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Pretty please! will someone please put the picky in here lol

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Fordington Field ‏@FordingtonField

#skypapers Cameron wonders what to wear at his Conference and asks Sam, "What do you think of this???" -

thank you

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 11:02 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I hadn't realised that Newmark was chair of 'Women2Win' aiming to get more women elected.

http://www.women2win.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's quite a tactic.

Says all about Cameron that he put a man in charge of women2win

Post by **refitman** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 11:07 pm

Lightacandle @lightacandleOTM · 1h

Anyone seen Michael? #hiding #Reckless #Paisleypyjamas pic.twitter.com/lz7i3pPr3l
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TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 11:18 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I hadn't realised that Newmark was chair of 'Women2Win' aiming to get more women elected.

http://www.women2win.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's quite a tactic.
Says all about Cameron that he put a man in charge of women2win

I assumed it was some sort of lottery for women to enter so as to win a rich Tory man (

and hence raise whole families of little Tories).

Seen from that perspective it makes perfect sense.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 11:20 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:I hadn't realised that Newmark was chair of 'Women2Win' aiming to get more women elected.

http://www.women2win.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's quite a tactic.
Says all about Cameron that he put a man in charge of women2win
I assumed it was some sort of lottery for women to enter so as to win a rich Tory man ( and hence raise whole families of little Tories).

Seen from that perspective it makes perfect sense.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sat 27 Sep, 2014 11:37 pm

There are a few gems from Buzzfeed on the theme of children's books.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/12 ... ks#48kwfg7

http://www.buzzfeed.com/patricksmith/to ... ow#48kwfg7

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 12:44 am

AngryAsWell wrote:@Ernst - any thoughts ? will she be good for Labour? (and Tottington)
Cllr Tamoor Tariq ‏@TamoorT · 4 mins
Pleased @TottingtonJude will be the prospective local election candidate for Redvales in May 2015! She'll be ace!

Christ, I'm surprised you're following!

Yes. She's good. She's very, very good, and I'm proud to have talked her into standing this year in Totty - even though she lost. She'll win in Redvales and will be a councillor for a long time. I wish I could say the same! (Revales is solid Labour, Tottington is sadly Tory).

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 4:01 am

Fracking is back in the news, and Saw this link to a short video about the effects in Virginia, Pennsylvania and NY State. It's a fairly thoughtful piece and mentions Europe and the UK. Looked for somewhere to archive it, but there didn't seem to be anywhere to put it.

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TE, iOS had a reasonable autocorrect till a few months ago when I noticed it was turning everything to garbage. Have been wondering ever since whether it really is malicious, or is there another reason it turns recognisable words to mush. I blame Siri, he has a malevolent way about him, has never given me a straight answer and uses my name to pretend he knows me.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 6:56 am

https://s.userzoom.com/p/MSBDMTBTMTY4/2 ... uz_welcome" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In the Guardian:

Welcome!

This survey is your opportunity to help us understand our US readers better. As we are constantly looking to improve our website for our readers, we want to make sure we understand the audience we're designing for.

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 7:07 am

YouGov/Sunday Times

CON 31 (-)
LAB 36 (-1)
LD 6 (-1 and equal lowest ever)
UKIP 15 (+2)
Greens 6 (+1)

So that's a number of 5 and 6 point leads for Labour from the polls in the last 24 hours and one poll from Opinium for the Observer that has a surge of support for the Tories and Labour down to +2... Guess which poll is the third article on their website front page? When all the other post-Conference polls show no change you'd think it would make them think that perhaps their own poll was flawed in some way.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 7:34 am

Morning!

I enjoyed this Tweet

Spacedone · Post by **Spacedone** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:30 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Morning!

I enjoyed this Tweet

There's some first class mockery going on under #Marr this morning

And a number of people pointing out that Cameron just hosted a book launch at Downing Street for Andrew Marr...

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:58 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:https://s.userzoom.com/p/MSBDMTBTMTY4/2 ... uz_welcome

In the Guardian:

Welcome!

This survey is your opportunity to help us understand our US readers better. As we are constantly looking to improve our website for our readers, we want to make sure we understand the audience we're designing for.

I reckon the Guardian should run a series of articles, penned by John Harris on how many Guardian readers feel left behind by the paper they supported for so many years?

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:22 am

There's a meme around that the Mirror's entrapment of Newmark is unjustified. Andrew's just queried it for example.

I'm not so sure. This guy is the founding Chair of Women2Win a group dedicated to getting more female Tory MPs elected. Is it really OK for him to be chatting up female activists on-line? Inviting them for tea at his offices etc.?

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:26 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:There's a meme around that the Mirror's entrapment of Newmark is unjustified. Andrew's just queried it for example.

I'm not so sure. This guy is the founding Chair of Women2Win a group dedicated to getting more female Tory MPs elected. Is it really OK for him to be chatting up female activists on-line? Inviting them for tea at his offices etc.?

I'm wondering if he had a bit of form for this, that's what got the Mirror interested, it's not the kind of you initiate otherwise is it?

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:31 am

Are comments open on Sparrow's Tory Conference blog today, or is my laptop not loading them?

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:36 am

Morning.

Depressing report from the Independent.

'Late diagnosis of HIV blamed on Coalition's health reforms'
Jan Clarke, president of the British Association for Sexual Health and HIV, said the findings were "concerning and would have to be investigated". She observed that there used to be a "seamless service" from testing to treatment, but that health reforms had disrupted this.''

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 60086.html

TheGrimSqueaker · Post by **TheGrimSqueaker** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:36 am

Morning all.

Tim Young ‏@Tim4Clacton · 7m
Farage just said he is going to give Labour a run for their money in Heyton & Middlewood. It helps if you know the name of the constituency!

Nuff said really!